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carpediem4300

The Classic - what irons?!?!?!?!

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Now dont get me wrong, im not after the exact make,model, specs.....but just a general understanding of what i should be looking for.

I started golf with a £110 full set of wilsons, that after a while I got bored of and started replcaing items, when i replaced my irons i had a serious slice issue with my irons so bought some weight adjustable jack nichlaus irons, plus they were cheap.

I can hit them well enough sometimes, but i have no idea what weights are doing what, ive lsot the tool and the other weights, and i dont think i really need weighted clubs anymore.

Ive looked at various clubs and a hell of alot of reviews and im sorted of decided that i dont want high handicapper clubs, or super improvement clubs, as i plan to practice my balls off and get really good i cant afford to be stepping up a grade in 2-3 years time.

Most of my research has lead me to forged cavity backs like the Titleist 710CB, and the Nike pro forged CB's,.......ive sort of stayed clear from the muscleback section as whilst i think i could hit them, i dont want to fall into the trap of "o0o0o0shiney such and such uses them on tour i must have"

I currently play of 24/25 but practice alot and have a very repeatable swing, and make good progress everytime i play.

Am i hading in the right direction of forged cavity backs? should i not rule of MB's completely?

And the biggest question is how do I decide whats best, get fitted or just swing with them? i find the golf shops round here pressure you towards expensive stuff

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It is your game so buy what you want.  I would go hit everything you can, including SGI irons like the G15's.  You never know what will work best.  There are a lot of single digit handicappers playing the G15's with low launching shafts, so don't rule them out yet. Just remember, that it is not the clubs that will make you better. It is YOU who will make you better.

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for a 24 handicap,sounds like to much club for you right now.look on ebay for something a little more forgiving until u get a little better

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See if you can find a set of X-20s on ebay.  They are great irons and do a good job straddling the line between forgiveness and workability.  They are SGI irons by the numbers, but do not feel that way at address.  Great irons.  Also good to hit for you would be TaylorMade HT RAC, Big Bertha 2004-2008, and Cobra 2007 s9s, which are all SGI irons that allow for alot of ball workability.

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Originally Posted by johnclayton1982

See if you can find a set of X-20s on ebay.  They are great irons and do a good job straddling the line between forgiveness and workability.  They are SGI irons by the numbers, but do not feel that way at address.  Great irons.  Also good to hit for you would be TaylorMade HT RAC, Big Bertha 2004-2008, and Cobra 2007 s9s, which are all SGI irons that allow for alot of ball workability.


If you know what you are doing, you can "work" any irons out there.

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Originally Posted by shades9323

If you know what you are doing, you can "work" any irons out there.



While that's true, there are some irons that are more workable (i.e. easier to slice) than others.

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Take a look at the X20s. The stock shaft is Uniflex, which falls between regular and stiff in flex. It is a mid-torque, mid-kick shaft, so it won't balloon the ball like the standard G10s or Big Berthas of a couple years back.

Added benefit: The clubheads have a satin-nickel finish, and don't show bag wear like chromed heads.

And as shades said, you can work any club if you know how a golf swing works. (Limit: mid-kick shaft could make it somewhat difficult to hit low shots)

I played X20s for two years with goood results; swapped out at Christmas to some X20 Tours shafted in PX 5.0 (Tour version usually comes in stiffo 6.0 shafts)

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I understand the feeling of wanting clubs that you can grow into.  The Titleist that you mentioned are very nice clubs but they aren't the easiest to hit either.  I did a similar thing and go the Titleist 695 CBs which are basically the old version of what you mentioned.  I love them.  If you like Titleist sticks, you could always check out the AP2s... you will be able to grow into those as well but I think you may get better results now as well with them.

Also, the Pings and Callaways mentioned by others are also very good options.  The only bring up the AP2s for two reasons; (1) you mentioned Titleist irons so I get the feeling you like Titleist and (2) I want the AP2s myself.

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If you know what you are doing, you can "work" any irons out there.

Of course that is true.  The point, though, is that some are easier than others.  Theoretically, with the proper swing, you can hit a Dunlop 1988 1 metal down the middle of the fairway 260 yards "if you know what you are doing".  However, it is much easier with, say, a 2011 Burner 2.0.  Thats the point.  Certain clubs are absolutely more workable than others (go hit the X-20s then, for example, the Nike Machspeed Irons).  A better player will always be better than a worse player.  That doesn't mean good equipment can't help the worse player go lower.  The worse player is competing against himself, and there is certainly equipment out there once you get to a certain minimum level that will help.

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As people suggested, try all you can. I can vouch for the Taylormade Burner 2.0's. They are extremely forgiving. I shoot upper 70's to low 80's so I have an occasional mishit by blading it or just catching it on the toe and more often then not it still ends up right around where I was aiming, just doesn't get there pretty...lol. Just like a pair of shoes, what is nice to one person won't be to another so just check out all you can.

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Safest bet-used PINGs.  Eye 2, Zing, Zing 2, i3, G5, etc.  They can all be had for a reasonable price, they are favored by high, mid, and low handicappers, they wear extremely well, and they won't lose any value after you've paid for them.  Only reason I don't still have my Zing 2s was I made the mistake of hitting some Mizuno MX-200s.  Come to think of it, cast my vote for used PINGs or some used Mizuno MX-200s or MX-23s.

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Originally Posted by carpediem4300

Now dont get me wrong, im not after the exact make,model, specs.....but just a general understanding of what i should be looking for.


If you want a set you'll grow into, get one that fits your eye and possibly even your lifestyle. There are PING guys, Titleist guys, Callaway guys, etc, and they all swear by something or other in that manufacturer's lineup. Personally I'm a Cleveland and Mizuno guy. Even though I loooove Cleveland's players lineup, nothing in the GI lineup even remotely appeals to me (some fugly assed crap right there). I love Mizuno MP blades and cavity backs, but their newer MX and JPX whatever stuff leaves me cold. Basically, I just can't believe their players irons are a good choice for a new(ish) golfer.

From a distance and from close up I find most PING and Callaway extremely ugly, but I don't know what people ever saw in Geena Davis either, so whattaya gonna do?!?

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Are you kidding me?!?  Geena Davis in A League of Their Own or Transylvania 6-5000 is untouchable.  Oh well, agree that we should agree to disagree.  Same thing with the Mizuno MP line-I should love them, I love my Mizuno MX-200s, and I'm partial to blades, but I haven't hit a set of MPs yet that held a candle to my MacGregor MT Pros or 1980's Wilson Staff Fluid Feel Blades.  Maybe I should specify the newer MP irons, guy I play with every once in a while has a set of MP14s that are just gorgeous.

Originally Posted by sean_miller

If you want a set you'll grow into, get one that fits your eye and possibly even your lifestyle. There are PING guys, Titleist guys, Callaway guys, etc, and they all swear by something or other in that manufacturer's lineup. Personally I'm a Cleveland and Mizuno guy. Even though I loooove Cleveland's players lineup, nothing in the GI lineup even remotely appeals to me (some fugly assed crap right there). I love Mizuno MP blades and cavity backs, but their newer MX and JPX whatever stuff leaves me cold. Basically, I just can't believe their players irons are a good choice for a new(ish) golfer.

From a distance and from close up I find most PING and Callaway extremely ugly, but I don't know what people ever saw in Geena Davis either, so whattaya gonna do?!?



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Cheers for the replies, glad you understood that i wasnt asking a to indepth a question and really wanted to know the "reason for buying X clubs"

As someone mentioned I am defiantely a "titleist" guy, i love the way they look, but i wont buy them if they are not right, ive been there and done the whole "0o0o0oshiney driver" and bought it cus it looks cool, now im hitting a driver i bought for all the right reasons, and couldnt be happier

Will still keep the titleist clubs in mind, perhaps looking more towards the AP2's though, im not keen on any callaway club except their putters, ive hit my friends callaways and they just feel big and clumbersome, as do the bertha's, but thats just my opinion after swinging them.

will definately check all the clubs out before buying,

How do you guys rate the mizuno Mrange? 63 and up? gorgeuos looking irons but i fear out of my handicap range?

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Originally Posted by max power

Are you kidding me?!?  Geena Davis in A League of Their Own or Transylvania 6-5000 is untouchable.  Oh well, agree that we should agree to disagree.  Same thing with the Mizuno MP line-I should love them, I love my Mizuno MX-200s, and I'm partial to blades, but I haven't hit a set of MPs yet that held a candle to my MacGregor MT Pros or 1980's Wilson Staff Fluid Feel Blades.  Maybe I should specify the newer MP irons, guy I play with every once in a while has a set of MP14s that are just gorgeous.



She's almost as polarizing as the PING Zing irons.

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GET FITTED. What lie and what loft are correct for your body?

Any $20 clubs that fit you are better than any $1000 clubs that do not. If you are taking lessons, have that person give you specs for your new clubs -- lie and length. I recommend you do it static -- without hitting balls but instead based on your measurements. I suggest static measurements because you are working on your swing. Get clubs that fit the swing you want to have. Otherwise, you will make compensations to learn to hit the ball straight with the wrong fitting clubs simply because they fit your swing today instead of the swing you hope to have tomorrow.

Armed with your personal specs, I suggest you get a set of clubs that will help you now and plan to upgrade when your swing improves. Something like the used Callaway Fusions or X-22 line would be perfect. Callaway sells used clubs on their site and they would have the specs for the set you are looking at.

Personally, I'd avoid eBay because of the fakes that are sold there.

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Let me add that I've had nothing but great results buying clubs off ebay.  Anecdotal evidence to be sure, but on multiple occasions I've used ebay to pick up irons/clubs I wanted, often with upgraded shafts and with brand new grips for much, much less than I could find locally.  I've bought clubs from local shops too-if the price is competitive there's no reason not to support the local merchant and build a relationship.  But ebay has been great, just research who you're buying from.

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