agree with Rustyred. I cringe when I watch an 18 hndcp trying that shot. Most play with GI irons and woods that lets them sweep the ball & hit it anywhere on the clubface. Works fine from 150 off a fluffy lie but from 50 yds in, precise contact while holding the angle is not easy if you've never practiced. Try 5000 balls on the practice green from 30 feet with a 60 degree. Once you get the "feel" for that shot you'll start to get it.