I agree, before I started trying to calculate my scores for handicap purposes, I would count every single stroke. (shot a 156 last summer, which led me to go get lessons), Now due to ESC, I pick up at 10, so I can calculate my handicap. Although, I have a high handicap anyway. But I did start getting better towards the end of the summer. Shot a 45 on the front 9 at one course, which had me thrilled. So hopefully this year I will get a more respectful handicap.