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	<title>Comments on: Adams Idea Pro Forged Irons Review</title>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/adams_idea_pro_forged_irons_review#comment-14245</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 20:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well...I work part time at Nevada Bobs and get to try a lot of clubs..I used old Hogan apex blades for years but found trouble when I lost club head speed due to age..Tried various clubs and had settled on Ping I3+ blades which I was really liking.  Then I tried some demo idea pro stiff black gold irons in the hitting net at the store and loved the feel, and was hitting them pure. I took them out to the course and was totally amazed..straighter and 1/2 club longer than my pings.  What really impressed me was the distance control !! I really know my distances now(30 yrs later) and with my new bushnell range finder am having a lot of birdie chances, which takes the pressure off my putting. I&#039;m 61 yrs old, not a pup and yet the stiff shafts really feel right for me, hitting a soft draw...no push or fade..but can work the ball well..I also bought the gap, sand and lob wedge...as good as cleveland and titelist . i&#039;m playing with a lot of confidence and maintaing my handicap (11) even though my driver gives me fits :)  In closing..a very forgiving and playable forged iron..and beautiful !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well...I work part time at Nevada Bobs and get to try a lot of clubs..I used old Hogan apex blades for years but found trouble when I lost club head speed due to age..Tried various clubs and had settled on Ping I3+ blades which I was really liking.  Then I tried some demo idea pro stiff black gold irons in the hitting net at the store and loved the feel, and was hitting them pure. I took them out to the course and was totally amazed..straighter and 1/2 club longer than my pings.  What really impressed me was the distance control !! I really know my distances now(30 yrs later) and with my new bushnell range finder am having a lot of birdie chances, which takes the pressure off my putting. I'm 61 yrs old, not a pup and yet the stiff shafts really feel right for me, hitting a soft draw...no push or fade..but can work the ball well..I also bought the gap, sand and lob wedge...as good as cleveland and titelist . i'm playing with a lot of confidence and maintaing my handicap (11) even though my driver gives me fits <img src='http://thesandtrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   In closing..a very forgiving and playable forged iron..and beautiful !!</p>
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		<title>By: Adams Idea Pro Gold Irons and Hybrids &#124; The Sand Trap</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/adams_idea_pro_forged_irons_review#comment-14052</link>
		<dc:creator>Adams Idea Pro Gold Irons and Hybrids &#124; The Sand Trap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The company has positioned the Idea Pro Gold irons to complement, not necessarily replace, the Idea Pros - the company&#039;s previous entry into the &quot;better players&quot; market. The Pro Golds offer a tad more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The company has positioned the Idea Pro Gold irons to complement, not necessarily replace, the Idea Pros - the company's previous entry into the "better players" market. The Pro Golds offer a tad more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ping</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/adams_idea_pro_forged_irons_review#comment-13258</link>
		<dc:creator>Ping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to review if your club has the black insert and a deeper inset cavity it is the tritech 4.  They do not all say TriTEch forged.  The main determination is if you have a more of an inset cavity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to review if your club has the black insert and a deeper inset cavity it is the tritech 4.  They do not all say TriTEch forged.  The main determination is if you have a more of an inset cavity.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/adams_idea_pro_forged_irons_review#comment-11738</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im 14 years old and a 12 handicap, these irons are so smooth. i love them! they give you all the feedback you need and when you hit them in the sweet spot. it feels like you didnt even hit a ball. i went from the old a1 hybrid set to these and it only took me 4 rounds to start hitting them pure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im 14 years old and a 12 handicap, these irons are so smooth. i love them! they give you all the feedback you need and when you hit them in the sweet spot. it feels like you didnt even hit a ball. i went from the old a1 hybrid set to these and it only took me 4 rounds to start hitting them pure.</p>
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		<title>By: Adams Golf Releases Idea Pro Gold Hybrid and Hybrid Irons &#124; The Sand Trap</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/adams_idea_pro_forged_irons_review#comment-11418</link>
		<dc:creator>Adams Golf Releases Idea Pro Gold Hybrid and Hybrid Irons &#124; The Sand Trap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and a 5-PW forged cavity-back irons. The predecessor to this combo set, the Idea Pro combo set reviewed quite favorably so I eagerly anticipate these offerings. They look quite clean and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and a 5-PW forged cavity-back irons. The predecessor to this combo set, the Idea Pro combo set reviewed quite favorably so I eagerly anticipate these offerings. They look quite clean and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: V-man</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/adams_idea_pro_forged_irons_review#comment-11095</link>
		<dc:creator>V-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 21:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

Forgive me for sounding like a physices professor in advance, but I think this is a very little understood concept of a golf ball flight.

Pro spin/trajectory: 
We have heard all about getting fitted for the right launch angle and spin combination on a launch monitor, but few realize that this combination of parameters are most in effect in the second portion of the ball flight. 

What does the &#039;second portion of the flight&#039; mean?

Well....

In the first portion of flight: Every ball takes off the club face with the kinetic energy imparted to it. The sheer force of the impact will project it to some distance of the carry (anywhere from 50-85 % of the total eventual carry), after this the ball runs out of force momentum but it still keeps flying (this is the second portion of the ball flight) further because of sheer aerodynamics (its like the ball still keeps flying on &#039;empty&#039;). Like I said this is when the right amount of spin on a compatible trajectory makes the most difference on how much further the ball will travel. (Ever get the feeling that sometimes you hit the ball with an 8 iron, it travels a reasonable distance, about 130 yards in air, seems to slow down in the air and should drop at 145 but simply refuses to come down  and floats another 15-20 yards..??) 

Professionals (or good amateurs for that matter..) , with their swings get the most out of this second portion of the flight (better the spin/trajectory more the extra float and eventual distance) even though they don&#039;t impart that much initial energy. This is why a swing almost always trumps a hit. 

This region of optimum spin+trajectory is a very small window and good players either understand this or sometimes just hit the lucky number by trial and error and stick with it.

Anyway, I was referring to this phenomenon and the right shaft flex depending on your swing will help you optimize the spin+trajectory the best. Don&#039;t know the exact physics, but sometimes a stiffer flex shaft can be better. You just have to try it for yourself. I don&#039;t believe today&#039;s launch monitors are advanced enough to catch all the nuances of your ball flight even though they are a good start to finding the right flex. 

Chao..gotta go pickup my daughter..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Forgive me for sounding like a physices professor in advance, but I think this is a very little understood concept of a golf ball flight.</p>
<p>Pro spin/trajectory:<br />
We have heard all about getting fitted for the right launch angle and spin combination on a launch monitor, but few realize that this combination of parameters are most in effect in the second portion of the ball flight. </p>
<p>What does the 'second portion of the flight' mean?</p>
<p>Well....</p>
<p>In the first portion of flight: Every ball takes off the club face with the kinetic energy imparted to it. The sheer force of the impact will project it to some distance of the carry (anywhere from 50-85 % of the total eventual carry), after this the ball runs out of force momentum but it still keeps flying (this is the second portion of the ball flight) further because of sheer aerodynamics (its like the ball still keeps flying on 'empty'). Like I said this is when the right amount of spin on a compatible trajectory makes the most difference on how much further the ball will travel. (Ever get the feeling that sometimes you hit the ball with an 8 iron, it travels a reasonable distance, about 130 yards in air, seems to slow down in the air and should drop at 145 but simply refuses to come down  and floats another 15-20 yards..??) </p>
<p>Professionals (or good amateurs for that matter..) , with their swings get the most out of this second portion of the flight (better the spin/trajectory more the extra float and eventual distance) even though they don't impart that much initial energy. This is why a swing almost always trumps a hit. </p>
<p>This region of optimum spin+trajectory is a very small window and good players either understand this or sometimes just hit the lucky number by trial and error and stick with it.</p>
<p>Anyway, I was referring to this phenomenon and the right shaft flex depending on your swing will help you optimize the spin+trajectory the best. Don't know the exact physics, but sometimes a stiffer flex shaft can be better. You just have to try it for yourself. I don't believe today's launch monitors are advanced enough to catch all the nuances of your ball flight even though they are a good start to finding the right flex. </p>
<p>Chao..gotta go pickup my daughter..</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vman

what did you mean by

&quot;I think they are getting more in the &#039;pro spin/trajectory&#039; window with this equipment.&quot; ??

dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vman</p>
<p>what did you mean by</p>
<p>"I think they are getting more in the 'pro spin/trajectory' window with this equipment." ??</p>
<p>dan</p>
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		<title>By: V-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>V-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 12:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha..ha...well, I don&#039;t think Freddie was carrying out some surrogate cross dressing fantasy as much as the fact that it was the only long stick available apparently (from what I remember reading about it, he did&#039;nt have his clubs on him...)...

Funny though. Keep grooving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha..ha...well, I don't think Freddie was carrying out some surrogate cross dressing fantasy as much as the fact that it was the only long stick available apparently (from what I remember reading about it, he did'nt have his clubs on him...)...</p>
<p>Funny though. Keep grooving.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 23:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>v-man,

I do try to groove it.   :wink: 

And I believe I have hit the ball on every conceivable part of the clubface, and some parts that are not part of the clubface at all..  

That said, I didn&#039;t know freddie had a feminine side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>v-man,</p>
<p>I do try to groove it.   <img src='http://thesandtrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>And I believe I have hit the ball on every conceivable part of the clubface, and some parts that are not part of the clubface at all..  </p>
<p>That said, I didn't know freddie had a feminine side.</p>
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		<title>By: V-man</title>
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		<dc:creator>V-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 19:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

I believe you are right in assuming that the extra length of the shaft makes up for the little extra stiffness. Not loosing distance on stiffer and heavier shaft is a sign of a fairly true swinger. You are probably pretty good at staying down through impact too. I hope you are rubbing off on me through this blog. Gimme some-a-dat anyday!

But you most probably also know that punishment for bad shots is steeper (bet you have never been punished for hitting it thin have you?!!... :lol: )

Anyway, here&#039;s a little fun shaft flex trivia; 

Freddie Couples once borrowed his friend&#039;s wife&#039;s ladies flex driver for a casual round and loved it so much that he actually kept it and played it for years (don&#039;t know if he actually played it on tour).....go figure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>I believe you are right in assuming that the extra length of the shaft makes up for the little extra stiffness. Not loosing distance on stiffer and heavier shaft is a sign of a fairly true swinger. You are probably pretty good at staying down through impact too. I hope you are rubbing off on me through this blog. Gimme some-a-dat anyday!</p>
<p>But you most probably also know that punishment for bad shots is steeper (bet you have never been punished for hitting it thin have you?!!... <img src='http://thesandtrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Anyway, here's a little fun shaft flex trivia; </p>
<p>Freddie Couples once borrowed his friend's wife's ladies flex driver for a casual round and loved it so much that he actually kept it and played it for years (don't know if he actually played it on tour).....go figure!</p>
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