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		<title>By: tartanjack</title>
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		<dc:creator>tartanjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave... again thanks for being the gracious host. Awesome with the weather reports and course notes.

Tanglewood Championship I think was clearly the best test of golf. While very well maintained, it suffers a bit from its public ownership and heavy play. But it's a course that could host a tournament at any level, and I guess has. It's also a course I would consider "old style" with no houses and a more walker-friendly layout. A couple holes were reminescent of the Bethpage courses.

Greensboro National was a very pretty course, albiet bordered by MacMansions. But I thought the homes nowhere near as obtrusive as Salem Glen. I think from the tips it would give players like Erik, Dave, Rafi and Josh all they could handle. But being modern, it was designed for carts. And I kind of don't like that. It reminds me of many newer, high-end daily fee and semi-private layouts. They're great fun to play, but maybe not amongst the ranks of great courses. Tanglewood Championship may be.

Finally, I think Dave's scratch handicap at Tanglewood Championship means a whole lot more that were he a member at any of the other courses we played.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave... again thanks for being the gracious host. Awesome with the weather reports and course notes.</p>
<p>Tanglewood Championship I think was clearly the best test of golf. While very well maintained, it suffers a bit from its public ownership and heavy play. But it's a course that could host a tournament at any level, and I guess has. It's also a course I would consider "old style" with no houses and a more walker-friendly layout. A couple holes were reminescent of the Bethpage courses.</p>
<p>Greensboro National was a very pretty course, albiet bordered by MacMansions. But I thought the homes nowhere near as obtrusive as Salem Glen. I think from the tips it would give players like Erik, Dave, Rafi and Josh all they could handle. But being modern, it was designed for carts. And I kind of don't like that. It reminds me of many newer, high-end daily fee and semi-private layouts. They're great fun to play, but maybe not amongst the ranks of great courses. Tanglewood Championship may be.</p>
<p>Finally, I think Dave's scratch handicap at Tanglewood Championship means a whole lot more that were he a member at any of the other courses we played.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald MacKenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald MacKenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's Rafi talking about "a 4-iron would be fine"? He doesn't even carry a 4-iron ... anymore. Somewhere in Myrtle Beach, it is rusting in a drainage pond. :-)

Dave: Looks like I owe you $10. Did you redo the numbers on the overall bet, since we're not tied anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What's Rafi talking about "a 4-iron would be fine"? He doesn't even carry a 4-iron ... anymore. Somewhere in Myrtle Beach, it is rusting in a drainage pond. <img src='http://thesandtrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Dave: Looks like I owe you $10. Did you redo the numbers on the overall bet, since we're not tied anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: josh premuda</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh premuda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both (TC and GN) have their pluses and minuses. I think I'd rather play Tanglewood everyday and play GN off and on. I'm just jealous that Dave lives there. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both (TC and GN) have their pluses and minuses. I think I'd rather play Tanglewood everyday and play GN off and on. I'm just jealous that Dave lives there. <img src='http://thesandtrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David "DBake" Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>David "DBake" Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great report Dave, sounds like you all had a great time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great report Dave, sounds like you all had a great time.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Premuda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Premuda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

You're a great host and thanks for setting up the Newport Cup.  I concur with you that both Tanglewood Championship and Greensboro National were far superior to the other two courses.  In the future, I'd recommend that all five rounds be played at these two courses.

P.S. Both Josh and I were disappointed that we didn't have the opportunity to play a round with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>You're a great host and thanks for setting up the Newport Cup.  I concur with you that both Tanglewood Championship and Greensboro National were far superior to the other two courses.  In the future, I'd recommend that all five rounds be played at these two courses.</p>
<p>P.S. Both Josh and I were disappointed that we didn't have the opportunity to play a round with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Olson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - You are a great host! Can't wait for next year. I think the rankings are spot on. I had my best round at Greensboro National (after some lessons from Jack &#038; Erik) but the housing is a distraction and took away from the course. 

Tanglewood Championship is a great course and deserves the top ranking. I really enjoyed the layout(of course having Dave telling you were to aim and how to play the holes helped out as well). :-) I definately want another shot at this one as I played poorly and want to redeem myself.

Salem Glen is decent and that's about it. Nothing stood out to me (except Josh hitting a drive on 18 that is still in orbit somewhere).

Reynolds was well, tight. I had plenty of practice on punch out shots and that's about the nicest thing to say (it still gets a 5 due to some really interesting holes).

All in all, a great grouping of courses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave - You are a great host! Can't wait for next year. I think the rankings are spot on. I had my best round at Greensboro National (after some lessons from Jack &#038; Erik) but the housing is a distraction and took away from the course. </p>
<p>Tanglewood Championship is a great course and deserves the top ranking. I really enjoyed the layout(of course having Dave telling you were to aim and how to play the holes helped out as well). <img src='http://thesandtrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> I definately want another shot at this one as I played poorly and want to redeem myself.</p>
<p>Salem Glen is decent and that's about it. Nothing stood out to me (except Josh hitting a drive on 18 that is still in orbit somewhere).</p>
<p>Reynolds was well, tight. I had plenty of practice on punch out shots and that's about the nicest thing to say (it still gets a 5 due to some really interesting holes).</p>
<p>All in all, a great grouping of courses.</p>
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		<title>By: Cody Thrasher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cody Thrasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can live with Dave's rankings of the courses, even though I obviously got along with GN better than I did with Tanglewood Championship.  

Overall, Tanglewood was a little better.  It was probably the toughest course I've ever played, and the 101 I shot showed that.  Still, if I would have been striking the ball well, I could have shot in the 80s.  It was tough for me to give a full opinion of it because my mood was less than spectacular.

I actually enjoyed the Reynolds course more than Salem Glen, but once again, it's probably because I played better.  I liked the short yardage and the interesting holes.

I've shot a few rounds in the 70s, but my 81 at Greensboro National was easily the best round of my golfing life.  It was a tough course and narrow in places, but it was still fairly easy to hit driver a lot.

And it's not like you had Tanglewood and GN ranked far apart.  A 9 and an 8 are both pretty darn good.

I'd give Reynolds a 6 as well along with a 6 for Salem Glen.

And you were definitely a great host.  On a sidenote, you should have put the number 3 or 4 on your list for the number of balls I dumped in the water at Tanglewood Championship on par-3s alone. :-\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can live with Dave's rankings of the courses, even though I obviously got along with GN better than I did with Tanglewood Championship.  </p>
<p>Overall, Tanglewood was a little better.  It was probably the toughest course I've ever played, and the 101 I shot showed that.  Still, if I would have been striking the ball well, I could have shot in the 80s.  It was tough for me to give a full opinion of it because my mood was less than spectacular.</p>
<p>I actually enjoyed the Reynolds course more than Salem Glen, but once again, it's probably because I played better.  I liked the short yardage and the interesting holes.</p>
<p>I've shot a few rounds in the 70s, but my 81 at Greensboro National was easily the best round of my golfing life.  It was a tough course and narrow in places, but it was still fairly easy to hit driver a lot.</p>
<p>And it's not like you had Tanglewood and GN ranked far apart.  A 9 and an 8 are both pretty darn good.</p>
<p>I'd give Reynolds a 6 as well along with a 6 for Salem Glen.</p>
<p>And you were definitely a great host.  On a sidenote, you should have put the number 3 or 4 on your list for the number of balls I dumped in the water at Tanglewood Championship on par-3s alone. :-\</p>
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		<title>By: Everardo - Arizona Golf Company</title>
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		<dc:creator>Everardo - Arizona Golf Company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, Dave you are/were a great host. I had a great time in North Carolina and am looking forward to a follow-up trip.

Personally I would rank the courses the same exact way Dave has. I give Tanglewood-Championship the slight nod because there are no houses to cloud the view. Condition wise these were also the best of the weekend. Even if the greens at Salem were in better shape I still would rank it lowest on the list just because I didn't like the layout as much (Although my eagle on 11 gives it some sentimental value)

My two best rounds were at Tanglewood-Championship and Greensboro National. Partly due to playing with Dave and he was the best yardage book I've ever had. ;-) Also those two courses just fit my eye the best and both were a solid challenge and made me think my way around the course. Playing smart seems to be the best approach to my game and these courses do just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Dave you are/were a great host. I had a great time in North Carolina and am looking forward to a follow-up trip.</p>
<p>Personally I would rank the courses the same exact way Dave has. I give Tanglewood-Championship the slight nod because there are no houses to cloud the view. Condition wise these were also the best of the weekend. Even if the greens at Salem were in better shape I still would rank it lowest on the list just because I didn't like the layout as much (Although my eagle on 11 gives it some sentimental value)</p>
<p>My two best rounds were at Tanglewood-Championship and Greensboro National. Partly due to playing with Dave and he was the best yardage book I've ever had. <img src='http://thesandtrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Also those two courses just fit my eye the best and both were a solid challenge and made me think my way around the course. Playing smart seems to be the best approach to my game and these courses do just that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Erik. I like Greensboro National, but think that Tanglewood is a very solid golf course...one of the best public courses in the state. You can't just blast away. It requires a bit of course management and skill around the greens given how slick they can be. I just don't think Greensboro National provides the challenge (you call it player friendly Rafi) that Tanglewood does and isn't as appealing on the eye.

The only complaint I ever hear about Tanglewood is that the bunkers are too thin or firm. The sand is different and you can bounce a wedge off of it easy.

I'm curious to hear what the other Newport Cup contestants have to say...and how they would rank the courses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Erik. I like Greensboro National, but think that Tanglewood is a very solid golf course...one of the best public courses in the state. You can't just blast away. It requires a bit of course management and skill around the greens given how slick they can be. I just don't think Greensboro National provides the challenge (you call it player friendly Rafi) that Tanglewood does and isn't as appealing on the eye.</p>
<p>The only complaint I ever hear about Tanglewood is that the bunkers are too thin or firm. The sand is different and you can bounce a wedge off of it easy.</p>
<p>I'm curious to hear what the other Newport Cup contestants have to say...and how they would rank the courses.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew Rafi would comment there. Greensboro National is, to me, nowhere near the course Tanglewood is. The simple presence of all those houses alone and the lack of ability to hit driver all that often (or even 3-wood off many tees) at GN knocks it down a few notches in my book.

I like the ratings as is, and I think Tanglewood's Championship course is one of the best tests of golf I've ever played.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Rafi would comment there. Greensboro National is, to me, nowhere near the course Tanglewood is. The simple presence of all those houses alone and the lack of ability to hit driver all that often (or even 3-wood off many tees) at GN knocks it down a few notches in my book.</p>
<p>I like the ratings as is, and I think Tanglewood's Championship course is one of the best tests of golf I've ever played.</p>
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