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Originally Posted by deasy55

The interviews (the ones he did and the ones he refused) are not the main issues at all really.



What is the main issue?

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Watch the first video, it's his interview after the second round http://www.europeantour.com/videoaudio/video/index.html

Too bad this a**hole is coming back to Europe for The Open...

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I have never understood the popularity of Bubba Watson.

He started off his career as an arrogant, petulant, foolish, negative and whingeing jerk and then puts out a bunch of "awesome" videos, which contrast completely with what you see on the course and suddenly he's an American folk hero.

Bubba Watson is the biggest phony in golf.

I almost vomited a couple of weeks ago when he said he was  "just going to go out and play Bubba golf".

Next time you watch him playing golf - not performing in some cretinous video ("awesome" video) just observe the way he ignores other people and fans on the course and always looks to blame people for his own mistakes. He's an immature pig. And now we have people on this forum blaming ADD and "strange foreign noises" for his selfish and arrogant antics.

But as long as he plays the military, charity and Christian crads, he's got a guaranteed couple of million gullible devotees.

Imagine if this fool was asked to elaborate upon what he though the U.S. military were actually doing.  He just keeps spewing out platitudinous gibberish and people stand back and applaud.

In the race of life, always back self-interest. At least you know it's trying.

 

 

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The courtesy car thing was the biggest disgrace thing was the biggest problem I saw. That's just a no no in Europe. I don't care if he had been told he was getting his own. Imagine how the other golf felt when he heard that Bubba refused to share the car with him. This could have been a young rookie who would have loved the experience of travelling with a star player. I can just imagine Bubba being like a pig and refusing to leave the hotel until he gets his own car.

The clinic thing was pretty bad too. He came over to get the "European Tour experience" and these things are just what golfers are expected to do over here. Contracts or not.

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Originally Posted by makaveli

Watch the first video, it's his interview after the second round http://www.europeantour.com/videoaudio/video/index.html

Too bad this a**hole is coming back to Europe for The Open...




What about that makes him an ahole? He said he was uncomfortable with how thing are done there. Would you return to a situation that would make you uncomfortable?  A situation where he is there to make money.  Maybe it is his honesty and willingness to speak his mind that is the problem?



Originally Posted by deasy55

The courtesy car  thing was the biggest disgrace thing was the biggest problem I saw. That's just a no no in Europe. I don't care if he had been told he was getting his own. Imagine how the other golf felt when he heard that Bubba refused to share the car with him. This could have been a young rookie who would have loved the experience of travelling with a star player. I can just imagine Bubba being like a pig and refusing to leave the hotel until he gets his own car.

The clinic thing was pretty bad too. He came over to get the "European Tour experience" and these things are just what golfers are expected to do over here. Contracts or not.



Since we really don't know if there was a provision in his contract for his own courtesy car, so everything about that is hearsay and basically moot.

This is an overreaction like the Ricky Barnes thread.  The whole story is not known and people are too quick to rush to judgement without knowing the whole situation.

That being said, if there was that stipulation in that contract, you have no problem with the Euro tour breaching said contract?

Was Bubba asked to do a clinic and refused?  I didn't see that information.

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Originally Posted by shades9323

What about that makes him an ahole? He said he was uncomfortable with how thing are done there. Would you return to a situation that would make you uncomfortable?  A situation where he is there to make money.  Maybe it is his honesty and willingness to speak his mind that is the problem?

Since we really don't know if there was a provision in his contract for his own courtesy car, so everything about that is hearsay and basically moot.

This is an overreaction like the Ricky Barnes thread.  The whole story is not known and people are too quick to rush to judgement without knowing the whole situation.

That being said, if there was that stipulation in that contract, you have no problem with the Euro tour breaching said contract?

Was Bubba asked to do a clinic and refused?  I didn't see that information.



It's in the links that you said you had read earlier. EDIT: Sorry nevermind, misread the information myself

And also....why make a fuss about something as silly as a courtesy car? Just get in the damn thing

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Originally Posted by deasy55

It's in the links that you said you had read earlier. EDIT: Sorry nevermind, misread the information myself

And also....why make a fuss about something as silly as a courtesy car? Just get in the damn thing


From the article: "

Also it’s believed Watson refused to share a courtesy car from his hotel to the course with a European Tour player and instead demanded his own courtesy car."  You are going to base your arguement on something that is believed? As far as I have seen there has been no corroboration of this. No PROOF, yet you make a post critisizing Bubba for something that we don't even know happened.  This is the Ricky Barnes thread all over again.


Again, we don't know the whole situation. He obviously didn't go to France by himself. Perhaps he wanted his wife and/or manager and/or caddie to ride with him and there wouldn't be room. Perhaps, if there was a contract stipulation, he expected the Euro Tour to keep their word. There is nothing more important some people than keeping their word. There could be a million different reasons, some legit others not, that he didn't/couldn't ride in that car.  We don't know the whole story, all we have is that ONE reporters story.

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Originally Posted by shades9323

What about that makes him an ahole? He said he was uncomfortable with how thing are done there. Would you return to a situation that would make you uncomfortable?  A situation where he is there to make money.  Maybe it is his honesty and willingness to speak his mind that is the problem?


Hello shades9323, well first you are a professional player and a Ryder Cup player, you are used to play when thousands of people are watching you, and if you blame the noise or the cameras you have 2 options:

- you are a *****

- you are looking for some excuses to justify a +6 in 2 days

And then being arrogant towards France and ET, a dick not wanting to show a car and a ***** cause you are homesick and you wanna go back to mommy in USA... come one you Americans should be ashamed of this guy!

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No need to defend him whilst being condescending to me at the same time. I will allow you to do one or the other...but never both

And this is not the Rickie Barnes thread all over again. The Rickie Barnes thing was a fan mentioning something that he thought he saw at a tournament. The Bubba being arrogant in Europe thing is all over the golf news.

Also, I'm sure if some European was in America and he described a war memorial as "that thing i drove around in circles" i'm sure there would be something said about that too.

Originally Posted by shades9323

From the article: "

Also it’s believed Watson refused to share a courtesy car from his hotel to the course with a European Tour player and instead demanded his own courtesy car."  You are going to base your arguement on something that is believed? As far as I have seen there has been no corroboration of this. No PROOF, yet you make a post critisizing Bubba for something that we don't even know happened.  This is the Ricky Barnes thread all over again.

Again, we don't know the whole situation. He obviously didn't go to France by himself. Perhaps he wanted his wife and/or manager and/or caddie to ride with him and there wouldn't be room. Perhaps, if there was a contract stipulation, he expected the Euro Tour to keep their word. There is nothing more important some people than keeping their word. There could be a million different reasons, some legit others not, that he didn't/couldn't ride in that car.  We don't know the whole story, all we have is that ONE reporters story.



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Originally Posted by makaveli

Hello shades9323, well first you are a professional player and a Ryder Cup player, you are used to play when thousands of people are watching you, and if you blame the noise or the cameras you have 2 options:

- you are a *****

- you are looking for some excuses to justify a +6 in 2 days

And then being arrogant towards France and ET, a dick not wanting to show a car and a ***** cause you are homesick and you wanna go back to mommy in USA... come one you Americans should be ashamed of this guy!


At first blush, it would appear have a problem with Americans, not Bubba specifically.



Originally Posted by deasy55

No need to defend him whilst being condescending to me at the same time. I will allow you to do one or the other...but never both

And this is not the Rickie Barnes thread all over again. The Rickie Barnes thing was a fan mentioning something that he thought he saw at a tournament. The Bubba being arrogant in Europe thing is all over the golf news.

Also, I'm sure if some European was in America and he described a war memorial as "that thing i drove around in circles" i'm sure there would be something said about that too.



How was I being condescending? I don't think myself superior or of higher rank than you. I am merely participating in a discussion.  I was pointing out the speculation.  We have no idea if he did or did not refuse to share a car or the reasons behind the choice. We have speculation, but no proof, yet he is getting jumped on.

It is all over the golf news?  All I have seen is two sources that say the exact same thing because one used the other as a source, so there is really one source. I don't know the golf new stories sites on that side of the pond, could you point out some more for me?

I thought you said it wasn't about the interview?

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Originally Posted by shades9323

At first blush, it would appear have a problem with Americans, not Bubba specifically.



Please, I really have a problem with arrogant people, just think about the Golden Bear or Seve and then look at Bubba, you cannot buy class...

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Here is what he said about playing in Europe ...

But when politely asked for a post round comment all the World No. 12 could say was:  “I think this might be the only time I play in Europe.  I miss my home.

“I love France. France is a nice place. Paris is a beautiful city.  I went to the Eiffel Tower, to the Louvre, something like that, and the arch way, and saw the castle that we are staying next to (Versailles Palace).”

What is wrong with that quote? Who cares if he does not want to play in Europe again?

And

Also it’s believed Watson refused to share a courtesy car from his hotel to the course with a European Tour player and instead demanded his own courtesy car.

Originally Posted by makaveli

Watch the first video, it's his interview after the second round http://www.europeantour.com/videoaudio/video/index.html

Too bad this a**hole is coming back to Europe for The Open...


In that video he said it is just different and not necessarily bad he is just not used to it.  Again what is wrong with that? He does not come across as an ******* to me at all there.

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Originally Posted by darkhunter139

Here is what he said about playing in Europe ...

But when politely asked for a post round comment all the World No. 12 could say was:  “I think this might be the only time I play in Europe.  I miss my home.

“I love France. France is a nice place. Paris is a beautiful city.  I went to the Eiffel Tower, to the Louvre, something like that, and the arch way, and saw the castle that we are staying next to (Versailles Palace).”

What is wrong with that quote? Who cares if he does not want to play in Europe again?

And

Also it’s believed Watson refused to share a courtesy car from his hotel to the course with a European Tour player and instead demanded his own courtesy car.

In that video he said it is just different and not necessarily bad he is just not used to it.  Again what is wrong with that? He does not come across as an ******* to me at all there.


If you really think there is nothing wrong in all of this I don't think I can make you change your mind, cheers! ;)

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He might have came off as a little rude in his interview but that was directly after a round correct? He was probably a little frustrated with his play still and he did not say anything that horrible.  He never directly insults Europe or the European tour.  He just said what he was thinking and that is part of the reason I like Bubba.

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Originally Posted by darkhunter139

He might have came off as a little rude in his interview but that was directly after a round correct? He was probably a little frustrated with his play still and he did not say anything that horrible.  He never directly insults Europe or the European tour.  He just said what he was thinking and that is part of the reason I like Bubba.



Darkhunter139 that's the point: Bubba Watson is a professional player right? So, EVEN IF he had a bad couple of days he should always be respectful towards the game and also to the journalists and the host country, otherwise you he is just a spoiled guy full of himself who everybody will forget in a short time. Golf is first of all etiquette, we should never forget this!

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Originally Posted by makaveli

Darkhunter139 that's the point: Bubba Watson is a professional player right? So, EVEN IF he had a bad couple of days he should always be respectful towards the game and also to the journalists and the host country, otherwise you he is just a spoiled guy full of himself who everybody will forget in a short time. Golf is first of all etiquette, we should never forget this!

He just said he was uncomfortable at the tournament I don't see how that is being disrespectful towards the game...

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I thought his attitude and demeanour were nothing short of pathetic. I watched that interview live yesterday, and just came across as extremely rude and he'd rather be anywhere else. Homesick is one thing, but being blatantly rude is another; that courtesy car incident just takes the cake. As Wayne Riley said: "Maybe he misses people shouting "you're the man" on every down swing, but it should probably be "you're the child". Not only has he disrepected the organisers of this event, but he's disrespected the no doubt numerous people who came to watch him. They should apologise for getting in the way and paying his wages...

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