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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding rust, here&#039;s a quote from Titleist R&amp;D citing their research and Bob Vokey&#039;s own knowledge:

&lt;span style=&quot;color: #900;&quot;&gt;According to Bob the bottom line is that rust does virtually nothing to affect spin. We have not been able to measure any meaningful change in spin because of the typical surface rust we see on raw wedges. Grooves and player technique is what determines spin. That said if the rust is significant enough to change/reduce the groove area, width and spacing it could start to reduce spin.&lt;/span&gt;

&lt;span style=&quot;color: #900;&quot;&gt;We offer the Oil Can finish (essentially a raw wedge) for two reasons. The first and biggest reason is appearance. Players like the look. Some players feel it has less glare than our Tour Chrome and Black Nickel finishes. The second reason is that some players have the perception that a raw wedge is softer than a plated wedge. We have never been able to measure this and the fact that all Vokey wedges use a soft mild carbon steel 8620 base material, the wedges will feel soft no matter what finish you choose. However perception is a powerful thing and &quot;if a player believes it then so be it&quot;.&lt;/span&gt;

&lt;span style=&quot;color: #900;&quot;&gt;The final point is that grooves on raw wedges wear quicker which is what typically reduces spin, not rust.&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding rust, here's a quote from Titleist R&amp;D citing their research and Bob Vokey's own knowledge:</p>
<p><span style="color: #900;">According to Bob the bottom line is that rust does virtually nothing to affect spin. We have not been able to measure any meaningful change in spin because of the typical surface rust we see on raw wedges. Grooves and player technique is what determines spin. That said if the rust is significant enough to change/reduce the groove area, width and spacing it could start to reduce spin.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #900;">We offer the Oil Can finish (essentially a raw wedge) for two reasons. The first and biggest reason is appearance. Players like the look. Some players feel it has less glare than our Tour Chrome and Black Nickel finishes. The second reason is that some players have the perception that a raw wedge is softer than a plated wedge. We have never been able to measure this and the fact that all Vokey wedges use a soft mild carbon steel 8620 base material, the wedges will feel soft no matter what finish you choose. However perception is a powerful thing and "if a player believes it then so be it".</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #900;">The final point is that grooves on raw wedges wear quicker which is what typically reduces spin, not rust.</span></p>
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		<title>By: buckeyegolfer</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/equipment_odds_and_ends#comment-13507</link>
		<dc:creator>buckeyegolfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 16:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking a video of my swing was scary, but paid huge dividends.  If you watch a lot of golf, or read a lot of tips, you will be able to tell what you are doing wrong.      

I have a macbook with a built-in isight video camera and imovie editor.  I set it up on a chair and record my swing from two angles.  You can play it in slow motion going backward and forward.  

Checking swing plane, spine angles, head level, and impact position is important.  I also date each recording session to chart progress. 

Don&#039;t forget that many still cameras have a video feature on them now that will allow you to put them on the computer as well, but the  quality will not be the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking a video of my swing was scary, but paid huge dividends.  If you watch a lot of golf, or read a lot of tips, you will be able to tell what you are doing wrong.      </p>
<p>I have a macbook with a built-in isight video camera and imovie editor.  I set it up on a chair and record my swing from two angles.  You can play it in slow motion going backward and forward.  </p>
<p>Checking swing plane, spine angles, head level, and impact position is important.  I also date each recording session to chart progress. </p>
<p>Don't forget that many still cameras have a video feature on them now that will allow you to put them on the computer as well, but the  quality will not be the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/equipment_odds_and_ends#comment-13492</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yy, (great handle), I agree with you that the question should be why someone got a particular set of clubs.

I bought my irons and driver some six months back.  At the time I was playing at about 14.6 handicap index.  I think of myself as a bogey golfer.

But I went ahead and bought Taylor Made r7 TP irons.  I went with TP instead of the more forgiving r7 (which I owned previously) to force myself to have to swing better.  These clubs are much less forgiving that the regular r7s and if I swing to hard or don&#039;t focus, its going to shank or go off where I don&#039;t want it to.  

As a result, my handicap index is now 12.6 (I know its not because of my putting). But the first 8 or so rounds were very tough.  Now I swing with a good tempo, keep my head down and insure I follow thru.  Without those three given my swing the r7 TP would almost certainly result in a bad shot.  I&#039;ve gained a bit of distance, but not much of consequence.

So that is my reason.  I also really loved the Mizuno MP 57, but they were much more expensive at the time.  I also got fit for these clubs, every club had to be cut down by half an inch including my driver.  Seems to have really helped me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yy, (great handle), I agree with you that the question should be why someone got a particular set of clubs.</p>
<p>I bought my irons and driver some six months back.  At the time I was playing at about 14.6 handicap index.  I think of myself as a bogey golfer.</p>
<p>But I went ahead and bought Taylor Made r7 TP irons.  I went with TP instead of the more forgiving r7 (which I owned previously) to force myself to have to swing better.  These clubs are much less forgiving that the regular r7s and if I swing to hard or don't focus, its going to shank or go off where I don't want it to.  </p>
<p>As a result, my handicap index is now 12.6 (I know its not because of my putting). But the first 8 or so rounds were very tough.  Now I swing with a good tempo, keep my head down and insure I follow thru.  Without those three given my swing the r7 TP would almost certainly result in a bad shot.  I've gained a bit of distance, but not much of consequence.</p>
<p>So that is my reason.  I also really loved the Mizuno MP 57, but they were much more expensive at the time.  I also got fit for these clubs, every club had to be cut down by half an inch including my driver.  Seems to have really helped me.</p>
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		<title>By: John Keenan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Keenan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question on hybrids. How can you tell which are more iron like versus those that require a sweeping style swing.

I prefer my irons but would enjoy the distance that hybrids can and should give.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question on hybrids. How can you tell which are more iron like versus those that require a sweeping style swing.</p>
<p>I prefer my irons but would enjoy the distance that hybrids can and should give.</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/equipment_odds_and_ends#comment-13448</link>
		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great piece. I agree with most of the statements...

Rust: I carry two Titleist Vokey wedges, 50 &amp; 54 degree, both in oil can finish. They play fantastic and I have never allowed them to rust nor will I. Take the time and clean your sticks, they&#039;re an investment. Take a look at your bag, if you keep the latest gear, you&#039;re talking about thousands of dollars in golf equipment. I don&#039;t know of anything else  that men and women will spend money on in these amounts and then treat as badly. Spot on, clean and care for your clubs and they&#039;ll give you a better result on the course.

Ranges: This is where I disagree the most, financially speaking. Ranges and courses are doing what&#039;s best for their bottom line. They have to have a cheap, durable ball, and it&#039;s not going to respond like your Titleist. Practice your swing, don&#039;t worry about shape, control, height, etc. You&#039;re not going to get that unless you&#039;re a Pro, or belong to a pretty exclusive club.

Cameras: Couldn&#039;t agree more! Get your swing on camera, it will be the most humbling and educational thing you ever do for your game. You really want to see why Pros hit the 6 iron 200 yards, watch your swing, compare, and you&#039;ll see.

Hybrids: Most folks I know, they help, they help a lot. Know your game and your swing. Get fitted.

Balls: Get fitted for those too, and stick with one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great piece. I agree with most of the statements...</p>
<p>Rust: I carry two Titleist Vokey wedges, 50 &amp; 54 degree, both in oil can finish. They play fantastic and I have never allowed them to rust nor will I. Take the time and clean your sticks, they're an investment. Take a look at your bag, if you keep the latest gear, you're talking about thousands of dollars in golf equipment. I don't know of anything else  that men and women will spend money on in these amounts and then treat as badly. Spot on, clean and care for your clubs and they'll give you a better result on the course.</p>
<p>Ranges: This is where I disagree the most, financially speaking. Ranges and courses are doing what's best for their bottom line. They have to have a cheap, durable ball, and it's not going to respond like your Titleist. Practice your swing, don't worry about shape, control, height, etc. You're not going to get that unless you're a Pro, or belong to a pretty exclusive club.</p>
<p>Cameras: Couldn't agree more! Get your swing on camera, it will be the most humbling and educational thing you ever do for your game. You really want to see why Pros hit the 6 iron 200 yards, watch your swing, compare, and you'll see.</p>
<p>Hybrids: Most folks I know, they help, they help a lot. Know your game and your swing. Get fitted.</p>
<p>Balls: Get fitted for those too, and stick with one.</p>
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		<title>By: RichF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mats: agreed with the above.
Apart from maybe, 20 balls max just to warm-up before a round, I&#039;ve completely stopped using the synthetic mats of the driving range for actual practice and like Erik, I&#039;ll take around 20-30 Titleist NXT Tours onto the course when it&#039;s not busy (in my case, there&#039;s an additional 9-hole course with Par3s/4s/5s) and I&#039;ll spend an hour or more hitting 5 balls-per-lie from varying ranges: off the tee, from 180 yards, 150 yards and 100-50 yards.
The cost of a basket of 100 range-balls is margainally less than it would for me to pay for a round on the 9-hole anyway.

Furthermore, driving-ranges just seem to be clogged-up with complete lunkheads showing off in fron of their girlfriends/wives by smashing ball after ball with the driver (or not, as the case generally tends to be).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mats: agreed with the above.<br />
Apart from maybe, 20 balls max just to warm-up before a round, I've completely stopped using the synthetic mats of the driving range for actual practice and like Erik, I'll take around 20-30 Titleist NXT Tours onto the course when it's not busy (in my case, there's an additional 9-hole course with Par3s/4s/5s) and I'll spend an hour or more hitting 5 balls-per-lie from varying ranges: off the tee, from 180 yards, 150 yards and 100-50 yards.<br />
The cost of a basket of 100 range-balls is margainally less than it would for me to pay for a round on the 9-hole anyway.</p>
<p>Furthermore, driving-ranges just seem to be clogged-up with complete lunkheads showing off in fron of their girlfriends/wives by smashing ball after ball with the driver (or not, as the case generally tends to be).</p>
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		<title>By: golfzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>golfzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;The One-Ball Rule&quot;

I typically use mid-range balls for practice rounds, but stick with Pro V1s when playing for blood. I don&#039;t think it makes a whole lot of difference which reasonably good ball you use when competing except for consistent expectations, especially for putting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: "The One-Ball Rule"</p>
<p>I typically use mid-range balls for practice rounds, but stick with Pro V1s when playing for blood. I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference which reasonably good ball you use when competing except for consistent expectations, especially for putting.</p>
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		<title>By: yy</title>
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		<dc:creator>yy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;... &quot;What _______ is best for me?&quot; will be answered by people telling you to get the clubs they have in their bags....&quot;

Totally agree with that.  I have stopped asking play partners and friends what they hit.  Instead I will ask why they hit them.  Of course I generally ignore answers like &quot;straight and long&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"... "What _______ is best for me?" will be answered by people telling you to get the clubs they have in their bags...."</p>
<p>Totally agree with that.  I have stopped asking play partners and friends what they hit.  Instead I will ask why they hit them.  Of course I generally ignore answers like "straight and long".</p>
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		<title>By: lefty</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/equipment_odds_and_ends#comment-13437</link>
		<dc:creator>lefty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You started me off about mats, just be mentioning them.
If ever there was an inventin designed to destroy a golf swing it&#039;s the synthetic mat.  And in the absence of grass to hit off, I will do something else rather than hit irons of a mat. They in no way replicate a natural surface or how a club behaves when it hits one to the point where what seems like an OK shot off a mat would be a complete duff off grass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You started me off about mats, just be mentioning them.<br />
If ever there was an inventin designed to destroy a golf swing it's the synthetic mat.  And in the absence of grass to hit off, I will do something else rather than hit irons of a mat. They in no way replicate a natural surface or how a club behaves when it hits one to the point where what seems like an OK shot off a mat would be a complete duff off grass.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides investment in lessons, my Sony Camcorder was the best investment I&#039;ve made over the last year. I totally agree that often what you think you&#039;re doing and what you&#039;re really doing are two different things. Taping your swing can unveil so many attributes of your swing. It was the coolest/scariest thing I&#039;ve ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides investment in lessons, my Sony Camcorder was the best investment I've made over the last year. I totally agree that often what you think you're doing and what you're really doing are two different things. Taping your swing can unveil so many attributes of your swing. It was the coolest/scariest thing I've ever seen.</p>
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