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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 03:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Craig Hopkins</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/training/david_leadbetter_swing_setter_review#comment-12464</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Hopkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dick and Everyone,

I hope my handicap is 17-18 when I am 85!  Right now I am 47 and my handicap is 15.  In the 26 years I have been playing I have NEVER been below 15.  

I began using the Swing Setter 7 days ago and have not noticed any significant improvement as yet.  I feel it is helping me cock the wrists early on the backswing (a trait common on Leadbetter DVDs) and keep the swing in plane.  I have yet to get an significant improvement in the timing and tempo at impact.  I am confident it will come with more use.

I think the product is very well made and I am happy with the purchase.

Cheers,  Craig</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dick and Everyone,</p>
<p>I hope my handicap is 17-18 when I am 85!  Right now I am 47 and my handicap is 15.  In the 26 years I have been playing I have NEVER been below 15.  </p>
<p>I began using the Swing Setter 7 days ago and have not noticed any significant improvement as yet.  I feel it is helping me cock the wrists early on the backswing (a trait common on Leadbetter DVDs) and keep the swing in plane.  I have yet to get an significant improvement in the timing and tempo at impact.  I am confident it will come with more use.</p>
<p>I think the product is very well made and I am happy with the purchase.</p>
<p>Cheers,  Craig</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Hughes</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/training/david_leadbetter_swing_setter_review#comment-12334</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 13:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have been using the Swing Setter for 3 solid years. It is a daily exercise for me. I am now 85 years old. My handicap is 17-18. I have stopped warmup sessions on the range prior to golf tournaments. If I change a club, etc. I do practice with new material on the range. But my tournament warmups are strictly Swing Setter oriented. I have never had the opportunity to meet David Leadbetter. I have read much of his teaching material and, of course, studied the Swing Setter DVD. I thought that his initial golf writings were too detailed, and step-by-step oriented. Not anymore. His Swing Setter, as far as this one individual is concerned, has revolutionized a golfer's ability to learn the golf swing. Best to all, DH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have been using the Swing Setter for 3 solid years. It is a daily exercise for me. I am now 85 years old. My handicap is 17-18. I have stopped warmup sessions on the range prior to golf tournaments. If I change a club, etc. I do practice with new material on the range. But my tournament warmups are strictly Swing Setter oriented. I have never had the opportunity to meet David Leadbetter. I have read much of his teaching material and, of course, studied the Swing Setter DVD. I thought that his initial golf writings were too detailed, and step-by-step oriented. Not anymore. His Swing Setter, as far as this one individual is concerned, has revolutionized a golfer's ability to learn the golf swing. Best to all, DH</p>
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		<title>By: V-man</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/training/david_leadbetter_swing_setter_review#comment-12137</link>
		<dc:creator>V-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Do you hit the tyre as hard as a normal swing? I am a little apprehensive of hitting it for fear of hurting my wrist. I have always thought of it to be a good drill, since IMHO if a golfing holy grail exists, it exists in the moment of impact.

Nice post. Not many substitutes for a little bit of talent and the sheer volume of experience.

V</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Do you hit the tyre as hard as a normal swing? I am a little apprehensive of hitting it for fear of hurting my wrist. I have always thought of it to be a good drill, since IMHO if a golfing holy grail exists, it exists in the moment of impact.</p>
<p>Nice post. Not many substitutes for a little bit of talent and the sheer volume of experience.</p>
<p>V</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://thesandtrap.com/equipment/training/david_leadbetter_swing_setter_review#comment-11733</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I`m not sure about a beginner giving advice on Golf training aids , nothing personal, but you really haven`t experienced much of the game, especially if shooting in the 90`s consitantly.

I think one has to try different teaching methods to appreciate which works. No doubt the most effective I found is through a Golf Pro, but this was good fortune. I visited a few pro`s, all not worth the money until I found one that new what he was talking about. Pure luck. Some of these guys are good players but couldnt teach a cow to eat grass!

After many years of playing ang getting down to 8, with quite a few 75`s Gross on the card, I can say that there is a place for teaching aids, providing they do more good than harm.

Even so, with my swing and hitting straight most of the time, when I block, I block! No training or teaching will stop the odd bad shot: so timing, arm rotation, release don`t mean anything in those instances!!

However, this article is about training aids.

I found the old method of hitting a tyre works. It helps to return the clubface square and improves the hitting position too.

No doubt this Swingsetter tool is useful as I promotes setting the wrists, releasing through impact and good timing, all highly important for more consitant golf. By the sounds of it, it works. But is it useful if you have those already and some other fault causing problems? This is the problem with training aids.

Just by playing 3 times a week you will get better, without any training or coaching. Mix that with a good training aid, a few lessons and practising your short game will have you in the 80`s no problem.

The key to good scoring is in the short game, trust me. NOT 250 yard drives. Practise your chipping and putting 75% of your total practice time and you will get lower scores!

Dave Pelz Short Game Bible and Putting Bible will reduce your scores if you practice what he teaches. But of course most golfers want 250 yard drives and ignore the short game.

Those who are top players would have been great players anyway. Its natural talent and god given. Dont mistake lots of training and practice will make you good either, for some, they just dont have the capability mentally or physically to play good golf. Thats life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I`m not sure about a beginner giving advice on Golf training aids , nothing personal, but you really haven`t experienced much of the game, especially if shooting in the 90`s consitantly.</p>
<p>I think one has to try different teaching methods to appreciate which works. No doubt the most effective I found is through a Golf Pro, but this was good fortune. I visited a few pro`s, all not worth the money until I found one that new what he was talking about. Pure luck. Some of these guys are good players but couldnt teach a cow to eat grass!</p>
<p>After many years of playing ang getting down to 8, with quite a few 75`s Gross on the card, I can say that there is a place for teaching aids, providing they do more good than harm.</p>
<p>Even so, with my swing and hitting straight most of the time, when I block, I block! No training or teaching will stop the odd bad shot: so timing, arm rotation, release don`t mean anything in those instances!!</p>
<p>However, this article is about training aids.</p>
<p>I found the old method of hitting a tyre works. It helps to return the clubface square and improves the hitting position too.</p>
<p>No doubt this Swingsetter tool is useful as I promotes setting the wrists, releasing through impact and good timing, all highly important for more consitant golf. By the sounds of it, it works. But is it useful if you have those already and some other fault causing problems? This is the problem with training aids.</p>
<p>Just by playing 3 times a week you will get better, without any training or coaching. Mix that with a good training aid, a few lessons and practising your short game will have you in the 80`s no problem.</p>
<p>The key to good scoring is in the short game, trust me. NOT 250 yard drives. Practise your chipping and putting 75% of your total practice time and you will get lower scores!</p>
<p>Dave Pelz Short Game Bible and Putting Bible will reduce your scores if you practice what he teaches. But of course most golfers want 250 yard drives and ignore the short game.</p>
<p>Those who are top players would have been great players anyway. Its natural talent and god given. Dont mistake lots of training and practice will make you good either, for some, they just dont have the capability mentally or physically to play good golf. Thats life!</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about the challenges you're facing.  Have you watched Leadbetter's DVD "From Beginner to Winner"?  It's a great video.  I shot 102, then watched this video 7 times, literally memorizing some of his swing concepts and a week later, shot 93!!  I don't have the Swingsetter, but am considering getting it because I travel quite a bit which makes it hard to practice.  But supposedly, one can use the Swingsetter in a small space.

There's also a chance your 100+ scores are related to pitching, chipping and putting, more than your full swing.  I have not been particularly enamored by Leadbetter's short game tutorials, but it's not because the principles aren't sound.  It's just that I prefer a little more of a "feel" or "fluid" approach to the short game - ala Raymond Floyd or Lee Trevino.  However, Leadbetter's Sand Trap tips are fantastic and in fact, I used them in my last round and got out three times out of three.  One of my playing partners said:  "How do you do that?  Do you hit behind the ball?"  My answer was straight from Leadbetter:  "Open your stance, open the clubface, and then swing along your body line, not the target line ..."  The ball comes out every single time, guaranteed!  It's the best sandtrap tip I've ever heard.  There's so much focus on things like:  "imagine your hitting the shape of a dollar bill" or "hit behind the ball and follow through ..."  Those ideas are important, but Leadbetter's swing thought about the body line vs target line brings the other concepts into greater clarity.  

On the practice range,  hit 40 balls with just your wedge.  1/4 wedge shot, 1/2 wedge shot, 3/4 wedge shot, full wedge shot, then down to "mini-wedge shots".  You can apply your full wedge shot to your full swing too.   And your half wedge shots should apply to your understanding of "impact."  

Do this and I'll bet you break 100.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about the challenges you're facing.  Have you watched Leadbetter's DVD "From Beginner to Winner"?  It's a great video.  I shot 102, then watched this video 7 times, literally memorizing some of his swing concepts and a week later, shot 93!!  I don't have the Swingsetter, but am considering getting it because I travel quite a bit which makes it hard to practice.  But supposedly, one can use the Swingsetter in a small space.</p>
<p>There's also a chance your 100+ scores are related to pitching, chipping and putting, more than your full swing.  I have not been particularly enamored by Leadbetter's short game tutorials, but it's not because the principles aren't sound.  It's just that I prefer a little more of a "feel" or "fluid" approach to the short game - ala Raymond Floyd or Lee Trevino.  However, Leadbetter's Sand Trap tips are fantastic and in fact, I used them in my last round and got out three times out of three.  One of my playing partners said:  "How do you do that?  Do you hit behind the ball?"  My answer was straight from Leadbetter:  "Open your stance, open the clubface, and then swing along your body line, not the target line ..."  The ball comes out every single time, guaranteed!  It's the best sandtrap tip I've ever heard.  There's so much focus on things like:  "imagine your hitting the shape of a dollar bill" or "hit behind the ball and follow through ..."  Those ideas are important, but Leadbetter's swing thought about the body line vs target line brings the other concepts into greater clarity.  </p>
<p>On the practice range,  hit 40 balls with just your wedge.  1/4 wedge shot, 1/2 wedge shot, 3/4 wedge shot, full wedge shot, then down to "mini-wedge shots".  You can apply your full wedge shot to your full swing too.   And your half wedge shots should apply to your understanding of "impact."  </p>
<p>Do this and I'll bet you break 100.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I,M sorry that you are having so much trouble with this device. I can't concur with you. This gadget have brought my game down 10 strokes at the very least.  I use to shoot in the 100,s just like you. After 2 weeks of using the swingsetter and FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS, I have posted so far a 87, 89, 90 and an 88. You might wonder how. I'll tell you: stop doing what hasn't work. I bet my house you are still comming "over the top". Beleve me this: If you don't come from the inside you'll never stop that slice or weak shot. 
You have to drop those hands at the begining of the down swing and approach the ball from the inside. It's just that way just like the law of gravity, you can't defy it. 

Trust me. I've been there. 

Bests,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I,M sorry that you are having so much trouble with this device. I can't concur with you. This gadget have brought my game down 10 strokes at the very least.  I use to shoot in the 100,s just like you. After 2 weeks of using the swingsetter and FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS, I have posted so far a 87, 89, 90 and an 88. You might wonder how. I'll tell you: stop doing what hasn't work. I bet my house you are still comming "over the top". Beleve me this: If you don't come from the inside you'll never stop that slice or weak shot.<br />
You have to drop those hands at the begining of the down swing and approach the ball from the inside. It's just that way just like the law of gravity, you can't defy it. </p>
<p>Trust me. I've been there. </p>
<p>Bests,</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had a swing setter for about 2 years.
Been to the leadbetter acadamy too.
Still shooting in the 100's.
There are ways to make the swing setter click (without doing it properly).

Not happy with my purchase.

Not happy with the instuction.

Just not happy with my game.

Might be flipping the club a little too much.

That's how I make the balls click.

I've seen my wing on the V1 system.
My swing plane sucks !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a swing setter for about 2 years.<br />
Been to the leadbetter acadamy too.<br />
Still shooting in the 100's.<br />
There are ways to make the swing setter click (without doing it properly).</p>
<p>Not happy with my purchase.</p>
<p>Not happy with the instuction.</p>
<p>Just not happy with my game.</p>
<p>Might be flipping the club a little too much.</p>
<p>That's how I make the balls click.</p>
<p>I've seen my wing on the V1 system.<br />
My swing plane sucks !!!</p>
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		<title>By: SCOTT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SCOTT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a 3 handicapp player and live in the Orlando area where the Leadbetter school is located. I have used the setter for one and I went out and shot a 73. One of my best rounds. I had a great teacher in my dad but this thing is the best thing I have ever done for my game. Those having trouble with the bottom click try starting the downswing with your lower body allowing the arms to drop down in the space and click the ball. Good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a 3 handicapp player and live in the Orlando area where the Leadbetter school is located. I have used the setter for one and I went out and shot a 73. One of my best rounds. I had a great teacher in my dad but this thing is the best thing I have ever done for my game. Those having trouble with the bottom click try starting the downswing with your lower body allowing the arms to drop down in the space and click the ball. Good luck</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got mine yesterday.  Is not an easy gadget to maneuver in just a half hour or anything like it.  I read on another thread that it gets easier as you practice through the weeks.  I'm a male with considerable strength and I'm having a hard time at impact snapping the top ball at level 1 and the second one at level 2  :sad: .  But like I read I should get better with practicer.

Question for anyone:  Are both balls suppose to snap EXACTLY AT THE SAME TIME  at impact?  So far, at release I get one to snap and then the other one a few inches (like 10)pass impact.  Any help will be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got mine yesterday.  Is not an easy gadget to maneuver in just a half hour or anything like it.  I read on another thread that it gets easier as you practice through the weeks.  I'm a male with considerable strength and I'm having a hard time at impact snapping the top ball at level 1 and the second one at level 2  <img src='http://thesandtrap.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':sad:' class='wp-smiley' /> .  But like I read I should get better with practicer.</p>
<p>Question for anyone:  Are both balls suppose to snap EXACTLY AT THE SAME TIME  at impact?  So far, at release I get one to snap and then the other one a few inches (like 10)pass impact.  Any help will be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Salman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thanks for the tip. Will give it a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thanks for the tip. Will give it a try.</p>
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