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What Causes a Big Slice?

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What are the main causes of a big slice. I have a lot of friends that play baseball and some friends that are beginners who are taking up golf and their biggest problem is an uncontrollable slice. It ranges from over the top pull slices, to uncontrollable push slice. Any opinions??
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The essence of a great baseball swing is leverage. You get the most leverage by extending your arms away from the body. The essence of a great golf swing is control. If your club face is square to the target, you achieve a big slice with an outside-in swing path...usually because your arms are away from your body. This is why people coming from baseball to golf have a slice problem.

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google ball flight laws. Somewhere on the sand trap there is a great article about it. Once you understand whats going on and what to do it seems real easy to fix. A slice is an outside to in swing path. A push slice will be an out to in swing path with an open face. My buddy does the exact same thing because when he hits in baseball you dont have to worry so much about squaring up the face so you dont turn your hands over. You keep your wrists cocked and firm. Turning the hands over will start to atleast square up the clubface but changing your swing path requires alot of repitition.

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Check out this video...

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LOFT (Lack of Friggin Talent)!!!

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I'm surprised Josh hasn't deleted that video since he recently did a D-Plane video

Anyway, just posted on  this yesterday.  Drawing the ball has nothing to do with rolling the face or your forearms.

http://thesandtrap.com/t/58339/how-did-you-fix-your-slice#post_715869

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Most guys slice because the weight isn't enough forward and the handle is too far back at impact with the elbows separating.  That and people think you have to roll or release the club to put some kind of side spin on the ball.

This is what a slicer and a guy that draws it looks like at impact

slice vs draw.jpg

This is a great way to address the ball to help draw the ball.

Troy and Osten A1 caddy.jpg

This is a good drill to get the hands forward.  Do this drill like Erik is and it's almost impossible to not draw it.

Here is kind of the basics for what is happening

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Are you asking seriously or are you trying to make some other point here? Surely someone playing off a +2 has a pretty darn good understanding of the dynamics of the golf swing and how it affects ball flight..... What am I missing?
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Originally Posted by David in FL

Are you asking seriously or are you trying to make some other point here?

Surely someone playing off a +2 has a pretty darn good understanding of the dynamics of the golf swing and how it affects ball flight.....

What am I missing?

The OP is asking about his buddies and wondering why they slice the ball.  Not saying this is the OP, but there are players on tour that have an understanding how the golf swing effects ball flight.  They know what works for them, but not the science or application.  Brandel Chamblee would be a good example lol

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The OP is asking about his buddies and wondering why they slice the ball.  Not saying this is the OP, but there are players on tour that have an understanding how the golf swing effects ball flight.  They know what works for them, but not the science or application.  Brandel Chamblee would be a good example lol

I'll have to take your word for it. I've just never run into a good golfer, certainly not one at that level, that doesn't understand the basic mechanics of the golf swing and its relationship to ball flight.....at least well enough to answer the question "what causes a big slice"? I wasn't picking. Genuinely thought I missed a point.

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