Comments on: TaylorMade Launches Tour Burner Driver, Irons, and More http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more Golf News, Reviews, and Commentary Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:22:24 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Andrew http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17943 Andrew Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:32:18 +0000 http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17943 Just played my Tour Burner 10.5 for the first time last Friday. For the record, I've never owned/used one of the "new design type" driver (big face, forgiving) and have always been pensive about hitting off the tee with a driver. No more. After Friday, really, for the first time, I look into whipping it off the tee. The club was really comfortable and sure, I lost a few balls - including one that just sliced high and way far out of sight.. - but I'm really looking forward to gaining yardage from the tee I was always holding back on for fear of not getting the sweet spot. Summary.. I like it ;) Just played my Tour Burner 10.5 for the first time last Friday.

For the record, I've never owned/used one of the "new design type" driver (big face, forgiving) and have always been pensive about hitting off the tee with a driver.

No more. After Friday, really, for the first time, I look into whipping it off the tee.

The club was really comfortable and sure, I lost a few balls - including one that just sliced high and way far out of sight.. - but I'm really looking forward to gaining yardage from the tee I was always holding back on for fear of not getting the sweet spot.

Summary.. I like it ;)

]]> By: Donovan http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17934 Donovan Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:33:18 +0000 http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17934 Have been playing the tb irons for 2 monthes, a huge upgrade from my big bertha irons. love the workability just ordered the r7 cgb limited to try and replace my superquad. will be hard to do though it holds a special place in my bag.i guess if you are looking at the back of every ones irons your not driving the ball far enough. donovan Thornton 8 handicap Have been playing the tb irons for 2 monthes, a huge upgrade from my big bertha irons. love the workability just ordered the r7 cgb limited to try and replace my superquad. will be hard to do though it holds a special place in my bag.i guess if you are looking at the back of every ones irons your not driving the ball far enough. donovan Thornton 8 handicap

]]> By: Andrew http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17820 Andrew Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:27:50 +0000 http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17820 TM Pro- From a professional designer- I'm guessing you're not the moderator here, so I'll go ahead and suggest that uglande can say anything he wants. A commentary on design is absolutely valid, and more so considering he's not discussing performance. I think they look like a 1980s high school art class all collaborated (and failed) on a "graphic design marketing" assignment. However, that failure would not be expressed, and, instead, everyone just said how proud they are and hung it in the glass case in the hallway. Context has a lot to do with perception. There's no NASCAR logo to be seen. It's just a bad design. BTW, just bought the Tour Burner 10.5 w/a stiff shaft and took it to the range today. Loving it. TM Pro-

From a professional designer-

I'm guessing you're not the moderator here, so I'll go ahead and suggest that uglande can say anything he wants. A commentary on design is absolutely valid, and more so considering he's not discussing performance.

I think they look like a 1980s high school art class all collaborated (and failed) on a "graphic design marketing" assignment. However, that failure would not be expressed, and, instead, everyone just said how proud they are and hung it in the glass case in the hallway.

Context has a lot to do with perception. There's no NASCAR logo to be seen. It's just a bad design.

BTW, just bought the Tour Burner 10.5 w/a stiff shaft and took it to the range today. Loving it.

]]> By: mickeyD http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17545 mickeyD Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:21:41 +0000 http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17545 I am a high but rapidly improving high handicapper who has played with many Taylor Made iron sets made since 1998. Burner LCG's, Firesole, 320's. Series 300 wedges, Forged 300's, and now Tour Burner. I put together a set of TB's one at a time 4-PW for $288 new. Played with the 4,6,PW first w R flex graphite, decided I liked them and proceeded to get the rest in various shafts. Now am putting on TB 105 S flex on all. What is clear to me as a 25 Hdcp is that like the 300's, 320's, and 300 wedges, one must hit these correctly to get results, but not as perfectly as the early models due to the weighting and the ICT (inverted cone technology). The titanium face can make some hits (high on face) seem very harsh, but results are there. If you look at the Burner LCG's as compared to the new TB's, one sees a great similarity in design in terms of the extreme heel/toe weighting. The LGC's with the midsize face (but larger than the TB's) are really easy to hit, and with the soft steel used at the time provide great feel. I get about 5-10 more yards out of the TB's as compared to the LCG's mostly due I think to the lighter shaft of the TB's (TT 105 v.s. DG R300). The Firesoles have the same cavity design as the 300 series irons and wedges and are my favorite clubs to use. They have the same face profile as the LCG's so are forgiving but are special due to the use of various metals through the set. Firesoles were the first irons ever to use this concept and each club is optimized to acheive its particular function. In my opinion the firesoles are the best irons TM ever made. But what I am really saying is that once the cavity back iron was developed, iron technology really has not changed that much. I enjoy the new TB's and even at my level they perform as advertised (workable, trajectory, feel, distance). I look forward to improving my swing and using the TB's as my regular irons and really take advantage of their construction. But for comfort and reliability I will go back to my Firesole's and LCG's when the swing isn't quite there. I am a high but rapidly improving high handicapper who has played with many Taylor Made iron sets made since 1998. Burner LCG's, Firesole, 320's. Series 300 wedges, Forged 300's, and now Tour Burner. I put together a set of TB's one at a time 4-PW for $288 new. Played with the 4,6,PW first w R flex graphite, decided I liked them and proceeded to get the rest in various shafts. Now am putting on TB 105 S flex on all. What is clear to me as a 25 Hdcp is that like the 300's, 320's, and 300 wedges, one must hit these correctly to get results, but not as perfectly as the early models due to the weighting and the ICT (inverted cone technology). The titanium face can make some hits (high on face) seem very harsh, but results are there. If you look at the Burner LCG's as compared to the new TB's, one sees a great similarity in design in terms of the extreme heel/toe weighting. The LGC's with the midsize face (but larger than the TB's) are really easy to hit, and with the soft steel used at the time provide great feel. I get about 5-10 more yards out of the TB's as compared to the LCG's mostly due I think to the lighter shaft of the TB's (TT 105 v.s. DG R300). The Firesoles have the same cavity design as the 300 series irons and wedges and are my favorite clubs to use. They have the same face profile as the LCG's so are forgiving but are special due to the use of various metals through the set. Firesoles were the first irons ever to use this concept and each club is optimized to acheive its particular function. In my opinion the firesoles are the best irons TM ever made. But what I am really saying is that once the cavity back iron was developed, iron technology really has not changed that much. I enjoy the new TB's and even at my level they perform as advertised (workable, trajectory, feel, distance). I look forward to improving my swing and using the TB's as my regular irons and really take advantage of their construction. But for comfort and reliability I will go back to my Firesole's and LCG's when the swing isn't quite there.

]]> By: david p http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17334 david p Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:42:03 +0000 http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17334 I bought the Taylormade Tour Burner Driver as a father's day gift. I had a coupon and it was on clearance so I got a really good deal. I'm returning to the game after a 30+ year layoff. The first club I purchased was the TB driver. Next will be a putter. I have the 10.5/Reg/65 LH model. It is light and a breeze to swing. I have been able to hit the fairways consistently. I have also been able to outdrive my son a couple of times. Very pleased! Thanks Taylormade for a great club. Worth the investment. I bought the Taylormade Tour Burner Driver as a father's day gift. I had a coupon and it was on clearance so I got a really good deal.

I'm returning to the game after a 30+ year layoff. The first club I purchased was the TB driver. Next will be a putter.

I have the 10.5/Reg/65 LH model. It is light and a breeze to swing. I have been able to hit the fairways consistently. I have also been able to outdrive my son a couple of times.

Very pleased! Thanks Taylormade for a great club. Worth the investment.

]]> By: TM Pro http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17132 TM Pro Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:41:22 +0000 http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-17132 [quote comment="9891"]Those new Taylor irons are easily the ugliest things the company has ever produced, and arguably the cheesiest design I have ever seen from a major manufacterer. They look like they were made by Fisher-Price, not Taylor Made. I have played nothing but Taylor woods since I was in high school 20 years ago, so I am a fan of the company. But good lord. You could get vertigo staring at the backs of these things for too long. Yeesh![/quote] Looks don't really mean anything. If you had played these clubs rather than just look at them you wouldn't care what they look like. They are fantastic. So go be ignorant and make stupid comments somewhere else. uglande said on March 12, 2008:

Those new Taylor irons are easily the ugliest things the company has ever produced, and arguably the cheesiest design I have ever seen from a major manufacterer. They look like they were made by Fisher-Price, not Taylor Made. I have played nothing but Taylor woods since I was in high school 20 years ago, so I am a fan of the company. But good lord. You could get vertigo staring at the backs of these things for too long.

Yeesh!

Looks don't really mean anything. If you had played these clubs rather than just look at them you wouldn't care what they look like. They are fantastic. So go be ignorant and make stupid comments somewhere else.

]]> By: Matthew http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-16022 Matthew Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:14:09 +0000 http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-16022 [quote comment="15025"]I just bought a Taylor Made Tour Bruner driver. It is super light, and the impact feels nice. However, I always had stiff shafts and I found this one partulary stiff.... it is just me or it is more stiff than usual ???[/quote] No, Brian. The Tour Burner shafts in the mid flex range are a normal stiff, but Taylormade tipped the end of the shaft to make it stiffer. So, to answer your question, the middle of the shaft is stiff while the tip is closer to an x-stiff. My advice, go ahead and stay with the stiff flex. You'll get used to the tip. Bryan said on February 16, 2009:

I just bought a Taylor Made Tour Bruner driver. It is super light, and the impact feels nice. However, I always had stiff shafts and I found this one partulary stiff.... it is just me or it is more stiff than usual ???

No, Brian. The Tour Burner shafts in the mid flex range are a normal stiff, but Taylormade tipped the end of the shaft to make it stiffer. So, to answer your question, the middle of the shaft is stiff while the tip is closer to an x-stiff. My advice, go ahead and stay with the stiff flex. You'll get used to the tip.

]]> By: James http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-15559 James Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:06:39 +0000 http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-15559 I just purchased the Tour Burner Irons.......WOW......Straight......high and on the greens. I just purchased the Tour Burner Irons.......WOW......Straight......high and on the greens.

]]> By: Bryan http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-15025 Bryan Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:43:19 +0000 http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-15025 I just bought a Taylor Made Tour Bruner driver. It is super light, and the impact feels nice. However, I always had stiff shafts and I found this one partulary stiff.... it is just me or it is more stiff than usual ??? I just bought a Taylor Made Tour Bruner driver. It is super light, and the impact feels nice. However, I always had stiff shafts and I found this one partulary stiff.... it is just me or it is more stiff than usual ???

]]> By: Jim http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-12352 Jim Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:31:44 +0000 http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_drop/taylormade_launches_tour_burner_driver_irons_more#comment-12352 Traded in Cleveland Hi Bore XL for newer XLS model, which turned out to be a big mistake. Desperately needed a replacement. Decided to buy the Tour Burner 9.5* with stiff shaft to go with the already owned R7 TP irons. Couldn't be happier with the results. First ball hit with a smooth and relaxed swing carried 250-260 yds with the head still in original plastic and taped. Consistency was there after several tries. Took off the wrapping and tape, ball carried 270-280 yds with good roll out. Couldn't believe the consistency in terms of trajectory and shot dispersion. So far, the best driver ever owned. Thank you Taylor Made! Traded in Cleveland Hi Bore XL for newer XLS model, which turned out to be a big mistake. Desperately needed a replacement. Decided to buy the Tour Burner 9.5* with stiff shaft to go with the already owned R7 TP irons. Couldn't be happier with the results. First ball hit with a smooth and relaxed swing carried 250-260 yds with the head still in original plastic and taped. Consistency was there after several tries. Took off the wrapping and tape, ball carried 270-280 yds with good roll out. Couldn't believe the consistency in terms of trajectory and shot dispersion. So far, the best driver ever owned. Thank you Taylor Made!

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