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	<title>Comments on: Cleveland CG12 Zip Wedges Review</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EarnR</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/cleveland_cg12_zip_wedges_review#comment-13711</link>
		<dc:creator>EarnR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bough the 56 Gun Metal, normal bounce last spring. I call the club - surgical, it is like throwing darts at the pin. I have a great feel and confidence with this iron.  From 100 yards in I am all over the pin. The ball stops or spins back a few inches, which I intend so I can get aggressive on the ball.  You really have to have soft greens to spin this ball back a good distance. I'm going to buy a 52 and then a 60 Vokey for those hard fall greens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bough the 56 Gun Metal, normal bounce last spring. I call the club - surgical, it is like throwing darts at the pin. I have a great feel and confidence with this iron.  From 100 yards in I am all over the pin. The ball stops or spins back a few inches, which I intend so I can get aggressive on the ball.  You really have to have soft greens to spin this ball back a good distance. I'm going to buy a 52 and then a 60 Vokey for those hard fall greens.</p>
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		<title>By: BobH</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/cleveland_cg12_zip_wedges_review#comment-13283</link>
		<dc:creator>BobH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My course in New Hampshire has greens that act like landing the ball on a pool table... hard and fast.

I finally broke down and got two of these wedges, 56 and 52 and can actually get the ball to hold on the green.  Being able to hit a short pitch to within ten feet and get the ball to stop has given me a huge boost of confidence.  It removes the angst of missing greens.  My ability to get up and down from within 50-yds has gone from 10% to 40%, and from the fringe to 20-yds out, gone from 40% to 70%.

My regular playing partner and good friend, after seeing me put yet another 20yd pitch shot to within three feet said "Will you STOP doing that!"

I attribute it to these wedges, not to any skill.  I'm hitting the same shots as before, but now it's like throwing darts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My course in New Hampshire has greens that act like landing the ball on a pool table... hard and fast.</p>
<p>I finally broke down and got two of these wedges, 56 and 52 and can actually get the ball to hold on the green.  Being able to hit a short pitch to within ten feet and get the ball to stop has given me a huge boost of confidence.  It removes the angst of missing greens.  My ability to get up and down from within 50-yds has gone from 10% to 40%, and from the fringe to 20-yds out, gone from 40% to 70%.</p>
<p>My regular playing partner and good friend, after seeing me put yet another 20yd pitch shot to within three feet said "Will you STOP doing that!"</p>
<p>I attribute it to these wedges, not to any skill.  I'm hitting the same shots as before, but now it's like throwing darts!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/cleveland_cg12_zip_wedges_review#comment-13260</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have been great for me and spin a great deal with a full swing or a pinch by a green. However I have had a full season and my 56 has lots of wear. I just saw an add in the back of a golf magazine for a groove sharpener, groovesharpener.com. It costs 19.95 plus shipping, just ordered one to see if you can touch up grooves on wedges. 46,52,56,60</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have been great for me and spin a great deal with a full swing or a pinch by a green. However I have had a full season and my 56 has lots of wear. I just saw an add in the back of a golf magazine for a groove sharpener, groovesharpener.com. It costs 19.95 plus shipping, just ordered one to see if you can touch up grooves on wedges. 46,52,56,60</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/cleveland_cg12_zip_wedges_review#comment-13256</link>
		<dc:creator>MB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 02:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to totally disagree with this review, although I find Erik on the money most of the time.  I have played Vokey's, Mizuno MP Raw and Cleveland wedges.  The CG 12's are a very responsive wedge, with great feel and at the end of the day my feeling is they spin just fine.  I will admit they are new to my bag and I only have 3 rounds under my belt, but these babies are tight.  It really comes down to what fits your eye, so give them a look, I love them.  (I had several balls hit pin high today only to roll back a solid 10-15 yards, they spin fine if you hit down on them with a solid swing).  Final note, my favorite wedge to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to totally disagree with this review, although I find Erik on the money most of the time.  I have played Vokey's, Mizuno MP Raw and Cleveland wedges.  The CG 12's are a very responsive wedge, with great feel and at the end of the day my feeling is they spin just fine.  I will admit they are new to my bag and I only have 3 rounds under my belt, but these babies are tight.  It really comes down to what fits your eye, so give them a look, I love them.  (I had several balls hit pin high today only to roll back a solid 10-15 yards, they spin fine if you hit down on them with a solid swing).  Final note, my favorite wedge to date.</p>
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		<title>By: meat</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/cleveland_cg12_zip_wedges_review#comment-12900</link>
		<dc:creator>meat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the review but despite your claim that they don't spin; well I went out and bought them anyway.  I found that I could easily spin them back most of the time around ten feet.  These results came from Arizona greens in the middle of summer which are very hard.  So in my opinion they spin just fine and although they do somewhat tear into the golf ball, they don't damage it nearly as much as the spin milled wedges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the review but despite your claim that they don't spin; well I went out and bought them anyway.  I found that I could easily spin them back most of the time around ten feet.  These results came from Arizona greens in the middle of summer which are very hard.  So in my opinion they spin just fine and although they do somewhat tear into the golf ball, they don't damage it nearly as much as the spin milled wedges.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more you play these wedges the more you find conditions are what matters. They are good wedges and do put a lot of spin on the ball. Conrolling it is different from course to course. The new high quality courses with state of the art firm greens seem to be the ones you see all the spin back on. That being said you need to be careful with spin you don't need or want. Fairways cut tight and firm greens make for a lot of spin!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more you play these wedges the more you find conditions are what matters. They are good wedges and do put a lot of spin on the ball. Conrolling it is different from course to course. The new high quality courses with state of the art firm greens seem to be the ones you see all the spin back on. That being said you need to be careful with spin you don't need or want. Fairways cut tight and firm greens make for a lot of spin!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yesterday i bought the new cg 12 rtg dsg wedge in 58 degree. i play on pretty soft greens but my first shot spun the ball back 10 feet. i previously had a vokey spin milled oil can with decent grooves, and with the vokeys the ball would run 3 feet every time. very satisfied with the zip grooves. i do agree with the fact that they dont spin very good around the green, but at 75 yards they are deadly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yesterday i bought the new cg 12 rtg dsg wedge in 58 degree. i play on pretty soft greens but my first shot spun the ball back 10 feet. i previously had a vokey spin milled oil can with decent grooves, and with the vokeys the ball would run 3 feet every time. very satisfied with the zip grooves. i do agree with the fact that they dont spin very good around the green, but at 75 yards they are deadly</p>
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		<title>By: Mizuno MP-T Series Wedge Review &#124; The Sand Trap</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/cleveland_cg12_zip_wedges_review#comment-11453</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizuno MP-T Series Wedge Review &#124; The Sand Trap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a relatively simple appearance with all of the necessary information and branding. Unlike, say, the CG12 wedges which felt the need to mention things like "Zip Grooves," the Mizuno wedges don't talk about [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a relatively simple appearance with all of the necessary information and branding. Unlike, say, the CG12 wedges which felt the need to mention things like "Zip Grooves," the Mizuno wedges don't talk about [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GP</title>
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		<dc:creator>GP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the DSG version is an awesome wedge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the DSG version is an awesome wedge.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/cleveland_cg12_zip_wedges_review#comment-10862</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="10846"]The guy who wrote this article is a complete spasctic. You don't want 10 ft backspin, you want the ball to stop where it lands.[/quote]

I'm "the guy," and I'm not sure what a "spasctic" is.

Besides, sometimes there are times when you want backspin. And spin isn't just about getting the ball to come back - it's about getting the ball to sit quickly on less-than-full shots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quote_header"><a href="http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/cleveland_cg12_zip_wedges_review#comment-10846">todd said</a> on May 11, 2008:</p>
<blockquote cite="http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/clubs/cleveland_cg12_zip_wedges_review#comment-10846"><p>
The guy who wrote this article is a complete spasctic. You don't want 10 ft backspin, you want the ball to stop where it lands.</p>
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<p>I'm "the guy," and I'm not sure what a "spasctic" is.</p>
<p>Besides, sometimes there are times when you want backspin. And spin isn't just about getting the ball to come back - it's about getting the ball to sit quickly on less-than-full shots.</p>
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