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Sun Mountain Speed E Cart Review

Aug. 11, 2006     By     Comments (114)

I've always been a "walker," but the Speed E Cart has redefined how I view lugging a bag around 18 or more holes of golf.

Sun Mountain Speed E Cart HeroWe've all seen them. The first time we see them, we usually do a double-take. "Is that cart going along all by itself?" we ask. Yes, yes it is. The cart is driving itself, the owner a few paces behind, strolling along the fairway without a care in the world (nor a bag over his shoulders).

At only 28 years of age, I must admit to having mixed feelings over electronic carts. I longed to have the freedom to walk without carrying a bag, yet I didn't know if I could tolerate the "old man" jokes I felt certain would accompany the use of an electronic cart.

After spending some time with a Sun Mountain Speed E Cart, I can assure you that I suffered no such jokes - only curiosity - and I found the pleasure of walking a golf course without the weight of a bag on my back all I thought it would be.

Design and Technology
The Sun Mountain Speed Cart (sans "E") has been one of the most popular push carts since its introduction a few years back. The Speed E Cart builds upon the success of the venerable Speed Cart by adding the "E" functionality - a battery and a motor to drive the cart.

The E Cart is powered by a 24-volt DC motor embedded in the front wheel. The battery (see image below), which rests in the center of the chassis and between the rear legs, provides enough power for 36 holes of golf (though Sun Mountain recommends recharging every 18 holes to lengthen battery life). The noiseless motor also features "cruise control" functionality and soft electric braking that can regulate speed to remain constant, even when going up and down hills. Should the battery somehow fail (or should you forget it at home, as I did once), the E Cart can be pushed almost as easily as the Speed Cart.

Sun Mountain Speed E Cart BatteryThe front wheel can be adjusted with a #6 allen wrench and all wheels feature shock-absorbing pneumatic tires. The rear wheels have aluminum spokes. When collapsed, the Speed E Cart measures only 36½" x 16" x 16".

The Speed E Cart is made from durable metal components, including die-cast aluminum, steel stampings, and aluminum tubing. It weighs 31 pounds (without the battery, which weighs about ten pounds), and comes standard with a battery charger and battery, a grass seed/sand bottle, an umbrella holder, a mesh catch-all, an air pump, and a console with a drink holder, storage area, ball marker, and more.

The Speed E Cart can be braked manually, just like the Speed Cart, and uses flexible, adjustable brackets to hold the bag in position without straps, bungees, or velcro. The Speed E Cart comes with a standard one-year warranty.

Setup
The Speed E Cart is rather small when folded - again, roughly three feet tall and 16 inches square (width and depth). To unfold the Speed E Cart, you unscrew a triangular twist knob near the lower wheel and rotate it 180 degrees into place and tighten the same twist knob. Then you unscrew a top twist knob, and pull the handle up and into place, which also spreads the two rear wheels. The top handle hinge is toothed, so you can lock the handle in at a variety of comfortable heights.

Amazingly, total setup or collapse time is under thirty seconds. A friend of mine has one of the old-school power carts, and he spends at least five minutes assembling and disassembling the cart.

Sun Mountain Speed E Cart Expanded
A fully expanded Speed E Cart. Note the bag brackets above the bottom wheel and the svelte battery.

Once the cart is expanded, it's ready for the battery and the bag. The battery, which measures 12" x 3" x 2" or so, slips into a perfectly sized slot beneath where the bag will rest, between the legs of the cart. A small strap with velcro holds the battery in place.

Your bag sits atop the battery. Unlike most push carts (electronic or otherwise), the Speed E Cart has no straps, velcro, or bungee cords. Instead, a series of flexible plastic brackets - two near the top and two near the bottom - hold the bag firmly in place. The width of these can be adjusted with little thumbscrews, and once they're set, I found that they never needed adjusting unless I switched from one size bag to another.

Sometimes, on particularly clutzy days, it took me a few tries before I could squeeze my stand bag between the bottom clips, but once you get your bag secured to the cart, it stays there. I intentionally toppled the cart several times, and not once did my bag manage to free itself from the cart. The Speed E Cart can hold just about any bag, from the stand bag seen in the pictures here to a full-size cart or staff bag.

Sun Mountain Speed E Cart Collapsed
The Speed E Cart, seen here with a 35" putter, folds up to an incredibly tidy 36" x 16" x 16"! If you're concerned about trunk space, don't be. Two Speed E Carts and two bags fit in most trunks.

Operation and Performance
Once your bag is secured to the cart, you're ready to roll. Without a battery or with the power turned off, the Speed E Cart behaves almost like a regular Speed Cart. Except for the additional weight, it is every bit as easy to push as a Speed Cart, which makes running out of power a far less scary prospect than it may seem at first.

The Speed E Cart's drive mechanism is controlled by a few round buttons on the handle (see image below). A central power button turns the cart on and off, while a "Stop/Go" button instructs the cart to - big surprise - stop and go. Between the Power and Go buttons you'll find speed control buttons, and left of the power button, three pre-defined yardage buttons. Above them all, a series of LEDs inform you of your cart battery's remaining juice.

An example of typical usage goes like this: I'd hit my drive and press the "Go" button to start the cart in motion. As I'd approach my drive, I'd hit the "15" button so the cart would travel 15 yards further and stop. Occasionally, I'd send my cart 30 or 60 yards ahead while I veered off to help a partner look for his ball in the trees. Then I'd hit my next shot and repeat the process. My home course has several holes that parallel each other, so the 15/30/60 buttons came in handy when I'd hit a green, grab my putter and driver, and send the cart to the landing area of the next hole.

Sun Mountain Speed E Cart Controls
The Speed E Cart's controls are easy to use, but an audio confirmation would have been appreciated.

While these pre-defined distance buttons work well (in testing, the 60-yard button averaged 58 yards according to my range finder), I still have a problem with them: the lack of an audio confirmation. Imagine this: you're walking down the fairway after smoking your drive right down the middle. You push the "60" button on your cart to send it to your before you walk into the trees to find a ball for your friend. You look back at your cart and it's still going. And going. And going. You start to wonder if you really pushed the "60" button or if the cart is just going to keep going. You contemplate running after the cart. You take a few quick steps. Finally it stops. Whew!

Sun Mountain could have saved us all a lot of worry by including an audio beep to acknowledge input. My model - an early production model - has no yardage governor, meaning that a runaway cart will keep going until it hits something and topples over or runs out of power (about eight miles away). Currently shipping models stop rolling 200 yards after the last user input, so at least you can only overshoot your target by 140 to 185 yards if you fail to push the 15, 30, or 60 button.

Aside from the fear of a runaway cart, my experiences with the Speed E Cart have all been exceptionally positive. My cart tracked to the left initially, but a #6 allen wrench and a slight adjustment later, and the cart tracked quite well, even on slight sidehill paths.

The Speed E Cart features "cruise control," which basically means that the cart will attempt to travel the same speed up and down hills. In practice, the cart takes a second or two to adjust, but does a good job staying at a constant speed. At rest, the cart uses electronic braking to keep the cart in place. This brake didn't work very well on paved cart paths sloped 10° or more, but I simply used the manual brake in those instances.

Sun Mountain Speed E Cart With Bag
If you don't look closely, you might think this was just a regular old push cart. Sun Mountain has done a tremendous job of making an electronic cart that doesn't have a bulky battery or large motors.

The Speed E Cart has about eight unique speeds, and your preferred speed is remembered between uses. You can adjust the speed using the up and down arrow buttons, and speeds range from glacial (about 1 foot per second) to super speedy - I had to jog lightly to keep up with the cart at its fastest setting.

The wheels, with air-filled rubber tires with a good amount of tread that acted quite nicely as shock absorbers, easily powered through thicker grass. I was occasionally forced to lift the handle gently when driving up a slick grassy hill to provide more traction to the front wheel, but the cart generally needed no assistance. The cart easily handled uphill and sidehill slopes of 30° or more, only tipping a few times… and most of those came not long after I said "hey, let's see if the cart will tip on that mound!" Only once did the cart tip when I wasn't trying to push the limits, and that was because I didn't see a stump sticking out of the ground on the side of a hill.

Unlike a lot of electronic carts, including the Bag Boy Navigator we'll be reviewing soon, the Speed E Cart offers a "creature comforts" console. The console features a flip-up storage compartment suitable for keys, a small digital camera, or your wallet. Bungee cords on top of the compartment hold down your scorecard, and tee holders, a ball holder, and a cup holder sit in front of the compartment along with a molded plastic tool you can use to draw an alignment line on your golf ball. A mesh basket further forward served as the perfect location to carry my Bushnell laser range finder.

Sun Mountain Speed E Cart Handle
Seen here: the umbrella holder on the padded handle, the manual brake lever, the clip for the seed/sand holder, the center console with all its goodies, and the mesh catch-all basket (which is where I kept my range finder).

An included umbrella holder screws into the handle and will keep you and your clubs dry in the event of a light rainstorm. I don't recommend using the umbrella holder in extremely windy conditions, however - the wind may put too much strain on the handle for my comfort. And finally, a shaker bottle for seed/sand divot fill can clip to the side of your Speed E Cart's console.

Finally, a comment on battery life. Sun Mountain recommends that you go only 18 holes between charges, but I've successfully played 36 holes without running low on battery power. The battery is rated for 200 charges, and Sun Mountain recommends it remain plugged in to the charger when you're not playing golf. Replacement batteries sell for $44.99.

Specifications
The Speed E Cart is available in three colors: Black, Orange, and Silver. Though MSRP is $759, you can find the Speed E Cart online for $699. The cart itself weighs 31 pounds, and the cart comes pre-assembled. All you do is charge the battery for 24 hours (and a minimum of 12 hours between uses), pop it in, and you're ready to go. Collapsed, the cart measures 36½" x 16" x 16".

Sun Mountain Speed E Cart Colors
The Speed E Cart is available in black, orange, or silver. I'm partial to the black model I've been testing; it matches my bag.

Like the Speed Cart, the Speed E Cart can be customized with accessories like coolers or a seat. The standard kit includes a tire pump that attaches to the frame, the seed bottle, the umbrella holder, the battery, the charger, and the cart itself with the convenience console and manual brake.

Conclusion
No longer am I envious of those old men with their walk-behind electronic carts. My Speed E Cart is quieter, lighter, smaller, easier to use, and more convenient than their carts. No longer am I lugging 20+ pounds over my back on a six-mile trek through hilly terrain. Instead, I am truly enjoying a walk in the park.

At $699, the Speed E Cart is a bargain for those who want to re-discover the joy of walking during a round of golf but don't want the recurring expense of a caddy or the added expense of a powered cart with a remote control.

Discussion

  1. mediaguru says:

    A friend of mine just picked up one of these and it is pretty awesome.

  2. ira says:

    For the Sun Mountain e cart is it possible to charge the battery in your car from a "cigarette lighter" type plug? My problem is that I drive to the golf course from various locales, and do not have a suitable place at the course/courses to keep the charger/battery.

  3. To be honest, I'm not sure. I imagine it would certainly work if your car has a 120V outlet, as many do these days, or if you have an adapter that gives you such an outlet.

    You should email Sun Mountain.

  4. Dan Wamboldt says:

    I was wondering how it steers around some turns coming from the tee to the fairway?

    thanks

    your review has been of great help

  5. It doesn't "steer" itself, but you can turn the cart pretty easily by one of two methods. If you don't require a sharp turn, you can just turn it like you would a stroller. If you do require a sharp turn, you can push down on the handle a bit and lift the front wheel from the ground, turn, and then set it back down, just like you would a push-cart.

  6. Kam says:

    Can the charge take both 110/220 volts? Thanks.

  7. Ed1 says:

    After reading your review I went out and bought me one of this bad boy , my bday gift for myself. First time I took it out at my home course everyone including the seniors are hawking me like Im playing naked, so I felt a little uneasy, heck my playing buddies are all giving me the "Old Man Golfer jokes". One suggest that I should install a blow horn on mine so that I wont run over some ones toes. (funny lol) Im 33 and works out a whole lot so Im in shape all this guys are in thier mid 40's and 50's they all have a carry bag one even has his cart bag that he carry's (ouuch) So after our first nine holes everyone in my group started getting tired like usual and we usually always stop for a drink after 9, but this time I guess they are kinna trying to prove that they are not more tired than the guy with the motorized cart. We went on and after our back nine all the guys are beating on thier legs, streching calves and as soon as we stoped at the club house admited that having this motorized cart or as I call it my personal caddy . Only thing that I say about this cart is the price , at almost $750 its not for evryone. And the battery for me is good enough for atlest a couple of rounds and a half before it dies down totally drained, but if you get it I suggest the charging every 18 holes to be sure. all in all I must say its a great buy for me, finally being able to walk 18 holes with having the usual sore feet and aching back, oh and lastly I always just made sure to just push the 15 , 30 yards your right about the 60 yard buttons its kinna scary felt like it would not stop , and in the course I played we have a couple of holes that is an island hole and one that has water running parallel on the side (yiiikes) . Thanks for a the review though.

  8. Bob Foster says:

    Hi, I am over in the UK, where this is now available.........I have been coming back to this review time and time again, and finally took the plunge this week and bought one of these.

    I am moving from a PowaKaddy Freeway, so am used to electric carts.........Initial impressions were very good - even if the actual cart itself is very, very heavy compared to the PK. The small battery makes up for this in the total weight.......Easy to set up the first thing you notice is the huge console and handle. You soon get used to it, but the photos just don't do it justice. The battery is also a bit tight to squeeze in, but I think this will loosen with time. It is so easy to set up and fits so much easier in my boot (trunk!)

    On the first tee for the first time was an experience. I play with a group every week, and 11 turned up this week. They just crowded around the trolley. If you're a little shy get something more conventional.

    It performed fantastically. I play on a particularly hilly course, but there were still 3 lights lit after 18 holes. Stabble, quick, convenient, easy to use. I just love the console - drink on hand, spare ball ready (didn't need it today!), wallet and phone safe in the compartment.

    Niggles? Firtsly, for UK conditions in the winter some courses may not like the narrow rear tyres. Are there any bigger ones available? The buttons are hard to hit without looking - some sort of distinction could be made, like the 5 on telephones.

    Overall - and I've had 4 trolleys now- this is the best one I have ever used. Don't worry about your age - just go and get one today.

  9. J. Wood says:

    I've been trying to get one of these, but a local store said that they have temporarily stopped carrying them until Sun Mountain fixed the problem with the battery connections failing. Is there any basis for this?

  10. Bobby Jones says:

    Looks like a fender for the front tire would be nice in the wet/mud to keep the bag from getting covered?

    Any issues in the wet....traction, tire spray, etc.??

    Bobby

  11. Ursula says:

    I just purchase this so called "noiseless" cart and am disappointed to find it's not so quiet afterall. It has a constant rattle that seems to come from the front axle and resonates up the frame to the bag. It's very frustrating to listen to for 18 holes plus... when nearing a neighboring occupied green, I need to shut it off and push so as not to interrupt those on the green. It's annoying for those goifing with you as well.

    I tested 3 different bags on it, it continued to rattle, took it back and test drove the retailer's demo and arrrghhh ....it too rattles!!!

    Anyone hear of this problem?

    Ursula

  12. Bobby Jones says:

    I did purchase the cart, and decided to make a water/mud splash guard to protect the bag/cart.

    I did fashion a water/mud shield that velcros onto the top of the drive wheel bag support. It extends about 4" beyond the pivot to prevent any spray onto the bag or cart. Easily disconnects from the two velcro tabs top and bottom! Also can be left on as it stays out of the way when the wheel pivots during folding. It is made out of heavy duty plastic from a carpet protector and has some small spikes on the top side, which helps hold the bottom of the bag. :grin:

  13. Ted C says:

    I have a PowaKaddy RoboKaddy. I bought it after having the privilege of playing with a caddie. I love pushing buttons to drive my cart. No more lugging around clubs. These things are awesome.

    Who cares about the old man jokes? It is crazy how people stare when you use one of these things.

  14. Patrik Mattle says:

    I bought one of these for my dad who lives in Switzerland. Anyone knows if a step down transformer is all I need to make sure he can charge the battery over there? They use 220 V. If that don't work. Does anyone know if I can just buy a battery/charger that will work in Europe? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

  15. mike drury says:

    I bought one of these in the UK after seeing it (but not trying it) in New Zealand.
    I have to say I am very disappointed.
    The weight is unbelievable (excluding Battery) but the main problem is that the front wheel drive just does not give enough grip. Mine skids on virtually any kind of slope, will barely move up any kind of gravel path, and skews right or left over any side sloping mound. It also cuts out automatically after a couple of minutes (probably a safety feature) so you tend to walk into it as it stops.
    The buttons are a bit fiddly but livable with, particularly good is the distance feature of 15, 30 and 50 yards.
    Give me a Powakaddy any day!!

  16. Keith says:

    I ran across your review of the Sun Mountain E-cart a few weeks ago when I was beginning my search for a cart. Now, I am very new to golf (as of 6/1/07 and I'm 44 years old) but discoverd quickly I wanted to walk the courses for exercise and did not want to lug that heavy bag around. The perfect solution was the e-cart. I just received mine last week and tried it out for the first time last week and man was I impressed. Of course I did get the usual old man jokes but by the 10th hole everyone was so tired the jokes eventually stopped. THe cart perfomed exactly as you discussed in your review and I was also considering the Naviator, but am more than pleased with the Sun Mountain. The cart was fantastic and very easy to set up and use. I could not be happier and thanks for the "spot on" review. Whenever I am considering a golf purchase my first stop will be at Sand Trap for your reviews.

  17. Robert Schreier says:

    The problem with the front wheel concers me. I play at Rockland Lake State Park, Rockland county, NY and this is an extreamly hilly course. It covers the top of a mluntain with steep hills up and down. The cart will not help if it does not get traction... Is there anyone who has some input for me?

    Thank you, Robert

  18. Bob Foster says:

    To help Robert Schreier out - yes, I play on a very hilly course in the UK. It's wet as well. Whilst I wouldn't say the front wheel is the perfect solution, it does work ok. The worst I have to do is pull up a little with one finger on the handle and off she goes. The benefits the trolley gives you in other departments far outways this small weakness. The battery life is superb - 36 holes easily on the hills. The catch all and storage are great, and I would be lost without them now. The battery recharges quickly. It fits in my small boot (trunk for the Americans amongst us!), the self braking downhill works perfectly and the handbrake is useful.

    Hope this helps.

  19. bobby says:

    The problem with the front wheel concers me. I play at Rockland Lake State Park, Rockland county, NY and this is an extreamly hilly course. It covers the top of a mluntain with steep hills up and down. The cart will not help if it does not get traction... Is there anyone who has some input for me?

    Thank you, Robert

    Traction will be a problem on steep uphill. But the remedy is simple. Simply give a gentle lift to the handle which increases traction on front drive wheel. I play on a course with two steep holes and I can handle them easily with a gentle push up on the handle.

  20. Buzz says:

    Can anyone compare this product to the Hill Billy. My wife has one of those and it works pretty darn good. We play a very Hilly course and haven't had a problem yet. The Sun Mountain looks like it has some nice bells & Whistles, but I am wondering if anyone has used both and could compare them?

  21. tim green says:

    Bought one of these in the UK about 18 mths ago.
    After 11 months had to take back to the Retailer (problem with the electrics) to their credit the retailer swapped my cart with a brand new one.
    Unfortunately after 7 months this one now has faulty electrics.
    Has anyone else had the same problems.

    The cart will not switch on, the lights come on but will not stay on. :sad:

  22. Lance says:

    If your lights come on but will not stay on, it may be that the battery is no longer holding a charge. I had two bad batteries before I got one that lasted more than a year (I probably useed it 100+ times in that year). The company replaced the batteries free of charge during the first year, now I have to pay for them!

  23. Bob says:

    :grin: I have used my cart for three months, at least two times a week. It works great! I play one course that has steep hills, at least 35 degrees: we would leave our Sun Mountain push carts a the bottom of a hill on one hole and carry a few clubs up the hill and pick up the carts on the way down the next hole. The E cart went up the steep hills just fine.
    The cart is a bit heavy to lift into the car but I am 68 and have no trouble with it. I have a small space in the car, a compartment for my T-tops that my speed cart just fit in; I was concerned that the E cart would not fit but it dropped right in. I have to lift the cart fairly high to get it in over the lip but it's not too heavy to handle.
    The only concern I have is battery availability throughout the life of the cart as it seems the only source is Sun Mountain.
    I definetly feel much fresher at the end of the day. I think I feel better with E cart than when riding a motor cart. I guess walking is better then climbing in out of motor cart, at least it seems to me.
    The cart seems very sturdy and well designed and manufactured. I can't find a thing not to like.

  24. Tosh says:

    I have had mine for 15 months and the only things I do not like are going up hills when it is wet and the battery. Mine died after 12 1/2 months and it took me 3 weeks to find and receive a replacement. The article says that a replacement battery is $44.99, but I could not find one for less than $60. Anyone have any idea where I could get one for less than $50? No local retailer carries one either, which made getting the replacement so time consuming.

  25. Bobby C says:

    You can get a battery from Sun Mountain: $50.

    http://www.sunmountain.com/default.php?cPath=3184_3091_3098

  26. Ross H says:

    I live in Australia and decided a cart that I could push manually and had power assist when required was a fantastic option. I had ordered a 2008 speed e cart from a US online retailer but unfortunately sun mountain are no longer supplying retailers with the 2008 speed e cart(out of production). Apparently they are developing a new version for release in 2009. Does anyone have any info/news/rumours RE: the 2008 and 2009 speed e carts? There are still some sites selling the 2008 model but Im wondering if I should wait and see what the 2009 model has to offer.

  27. Bob says:

    I heard the same rumor around Christmas time 07 (I got my cart for Christmas) so I emailed Sun Mountain tech support.
    They said they could not get frequency approval from the government for their new cart and that the design was on hold indefinitly. That may have changed. However, I have used mine for five months at least twice a week and I don't know how they could change it to make it better. Maybe a remote contro or something but it is fine the way it is. It has bullet proof construction and the controls are more than adequate. I think any change would only add cost for bells and whistles or a reduction in the quality. I would not hesitate to get the current model.

  28. Ross H says:

    Thanks Bob
    I think I'll go ahead and get the 2008 model. A new model will obviously be more expensive and if it has a remote control feature then the cost will be way more than I want to spend based upon other remote control buggies. Reading the review above and the various responses it seems that they are as good as you say. Makes you wonder why Sun Mountain would cease production, maybe they simply havent sold as well as anticipated.

  29. Mark H says:

    i was getting a ride up a hill and the cart turned to fast and my Sun Mountain Speed E Cart flipped over and i can't get it to work and i can't find anyplace to fix it.

    I need help in Mpls. MN. Thanks.

  30. tim green says:

    RE:
    Bought one of these in the UK about 18 mths ago.
    After 11 months had to take back to the Retailer (problem with the electrics) to their credit the retailer swapped my cart with a brand new one.
    Unfortunately after 7 months this one now has faulty electrics.
    Has anyone else had the same problems.

    The cart will not switch on, the lights come on but will not stay on.

    Had this repaired again! new controller!
    Now three months later after playing in the rain the same problems.

    DO NOT BUY ONE

    Unreliable

  31. jt says:

    I just bought a used e cart. It is pulling to the left. How do I align the front tire? I noticed 2 places for a allen wrench and a place for a screw driver.

  32. Bob says:

    Instructions for adjusting wheel came with the cart when new. You shoulb able to get a manual from Sun Mountain.
    You loosen both allen bolts with a six mm allen wrench. The tracking may then be adjuted by turning the adjustment screw. If you want the cart to run more the the right, MINUTELY turn the screw clockwise. To go more left, turn the screw counterclockwise. Check the tracking and continue to turn the sdjusting screw in small increments until it is properly aligned. Then retighten both allen bolts until they are snug. By the way, when they say "minutely" turn the screw they mean it. Small increments are all that are needed.

  33. ken says:

    mine is 13 months old..the battery does not hold a charge anymore...i have used it only 20 times or so....i am disappointed...in addition, it is NOt easy to push once the battery dies.
    ken

  34. Ross H says:

    Recieved my Speed e cart from the US and couldn't be happier (apart from the missing sand bottle). Its winter here in Brisbane (Australia) at the moment so the need to have a motorised cart isnt as great but I still couldnt help myself. I dont use it (turn it on) on every hole and I find pushing it every bit as easy as my other push cart. I play approx 60-70 rounds a year so I figure even if the battery only lasts that long its less than $1 per round which is good value compared to the alternatives. I'll certainly get a spare battery or two to ensure a few years of push free golf. Almost find myself looking forward to the blistering summer heat to compare the fatigue levels. As Bob mentiuoned above I dont see how they could really improve on this cart, the build quality and design are, in my opinion, excellent.

  35. Mark H says:

    Ken
    I still can't find a place to get mine fixed and I have a new battery would you like to sell yours
    Mark in MN
    hult1299@aol.com

  36. Sally Roberts says:

    I long to have an electric push cart when I play golf. My club has told me NO! Could I ever get an electric adapter to use on the manual push carts they do allow at my course?

  37. Bob D. says:

    As near as I can figure, The E-cart consists of an electric adapter to the manual Sun Mountain push car, more or less. My club will not allow a private electric drive cart unless I pay them the drive cart fee for using my own cart. This is not unusal. I have never heard of a restriction on an electric push cart. Hope that is not a new trend.

  38. Ross H says:

    What Bob D is saying is basically correct, the speed e cart looks and pushes (with the battery removed or turned off) every bit the same as the conventional speed cart. I've had mine for 3 weeks and have absolutely no issues with it. Some minor personal trust issues pushing the 60 yard button and wanting to run after it after your sure its not going to stop but Im sure that will look after itself over time. Cant believe your club wont let you have this electric cart. Nobody at my course (apart from the few I told before bringing it) realised it was an electric cart. Some watched the cart 3-4 feet in front of me moving by itself and still didnt realise!! Maybe they thought I was levitating it along or maybe the rate of dementia at my club is a lot higher than the national average. This cart is the bees knees!!

  39. Philippe T says:

    I bought one of these for my dad who lives in Switzerland. Anyone knows if a step down transformer is all I need to make sure he can charge the battery over there? They use 220 V. If that don't work. Does anyone know if I can just buy a battery/charger that will work in Europe? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

    I live in Switzerland, and Sun Mountain shipped me a European adapter with "swiss" plug. And it works great on 220V no need for a power down

  40. Seattle Sam says:

    For those who think you have a bad battery, check the connections before you buy a new one. I have had two batteries that I thought had failed. In both cases, it turned out to be a broken connection. Pretty simple to fix. Just take the battery out of the cover, remove the tape or wrap and repair the connection. In one case, it required a soldering iron and in the other just pushing two connectors back together. All you need is a knife to cut off the wrap holding the batteries together and some tape to retape it when you are done.

  41. Pat says:

    Very interesting. I am in the market for a golf cart. Sun Mt. isn't sure whe the new models are coming out. Is there any comapreable quality carts on the market. I prefer remote control. I would be interested in purchasing a used E-cart.

  42. PuterPutter says:

    I just bought a used E cart and emailed Sun Mountain about a spare battery. They do not have the batteries and have turned the repairs over to J-Tech.

    Called J-Tech and battery is $79 plus shipping. They did tell me to take battery cover off and see what battery was and then see if I could find them cheaper.

    J-Tech was very easy to talk to.

  43. Brian Cass says:

    :mrgreen:
    I live in Chile and it my intention to buy an E-cart when I am in North America.
    I am concerned about bringing or shipping the cart by air because of the battery. Do you think there will be a problem?
    If so, is this a standard battery that is readily available?
    Also, we 220volts here! Will the charger work with 220volts, or, do I need a stepdown trans.
    regards

  44. Ross H says:

    Brian
    I had a speed e cart shipped to Australia and it arrived all ok packaged very well in a huge cardboard box no problems. Is your battery concern about damage or are there restrictions on shipping over there? We are 220 volts here as well and you will need a step-down transformer to charge the battery. Apparently sun mountain did make a European charger for 220 volts. Have had no issues with my cart at all would recommend to anyone.

  45. PuterPutter says:

    I just bought a used e cart and it was missing the User's Guide.

    Anyone have a spare or copy. I'll cover all costs!

  46. Brian Cass says:

    Dear Ross H:
    Many thanks for your comments
    There appears to be conflicting comments regarding whether or not a 220volt charger is necessary. I see comments that indicate you can charge with a 220 volt supply?
    My real concern was the battery and bringing it by aeroplane with all this terrorist phobia!
    Also, is there a common generic replacement available for battery replacement?

  47. Ross H says:

    Hello Brian
    I spoke directly with a technician from sun mountain and he told me that I would need a step down charger as the sun mountain charger was 100-120 volts AC input. It is a 1.8 amp charger so you will need at least a 500watt step down transformer (amps x volts 440 watts minimum). As far as the shipping with the battery, it was packaged in a separate cardboard box within the main box with the cart, dont know if that makes a difference. Id be surprised if it wasnt allowed, maybe different if it was carry on luggage but it will be packed away with the normal luggage anyway. Best bet is to contact the airlines and ask about restrictions. Dont know about the generic battery, I hope there is as I'll be looking to get a spare.
    Cheers
    Ross H

  48. R Kane says:

    I have used the Speed E Cart for several years, and although the cart is excellent, the battery is not. After about 6 months, it will only hold a charge for less than 18 holes, necessitating carrying a second battery when you play. Now, Sun Mountain does not carry replacement batteries, and they are very difficult to obtain through vendors. Not to mention that replacing the battery adds about $75 per year to your cost.
    Good golfing.
    Bigjet

  49. Seattle Sam says:

    Bigjet,

    That is the symptom I had when I thought my battery was failing as well. What you really have are 2 batteries held together with a sleeve or tape. What can happen is that one of the connections can break or come loose if the battery is dropped or if it falls off the cart when it tips over. It is easy to fix. Just take off the cover, remove the sleeve or tape and reconnect. You may or may not meed a solder gun. Good Luck!

  50. starb says:

    The battery is comprised of 2 separate "12 volt" batteries wired together in "series" to provide a "24 volt" battery. These appparently were 7Ah originally. Most battery suppliers have 12v/9Ah versions with the same dimensions. You can still also get the 7Ah version--but prices for the 9Ah are not that much more. The trick is in connecting the two batteries and tightly strapping them together---anybody done it???

  51. Richard Haggart says:

    Just purchased a used Speed e cart and after one round am extremely satisfied with the purchase. Even used, the battery easily operated 18 holes over a moderately hilly course (West Seattle GC for those of you familiar) and showed half a charge remaining. I also determined that replacement batteries are pretty widely available -- if you'e in a big enough city or can get to one, check for big battery wholesalers who carry a wide line of product. The sealed 12 volt/7 amp lead acid batteries in the dimensions that will fit the battery compartment seem to be pretty widely available in the $30 per cell price range.

    One question: on downhills and uphills the cruise/brake control surges just a bit, enough so that you have to adjust your stride minimally rather than smoothly maintaining speed. The downhill isn't really a problem but going up hill having it bog down and then speed up even slightly is annoying. Is that evidence of a dying battery, some other problem in the electrics, or is it 'normal'?

  52. Seattle Sam says:

    Richard,

    From my experience, what you are experiencing is fairly normal. I have played WS often and find that I do have to assist the cart up some of the hills, especially is the grass is wet. However, I have never had the indicator show that low after just 18 holes with a freshly charged battery.

    For those of you who think you may have battery problems, I thought that I had too, but found it was just a bad connection, (see my previous post). The thing that really surprised me was the first battery that I thought had died, had maintained 90+ percent of its charge over the 6 months that it sat in my garage awaiting disposal. By fixing the connection, I now have 2 good batteries. The point being, that in my experiences, the batteries held up very well, but the connections did not.

  53. Thanks for the information. Both carts handled Battle Creek yesterday without complaint or incident and that course has a couple of fairly serious hills. In the rain I imagine I'd want to stick to the cart path as much as possible while going up those bad boys but in general the results were more than satisfactory (the same cannot be said for my swing).

    Both batteries performed better (i.e. had considerably more remaining charge) than they did the first time I took them out. I attribute this to the act that because yesterday was sunny I wasn't hauling the rain gear package and, more significantly, I didn't have the second battery in the bag as a backup in case the first one failed. I'm no electrical engineer but I'm guessing that hauling that extra 11 pounds over hill and dale requires some extra juice. Still, they are used so life expectancy will be uncertain.

    Final note: a local Seattle battery retailer (Allied -- with whom I am not affiliated) quoted me $21 a cell for replacements for the OEM batteries. Just a data point for those of you doing any battery shopping out there.

  54. Mark says:

    I purchased a speed e cart in May and have had nothing but problems with this cart. The main problem is that it will stop working throughout the course of the round. I've changed out the control panel 3 times and tried a new battery as well but have the same problem. The design of the wiring behind the control panel is terrible. It is no wonder there are problems. This cart is also front wheel drive. The problem with that is if you are going up a hill, it doesn't work very well. I would not recommend this cart to anyone. There are much better carts out there on the market.

  55. Jerry says:

    Are there any plans for a remote control instead of just a distance control? I realize that it would be difficult to turn right and left since only one wheel has power, but it could save me from tip overs as it approached lateral hills by stopping and starting remotely.

  56. Allen says:

    I purchased the Speed-e cart in June of this year and have been generally impressed with the quality of the construction, as well as the ease of use. I am disappointed with a couple of the design features, mainly in that (as previous complaints above) the lack of uphill traction which I solved by placing a 10 pound dumbbell weight on the yoke underneath the foot of the golf bag. The electrical connectors cracked after 5 or 6 uses, I stopped by my local auto supply and purchased two sets (four male-female, buck sixty-nine ea.) of "two-pole flat" trailer connectors made by Hopkins (Hoppy) Towing Solutions, paying careful attention to the polarity I used them to replace the defective connectors on the charger, battery and cart, I have used the cart extensively since the surgery and it works fine, the connectors are ugly but idiot-proof.

  57. Bob Foster says:

    The battery is comprised of 2 separate "12 volt" batteries wired together in "series" to provide a "24 volt" battery. These appparently were 7Ah originally. Most battery suppliers have 12v/9Ah versions with the same dimensions. You can still also get the 7Ah version--but prices for the 9Ah are not that much more. The trick is in connecting the two batteries and tightly strapping them together---anybody done it???

    I can confirm this works. I bought 2 12v, 9Ah batteries for £16 each. Used a couple of non slip pads between them and used the straps from the original battery. A little bit of soldering and hey presto. Massive improvement in performance again. Had the old battery for 2.5 years - played about 3 times a week, so as far as I am concerned it's fantastic. The old battery still does 18 holes - just. When new it would do 36, which is what the new one now does. Thinking of keeping the old one and bodging it a bit for a backup, or for the odd 9 holes.

  58. Greg says:

    I've been walking w/ the SM e-cart since May and love it. Reasonable quite although my rattling clubs make more noise then the cart. Adjusting the alignment is touchy. Like brill cream, a little dab will do you. For those who are not 50 yet, I am saying adjust in very small increments.

    I had to replace one battery under warranty because it failed to hold a charge after about 4 months. Sun Mountain made the replacement painless.

    Being in Ohio, my play is will stop soon. Sun Mountain recommends leaving the battery on the charger even though I am not using it. That seems wasteful (energy wise).

    What is everyone else doing about the battery if you are forced to take a weather sabbatical?

  59. Richard Haggart says:

    Greg - I'm leaving my batteries on charge all winter although we come pretty close to year round golf in Seattle (the last week's weather notwithstanding). I've lost batteries in past years by letting them sit for months on end and figure the net energy cost of having it on trickle for a few weeks or a couple of months is less than the energy input necessary to manufacture the replacement batteries. Anybody engineer enough to calculate the approximate electric bill for trickle charging a couple of 7AH/12 volt batteries for a month?

  60. Bill A. says:

    The only complaint I have ever heard about the SunMountain is flats with the pnuematic tires. I just don't see the need for aired up tires on a push cart. I have a BagBoy 3 wheeler, but if I ever buy another cart, it will probably be a SunMountain if they do away with the air tires. Otherwise, I will probably buy the ClicGear.

  61. Judy O says:

    We have an Sun Mountain E Speed cart and I am looking to purchase another one for my husband but it appears there is no new ones to be found to purchase. Anyone know where to go? I currently am bidding on ebay for me but I would rather purchase a new one for 700.00 then a used one for 550. THoughts on a used one for this price vs a new one?

  62. Greg Rich says:

    Richard,

    I too was wondering what the energy consumption was too. I ended up leaving it on. Got my third round in today in Pickerington Ohio and the cart continues to behave flawlessly.

    I love Seattle and look forward to returning. The shell fish were delicious and I never had any trouble finding an exceptional ale.

  63. Betsy H says:

    I am looking for a Sun Mountain Speed E Cart and can't find one anywhere. Anyone have a source for these?

    Thanks,

    Betsy

  64. Bobby C says:

    I am looking for a Sun Mountain Speed E Cart and can't find one anywhere. Anyone have a source for these?

    Thanks,

    Betsy

    They are no longer available for sale new.

    Checking ebay: yes, I see one with about 10 roounds available! (not mine) :smile:

    search ebay: Sun Mountain Speed E cart

  65. Betsy - I shopped around the country on craigslist for my used Speed E cart and when I found something that looked interesting, e-mailed them and asked if they would ship. I ended up getting a very good price (I think) of $150 each on some two year old carts from a resort course that was selling their rental units. I think you may find better prices that way -- the market for these electric golf trolleys isn't very deep in a lot of places so prices may be lower than e-bay. Just a thought.

  66. PNC says:

    I've built my own battery packs and they work fine. Anyone use a different charger than the one supplied by Sun Mountain? Since the batteries are hooked in series for 24 volts, does this require a charger with more than 12 volt capacity to charge or is the typical 12 volt charger sufficient?

  67. Greg says:

    I've built my own battery packs and they work fine. Anyone use a different charger than the one supplied by Sun Mountain? Since the batteries are hooked in series for 24 volts, does this require a charger with more than 12 volt capacity to charge or is the typical 12 volt charger sufficient?

    Details, details!

    Batteries seem to be the weak link with this product although my warranty replacement is about to celebrate it's first birthday after perhaps 80 rounds.

    Would enjoy learning source of battery, how you linked them, how you wrapped them, charged, their life so far and there cost plus any bonus tips.

  68. Battery must be charged with a 24v charger (supplied) although if you use a 4 pin connector and wire the battery differently, you can use a 12 or 24v charger but you must use a 4 pin connector configured to keep the batteries in series for the cart and another configured in parallel for the 12v charger and another wired the same as the cart for the 24v charger this way as I have done I can keep one pair of batteries on my motorcycle charger and another on the supplied 24v charger and they can be interchanged in a second.
    One other great point about the speed-e cart is that when the battery does die on you, the cart is almost as easy to push as a regular push cart due to the fact that there is no gearing (quiet too)

  69. Brian's technical description is good -- to add to it, I bought two vanilla 12 volt sealed lead acid batteries identical in dimension to the original Sun Mountain equipment from a local battery house -- described earlier in this thread -- for about $26 each. It's a standard size/voltage and widely available. I unsoldered the Sun Mountain connectors and soldered them onto the new batteries, used duct tape to secure the two new batteries together (someone smarter than me might be able to re-use that tight rubber sleeve, but duct tape works just fine) and put the entire unsightly mess back in the canvas case. Easy peasy and I'm 15 rounds into the season with new batteries. Using the original Sun Mountain chargers work just fine, too.

  70. Ross Haslam says:

    Did the same as Richard except the guy at the battery shop did all the work for me free of charge. My original batteries didnt come with any rubber sleeve and were held together with duct tape, which was reused on the 2nd lot of batteries. Cost about $90 (Australian) running great since late Nov 2008. No other problems whatsoever with this cart, best thing I've ever bought for golf.

  71. Robert A. Dreyling says:

    I did exactly the same thing as Mr. Haggart (above entry) and it works fine. However, I am disappointed that Sun Mountain would sell this fairly expensive electric cart and then cut their customers loose to fend for themselves for this clearly needed consumable battery. One reason I bought the E cart was the excellent support I got for my regular Speed Cart. I didn't expect that I would have to go hunt around town for batteries and have to become an electrical handy man rig up a replacement. I wonder what other parts for the E cart will be available if needed.

  72. PuterPutter says:

    I got a new battery through warranty through J-Tech. J-Tech is handling all of the warranty repair work on the E Cart. They have been very helpful with my cart.

  73. tim boulant says:

    yes, they are the best...now can you find one for me to buy?? i just got off the phone and the '2009' model will not be available till SEPT..am i wrong or is that 9 months of 'no product' on the market...anyone with one for sale? thanks

  74. Dick says:

    Tim - try searching 'speed e cart' on the nationwide craigslist engine:

    http://www.craigs-list-search.com/

    There seem to have been several up for sale around the country in the last few weeks.

  75. Doug says:

    I think my speed e cart is great but I am on my third battery in two years. The first 7Ah battery lasted only about 20 rounds and the second 9Ah battery lasted only about 50 rounds. I am curious if others are getting more rounds per battery. Also, does anyone know of an available Li Ion or NiMH replacement kit for the stock SLA battery? From what I read they should last for far more charge cycles.

  76. BirdieBob says:

    I am on the battery that came with the cart in March 07. I keep it on the charger when not in use.

  77. Don Wilson says:

    I just broke my storage that hold the cards. Can I replace the whole thing that is attached to the handle? If so what would it cost?

  78. I am on the battery that came with the cart in March 07. I keep it on the charger when not in use.

    Me too. My battery still lasts 36 holes.

  79. Ross Haslam says:

    Doug,
    There are numerous factors that influence battery life.The life expectancy of your battery depends on you. How they’re used, how well they’re maintained, how they’re discharged, how they’re re-charged, and how they are stored all contribute to a batteries life span.

    One important factor to battery life is how deep the battery is cycled each time. If the battery is discharged to 50% everyday it will last twice as long as it would if it’s cycled to 80%. Keep this in mind when you consider a battery’s amp hour rating. The amp hour rating is really cut in half because you don’t want to completely discharge the battery before recharging it. Your better off buying a higher rated battery for more $$ because it will last longer and will be better value for money than a lower rated battery.

    The life expectancy depends on how soon a discharged battery is recharged. The sooner it is recharged the better. Battery life is reduced at higher temperatures - for every 15 degrees F over 77, battery life is cut in half.

    Deep cycle batteries are designed to be discharged down as much as 80% time after time, and have much thicker plates. The major difference between a true deep cycle battery and others is that the plates are SOLID Lead plates - not sponge. This gives less surface area, thus less "instant" power like starting batteries need. Plate thickness (of the Positive plate) matters because of a factor called "positive grid corrosion". The positive (+) plate is what gets eaten away gradually over time, so eventually there is nothing left - it all falls to the bottom as sediment.

    Thicker plates are directly related to longer life, so other things being equal, the battery with the thickest plates will last the longest. Unfortunately, it is often impossible to tell what you are really buying in some of the discount stores or places that specialize in automotive batteries, in general you get what you pay for.

    Im on my 2nd battery and after 7 months it is also on the way out. But I live in Brisbane (Oz) where it is very hot most of the time and the battery sits in my garage (where it is even hotter) on trickle charge all the time its not being used. I play about 75 rounds a year. Battery cost me $90, so 75 rounds for $1.20 per round is not too bad.

  80. Bill Kirkvold says:

    I purchased a Sun Mountain Speed E Cart on eBay in mid 2006 and have had a minimum of problems with it since. I had previously owned a 'motor caddy' which was much heavier (a 1980's design) and often didn't have enough battery power for a full 18 holes, even with a near new battery. I have never had that problem with the 'E'Cart, in fact, even though the previous owner had purchased this unit a year earlier, I was able to go a full 36 holes with it more than once with the original battery. One of the reasons I purchased this unit was the seller's testimony that he "Loved the cart and was only selling it because it did not 'go' with the color of his new golf bag." I have very few criticisms of the 'E' Cart other than the unavailability of repair services. I was upset to learn that S M had outsourced the support of this unit to E-Tech, although the comments about E-Tech on this forum have generally been positive. My concern is that repair of the electrical system on this cart is not possible by the owner and would likely be very difficult for an experienced electronic technician without schematics. This leaves E-Tech as the only repair alternative,which means shipping the whole unit to them for repair. If any one else knows of repair alternatives, please post them.

  81. even though the previous owner had purchased this unit a year earlier

    I'm fairly certain the Speed E Cart wasn't introduced until early 2006, so I doubt the guy you bought it from was using it back in the middle of 2005.

  82. Crayaco says:

    Bill,

    I have dealt with J-Tech and they have been outstanding in their service of the e cart. I did not ship my cart to them. I talked with Frank at J-Tech and he shipped me the parts and I installed them myself fixed the cart.

    The parts are easily changed out. My cart is running fine. I may retire it soon as I will be getting a riding cart.

    Ray

  83. frank says:

    bought a used one and love it! Great product. I will be interested to see the "new" unit coming from Sun Mountain.
    Frank

  84. Jon Krizman says:

    The traction is easily overcome by slightly apply upward pressure on steep incline or areas of reduced traction, great unit, would like to find a cheap back up battery

  85. Allen Maresh says:

    Anyone have the telephone number for J-Tech, I'm not having much luck with batteries and need a replacement.

  86. glr says:

    Allen,

    Had you checked SMs website you would have found...

    All parts for the Speed E Cart including the battery and electronics are available from our service provider, J-Tech. They can be reached at 877-406-9303.

  87. Hubert says:

    Been using my Speed E Cart for 3 years and am still on the orginial battery. Use it mainly for 9 holes at a time on a hilly course and 10 to 20 18 holes per lyear.

    Have had to replace the control panel because of a cracked ribbon connector. I covered the connection to the control panel with auto glass sealant and taped the heat srink wrap supplied with the replacement control. after enstalling I wrapped the wire and handle with cord so there is no play in the connection. Hope this will keep me from spending another $50 for the replacement panel.

  88. R Kane says:

    I have used my Speed E for probably 4 years now, and play too much golf (150+ rounds/year). Usually replace battery every 6 months, replaced electric controller once, but now am having problems with tires wearing out. Just replaced the side tires, and new ones are already showing wear.

    Does anyone have an idea how to align the tires? Over the years I have crashed in to rocks, cart path curbs, and other carts, and probably have twisted the wheels.

    Thanks, guys...

    Bigjet

  89. Glori says:

    I have the battery speed cart and I am not satisfied with the lifespan of the battery Where can I purchase them?

  90. Allen Maresh says:

    I have the battery speed cart and I am not satisfied with the lifespan of the battery Where can I purchase them?

    For a battery replacement try these folks: All parts for the Speed E Cart including the battery and electronics are available from Sun Mountain's service provider, J-Tech. They can be reached at 877-406-9303.

  91. frank says:

    just ordered the "high Capacity" Battery from J tech for $89.00 shipped. I will let everyone know how it works. Has anybody tried this one yet?

  92. Steve says:

    For those of you having difficulty finding batteries, take your cover off the battery and take the "naked" battery to an independent battery store. I went to Rexx Battery. They can make up a copy of the battery to the exact specs of the original. I think I paid about $44 and no shipping. They will need to adapt the connector of the old battery and in corporate it into the new one.

    Steve

  93. Bock says:

    I've had my speed cart for almost four years and it has operated trouble free until I shorted the battery pack while cleaning the terminals last week.

    I removed the cover and sliced off the protective sleeve that covers the connections. I replaced the burned out fuse for 50 cents. It is a 25 amp automotive fuse that can be purchased at any auto supply store. I taped everything back together; recharged the battery and it works fine.

    The local battery dealer has equivelent batterys in stock for about $25 each. When I need a new battery pack I will buy a couple from him, join them together, resolder the fuse holder and connecting cable to the terminals and tape everything together. By the way, be sure that the battery is not connected to any power source when you work on it.

  94. samuel park says:

    I like to have a e cart pricing.

  95. frank says:

    I bought and have used the high capacity battery and had great results! 18 holes and every light stayed lit.

  96. Birdie Bob says:

    Well, after 3 years of use, my OEM bats are dragging, so I am ordering replacements:
    Power-Sonic PS-1290 12V/9AH Sealed Lead Acid Battery

    These are same size: 5.95"L x 2.54"W x 3.70"H
    and are about $25/ea.
    Shipping was $9.

  97. rob collins says:

    IVE BEEN HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH MY BATTERY,I CHARGE IT FOR ABOUT A WEEK AT A TIME AND WHEN I DO USE IT I GET TO 12-13 HOLES AND THE LIFE IN IT IS DEAD..IS THE BATTERY FINISHED AND IF SO HOE MUCH TO BUY A NEW 1

  98. ed says:

    I bought the cart about 3 years ago and the battery was bad, Sun Mountain replaced it no problem but the new battery also did not hold a charge for 18 holes better than the 4 holes on the first battery. I had to get an operation and now have just started playing golf again. I charged the battery for 2 days and got only a few holes out of it. After reading some posts I can't see giving J tech business when I never used the cart to full potential in the first place. I would like to walk again is there any chance on getting a battery if I sent the 2 original bad ones back. Sun Mountain can see that they are in new condition.
    p.s. How can birdie bob order 12 volt batteries when I read that it is a 24 volt motor in the front hub?

  99. Birdie Bob says:

    Ed,

    Check your battery....it is actually two batteries, ie two 12-volt batteries connected together to provide the 24 volts needed by the motor.

  100. frank says:

    ed
    the battery does have to be facing up and out of the cart to take a charge properly. If the battery has not been used in a couple of years I would say that it may need more than two days to charge. I have an extra battery that will work for 20 to 24 holes that i would be willing to sell to you if you would like. You can contact me at supoffset@aol.com
    Thanks and good luck
    frank

  101. frank says:

    call j tech you can get a battery for about 80 shipped

  102. ed says:

    Frank I will try and charge up the one that lasts for 12 holes for a week straight and see if I can get 18+ out of it. I am at the point where, to put more money after bad, just chalk up the whole $560. as a lesson.
    Too bad my friends think the cart is cool (so do I) if the battery technolgy could live up to it. I may have it backwards the cart draw may be too much for the battery size which most likely is the logical explaination. I will try jtech and see if they gaurantee that the one they sell will get at least 27 holes. If not a just about new speed e-cart goes to PA landfill. I have the exact one pictured in this article and I see the looks on peoples faces when I let it go to 60 yds and it stops they just look amazed because I can pinpoint 60 yds pretty acurately and they say if my cart touches the ball I will get 2 strokes penalty and it always stops just before it.

  103. Rick says:

    I have had my Speed E Cart since Feb of 2006 and it has allowed myself who has ms to walk a full 18 holes.I play about 120 rounds a year.I have replaced the battery four times, the speed controller once and also a chip in the battery charger.A store that specializes in batteries can make up a new pack for $35 to $40.Keep your sales slip as a reputable store will replace if the battery fails within 12 months

  104. Bobby_Portland says:

    Bought the E-cart in 2006. Original Battery lasted 3 years for 300 rounds, then started dying after 9 holes. New battery is still good for 18+.

    I had one accident with the E-cart when I was riding in a golf cart and pulling my E-cart on passenger side. The cart hit a curb and rolled over. After the accident the cart lost power. So I sent the push button unit+Control module all attached together to J-Tech. It cost me $4.95 USPS mailing box to ship. I had to cut the wires at the front wheel. J-Tech repaired my electronics and a free diode upgrade. Then I spliced all the wires and the cart is working perfectly! All wires have different colors so it was not difficult to splice them back correctly. The service from J-Teck was exemplary and fast.

  105. Robert A. Dreyling says:

    I have seen J-Tech mentioned several times. Can anyone provide contact information for J-Tech? Such as web site, phone number, address? Thanks.

  106. bigjet7 says:

    I have contacted them in the past at 877 406 9303

  107. Sterling1954 says:

    I've been using my SM Speed-E for 5 years at more than 70 rounds a year and have suffered through the same battery problems as many of you. I found a local battery shop that carries specialty and industrial batteries. They took a look at the SM batteries and went right ot the shelf for a fresh set. All was well the rest of that season but we have to put our clubs up by the first of November. I kept the batteries on the charger for a week and then off for a month etc. until play resumed in late April. Sure enough, the batteries failed after 12-13 holes. I returned to the battery shop and they suggested the same battery in a 12V, 12amp would be better. They have to be taped together and the SM wiring connected in the correct way, they are taller so the nylon bag won't fit anymore but they fit in the battery compatment just fine. I put them together with duct tape and made a carry handle out of duct tape as well. They are slightly heavier than the standard batteries and also a bit taller but still fit under your golf bag with plenty of clearamce. I'm on my second year with the new "super" batteries and no problems getting a full 18 in!

  108. J-Tech
    I understand that j-tech is taking care of the Speed E repairs but when I google J-tech I can't find anything about them as far as Sun Mountain repairs go. Can someone give me some information about them. Where they are located, list of supplies etc.

  109. I bought a used 2006 which is suposed to be a less reliable than those after 2008. Had to rebuild one of two batteries. Interstate Batteries could do a 6 amp for about $65, a 7 amp for about $80 and, I believe, a 10 amp for a considerale increasee. I recharge immediately until the green light is on and then unplug. No problems in 90 some uses.

    Came withd 2 of three tires flat. Easy to fix and used Slime to avoid flats. Am looking for a new front tire since mine is about 1/4 tread. I think the lack of traction/tread is burning battery power.

    Certainly would not throw one of these away but part it out on Craig's list or Ebay....maybe J Tech @ 1877.406.9303

    Conversations with J Tech have been encouraging. Major parts won't cost that much. If the black sheath around the red/black leads tear, use shrink wire cover to replace. For the $280 I paid has been worth it.

  110. Gineg says:

    I have been using a Speed E Cart that I really like for 6 years. As it still goes when I push the 10, 30 or 60 yards, the right functions on the control (faster, slower, go/stop) do not respond any more. I changed the control panel and it did not change anything. I'm thinking of replacing what they call the "drive unit". Does anyone had this problem and, if so, what did you do?
    Thanks

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