One Plane/Two Plane?

[shakespeare]

So I am reading an old article from May 2005 in Golf Digest (or maybe Golf Magazine - whatever), and I find a lengthy article covering the 1 plane/2 plane. Excellent article. Great pictures. Wonderful explanations. Except, I don't understand a darn thing. I don't get it. Maybe that is why I have never been better than a 7 handicap after 25 years of playing. Anyone got any brilliant ideas?

[iacas]

So I am reading an old article from May 2005 in Golf Digest (or maybe Golf Magazine - whatever), and I find a lengthy article covering the 1 plane/2 plane. Excellent article. Great pictures. Wonderful explanations. Except, I don't understand a darn thing. I don't get it. Maybe that is why I have never been better than a 7 handicap after 25 years of playing. Anyone got any brilliant ideas?
Brilliant ideas about what? They're kinda in that article... I think they did a credible job of explaining it...

[You'reAway]

Instead of trying to describe some technical mumbo jumbo about the two swings just think Colin Montgomerie for the 2 plane swing and Ernie Els for the 1 plane swing. Colin Montgomerie reroutes the club on the way down and Ernie Els swings back and through on the same plane.

[A.J.]

Instead of trying to describe some technical mumbo jumbo about the two swings just think Colin Montgomerie for the 2 plane swing and Ernie Els for the 1 plane swing. Colin Montgomerie reroutes the club on the way down and Ernie Els swings back and through on the same plane.


I've noticed people mentioning Ernie as a one-plane swinger. I don't know about that. Look how steep he is in this video. He's far from being as flat and on-the-shoulder-plane as Hogan at the top. Compare to the Hogan video. You can clearly see Ernie's right shoulder peeking out if you pause the video.

I think the more accurate description would be Hogan one-plane, Watson two-plane.

http://www.golfswing.com/proswings/els.htm
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[muskegman]

I've noticed people mentioning Ernie as a one-plane swinger. I don't know about that. Look how steep he is in this video. He's far from being as flat and on-the-shoulder-plane as Hogan at the top. Compare to the Hogan video. You can clearly see Ernie's right shoulder peeking out if you pause the video.

I think the more accurate description would be Hogan one-plane, Watson two-plane.

http://www.golfswing.com/proswings/els.htm
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Though fairly upright as far as swings go, Ernie appears to me to be a one plane swinger. Flat or upright must also take into account a golfer's stature and Ernie is tall. Naturally that makes his one-plane swing more upright in appearance, but still one-plane in nature.

[allin]

Other than having your swing video taped (I know, I will get around to it, I guess I am afraid it will look so bad I will have to quit due to the embarassment) is there any way to identify which theory your swing is closest to?

[A.J.]

Though fairly upright as far as swings go, Ernie appears to me to be a one plane swinger. Flat or upright must also take into account a golfer's stature and Ernie is tall. Naturally that makes his one-plane swing more upright in appearance, but still one-plane in nature.
I still wonder. If pause him right at the top you can see a steeper angle in the left arm than the shoulder angle. Here is a video of me for comparison. Now, to be certain, I'm not comparing my swing to Ernie's but I do have a pronounced 2-plane swing and I'm a bit too steep right now but not that far off Ernie. (I know, my left arm broke down at the top a bit)

Note: my video is poor quality because it was taken on my phone and Ernie's is a little difficult to stop right when he gets to parallel.

http://www.••••••••••••••••••?v=GfiP3-CAN1M
http://www.golfswing.com/proswings/els.htm