I wish i bought the 825 forged ones. I game the MP 59's now but well i'm not playing as much as i'm used to, so i can use a little more help at the moment. Those 850 forged ones look great to me also.
might just have a hit with them.
If your searching for a good deal you might find the 825 forged ones for a good price now.
If we believe mark crosfield ( mr mizuno ) they hit rather the same.