You may not want to talk about post season play, but it certainly counts for something. I understand the SB ring argument, but he has historically not played well in the playoffs, and that is not a team thing, it's a Peyton thing.
I'm a little biased, but Tom Brady has to be in the conversation.
And seriously, you sound like an uninformed, jaded Patriot hater to bring up the "Belicheat" stuff. Move on, that argument hasn't had any merit in forever.