Thanks Erik.

In my heart I agree with you, feel over forgiveness; but I'm at a stage in my life when 1-2 games a week is the very most I can manage and therefore I need the forgiveness.

I look forward to your upcoming review of the R9 TP's.

That Tiger threw the club is the one and ONLY fact that is mentioned throughout this forum. All of the other amusing and irrelevant points (and there are plenty) relating to his upbringing, his drive for perfection, his special staus on the PGA etc etc is nothing but speculation ("hearsay your honour").

I will speculate as well by saying I dont think he threw his club with the intention of it ending up in the gallery, although he was having problems with the driver going left!! Therefore I theorise it was probably an accident much the same as an errant drive hitting someone in the gallery, the only difference being that it was done in a manner that some people find contrary to the spirit of the game.

Hey we all get angry on the course its the nature of the game. If some people find letting that anger out by tossing the odd club then good luck to them, whatever works for the individual. Its hard to look at Tigers record thus far and say that it has hampered his progress.

So as a one off (I dont recall Tiger throwing a club into the gallery before) I think we cut him a bit of slack. If he starts hurling clubs into the crowd as a regular feature of his winning performances then Im figuring the galleries following his group may begin to drop in numbers and the problem will then by taken up by the PGA.

PS. Love the site

"Objection you Honour, Hearsay!!"

It's not hearsay - saw it on TV live, saw the replays. I continue not caring if TW slams his club in the ground. When it leaves his hands and ends up in the gallery, I've got a problem.

As they say, your right to wave your arms about ends at my nose. Or something like that… I'm just suggesting that Tiger's right to throw a temper tantrum ends where the gallery ropes begin.

Ross Haslam said on November 20, 2009:

Not from where I was standing, in fact we were all thrilled just to get a look at his driver. As far as injury risk, I'd much rather get hit by a slow moving driver than a golf ball hurtling through the air from an errant drive.

And I'd much rather avoid injury at the hands of a golfer - any golfer - period.

Did anyone in the gallery complain?? Not from where I was standing, in fact we were all thrilled just to get a look at his driver. As far as injury risk, I'd much rather get hit by a slow moving driver than a golf ball hurtling through the air from an errant drive.

End of story!!

Nice review. I have had the i10's for a little more than two years and have enjoyed them. My question is whether you have hit the i10's and how they compare to the i15's. Do you think they are worth buying the new irons?

Thanks

I note in your review a hesitancy to make direct comparisons versus other brand irons however given you play Titleist AP2's I'd be interested in how you think these compare to the AP2's? (Indeed is that a fair comparison or would you rank the Ping's 'S' lineup against the AP2 line?).

I'm playing TaylorMade R9 TPs currently, actually (for an upcoming review) and the i15s are fairly similar to those. The R9s have a little more feel and a little less forgiveness, and the AP2s are probably a little further in the same direction for both (the most feel of the three with the least forgiveness). They're all very close, though, so it may come down to looks or preferred brands.

"Feel" here is two things, too. The first is the buttery softness (or lack thereof), and the second is "where exactly did I hit that on the face." The PING i15s are incredibly forgiving - perhaps the most forgiving "for good players" clubs I've ever hit - but lack a little of both types of feel found on the other two sets.

My preference is always for feel over forgiveness, but I'm in the minority. I care more about hitting - and feeling - good golf shots than my score at the end of the day.

I note in your review a hesitancy to make direct comparisons versus other brand irons however given you play Titleist AP2's I'd be interested in how you think these compare to the AP2's? (Indeed is that a fair comparison or would you rank the Ping's 'S' lineup against the AP2 line?)

Many thanks.

The only reason Tiger is allowed by the PGA to act like this in our supposed "gentleman's game" is because he brings a boatload of sponsorship money and popularity to the tour. $$. That is the answer. It's a bad lesson for kids to learn, and smacks of all the lame self-empowerment of spoiled star athletes everywhere -- "I'm a star. The rules don't apply to me." And all these apologists running willy-nilly to explain his bad behavior by pointing out his upbringing, and the stress he is under, etcetera, entirely misses the point. Golf is supposed to be different. It's not about bad behavior, and bling, and seeing how far you can push the envelope of acceptable conduct. It's different. And traditionally it has been even more prickly and persnickety than many folks would like, with arcane rules of behavior that people aren't even aware of (see John Daly -- apparently standing around drunk outside a Hooters is a no-no which can subject you to suspension for 6 months).

In golf, you call penalties on yourself. When you don't, you get fined or suspended by the Commissioner. Tiger, however, gets a bye from everyone, when he should be held to a stricter standard. If he's going to be the role model for kids everywhere -- and that's the rationale behind regulating athlete's behavior, right? -- then he's got to live up to the role, no matter how hard it is. He gets the fame, he gets the money, he gets all the upside, so he has to take the downside of all that as well. If lack of privacy means he has to be better than everyone else, that's rough, but that's how it works. That's what he signed up for. At least they have ropes holding back the crowds now, and don't let photogs take pictures during their swings, and a whole host of other helpful things the tour greats of yore did without. Really, I hate to say it, because I like Tiger, but he should be calling a penalty on himself here, not trying to come up with excuses. Just stop the tantrums. Just Say No, right?

Previous Idea hybrid/iron sets in the line were 'forged' irons. Do you know if the A7's are a forged iron?

The A7's are a cast club.