Tiger Woods: Not Fan Friendly

[Mr. Desmond]

This is breaking news?

Tiger decides when it is time to be friendly, and is friendly in millions of dollars of way with his charitable foundation. Personally, if he needs private time, that is before the round.

Question: Did you try to guilt Tiger into saying something like: I doubt if Tiger wants to say "Hi" before his round. It's okay, Dear. Don't cry.

Did you say it loud enough for him to hear? Guess I would have tried to guilt him into a smile or a thank you. I'm a Dad, I do what I can do.

[Kapanda]

Poor form on your part to feel like this was worth talking about.

Hopefully, your girl learned the lesson: people don't always respond to us the way we expect. That is life.

[onesome]

In the code of conduct section of the handout to fans at the open it said no autographs at all. In reality this was not abided by so well by players or fans but I think practice rounds would be the more appropriate time to bend the rules some. We went on wednesday and my daughter was able to get about 20 or so and the only player who wasn't very cooperative to autographs was Sergio Garcia, sure he did some but it was very little like he had a pre determined amount and a lot of the little kids were not able to get his autograph because grown men would push their way up to the front, I was needless to say a little disgusted.

[sean_miller]

Why do people want stuff autographed? I get free logo stuff once in awhile. When it's been signed (which it always is) I stick it in a closet somewhere rather than wear it  - yay.

[RPMPIRE]

I'm the same. Not really into souvenirs all that much. I have a hat signed by Jim Furyk at the President's Cup and it's sitting in the closet collecting dust.

I can understand why some celebs don't want to give autographs, especially Tiger. At the President's Cup in 2009, AK was signing autographs along the ropes on the way to the clubhouse. One side who he wasn't signing were heckling him. One guy said "AK, I know you can turn around and sign this" and other's said stuff similar to that. AK signed a couple more, closed his Sharpie and walked away and I don't blame him. Why would I want to give something to someone who's being a douche? Tiger may not have acknowledged you, but as any Tiger fan through the years, I'm not surprised.

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Why do people want stuff autographed? I get free logo stuff once in awhile. When it's been signed (which it always is) I stick it in a closet somewhere rather than wear it  - yay.

[onesome]

Originally Posted by sean_miller

Why do people want stuff autographed? I get free logo stuff once in awhile. When it's been signed (which it always is) I stick it in a closet somewhere rather than wear it  - yay.

I can see why kids would but for adults it can only be monetary value.

[ApocG10]

Originally Posted by onesome

I can see why kids would but for adults it can only be monetary value.

Not true. There is no age where a souvenir is not wanted.

I have a hockey stick that was used in the playoffs, and signed by sergei federov, it decorates the wall of my home office. I have 4 bruins jerseys, one signed by Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque, Andy Moog, and Tim Thomas.. The Orr Jersey is hung in a shadow box in my office,  Bourque's is in my office at work, and the other two are in our 'rec room'. My wife has tons of baseball memorabilia. None of it is there for its value. It will NEVER be sold (and it is all authenticated). My Bobby Orr and Wayne Gretzky rookie cards are signed and worth a mint, but again, they will never be sold. So yes, there is a very real reason that adults have signed gear.

The only things I have from golfers though, is a glove signed by Mike Wier. Its also in my office at home.

[sean_miller]

Originally Posted by ApocG10

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Originally Posted by onesome

I can see why kids would but for adults it can only be monetary value.

Not true. There is no age where a souvenir is not wanted.

I have a hockey stick that was used in the playoffs, and signed by sergei federov, it decorates the wall of my home office. I have 4 bruins jerseys, one signed by Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque, Andy Moog, and Tim Thomas.. The Orr Jersey is hung in a shadow box in my office,  Bourque's is in my office at work, and the other two are in our 'rec room'. My wife has tons of baseball memorabilia. None of it is there for its value. It will NEVER be sold (and it is all authenticated). My Bobby Orr and Wayne Gretzky rookie cards are signed and worth a mint, but again, they will never be sold. So yes, there is a very real reason that adults have signed gear.

The only things I have from golfers though, is a glove signed by Mike Wier. Its also in my office at home.

I love the Red Wings and have a jersey signed by every member of the 2008 Stanley Cup Championship team.  I have virtually no use for it but will never part with it (or the zillion other signed items I have) for fear of offending anyone in the family. I have a nicely framed autographed photo of Tom Watson and I like it, but it was given to me by an ex so it's tainted. Meh.

[Mr. Desmond]

I have a cap signed by Byron Nelson ....

and that's all...

[GloriousBogey]

Everyone has there opinion on how he should behave. I say when you beat him you can tell him how to treat the fans!

[the19thhole]

That's a bit harsh. He is arguably the best in the game. And every ones "feelings" on the situation will be different. He wanted Tiger's autograph so he built himself up and assumed Tiger would just do what he wished. Tiger was probably just focused on the day and meant nothing buy his actions. Remember your only hearing one side of the story.

Lol. I was being sarcastic :-\

[JerryTimes]

While I'm not a Tiger fan one bit, I don't think he owes fans anything.  Sure, a wave would be nice, but he ignored you.  So what?  There is a time and place for autographs, but before a round isn't the time.

[gwlee7]

Originally Posted by gwlee7

While he dosen't "have to" do dick, Tiger in my opinion still needs to remember that these fans he's ignoring are the ones who have allowed him the lifestyle that he thoroughly enjoys.  He is playing a professional sport/game for a living and the only reason there is any money for him to win is because there are spectators that take an interest in what's going on.  No spectators, no sponsors putting up prize money or paying him to endorse their products.  It's that simple. If no one gave a shit about watching golf, he's just another schmo trying to make ends meet like the rest of us.

Quote:Originally Posted by newtogolf

Tiger makes money whether the fans are there for him or Phil.  If you want to really reduce it, people watch golf because because Tiger is a great golfer and they want to witness his greatness on the course, not because he's a great humanitarian.  If Tiger never won a tournament what are the chances the OP would have even bothered to create the thread?

I think you missed my point which was that Tiger could be well served to be grateful that people even care about golf in the first place.  If no one cared about golf (i.e. if it were tiddlywinks or something like that), there wouldn't be any money to play for, or endorsements either.  Off the course, he can have sex with llamas for all I care.  I am stricly talking about it being good to remember that if no one cared to watch, he wouldn't be getting paid. He would not make money if there were no fans.

[montru]

Originally Posted by turtleback

C'mon, let's face it. The OP has certain ideas of how the world should run and when the world doesn't meet his expectations he whines about it.  Tiger doesn't meet his expectations?  He whines about it.  The US Open charges more than he thinks they should at the concession stands?  He whines about it.  He get caught trying to sneak food into an event?  He whines about it.

No one has a claim to the time or attention of anyone else just because they paid an attendance fee.  If you don't like the prices, don't go.  If you aren't going to follow the rules you should be caught - and probably humiliated into the bargain.  The fans' money gives them the right to watch the performance.  To expect anything more is, frankly, kind of creepy.

And when anyone says "It is not the money, it is the principle"  you can be darned sure that it is really the money.

I am not whining about it I am merely expressing my opinion, I wasn't trying to sneak food in, I was very open about it.

I can assure you that money is not an issue for me, my household income is well into six figures!

[Wallstreet]

Originally Posted by montru

I am not whining about it I am merely expressing my opinion, I wasn't trying to sneak food in, I was very open about it.

I can assure you that money is not an issue for me, my household income is well into six figures!

Wow are you serious?  You have to defend your income on an internet forum.  Please go away.

[montru]

Originally Posted by Wallstreet

Wow are you serious?  You have to defend your income on an internet forum.  Please go away.

I don't have to defend anything. I just don't like being called a liar.

[turtleback]

Originally Posted by montru

I am not whining about it I am merely expressing my opinion, I wasn't trying to sneak food in, I was very open about it.

I can assure you that money is not an issue for me, my household income is well into six figures!

You most certainly did whine and continue to whine.

And bragging about your household income (bad form, BTW) has nothing to do with it.  Some of the richest people are some of the cheapest.  People are criticizing Tiger about that all the time and I'm guessing his household income just might be larger than yours.

Those prices may be high, but if you think they are outrageously high for a major sporting event then you need to get out more.  Or not.

[montru]

Originally Posted by turtleback

You most certainly did whine and continue to whine.

And bragging about your household income (bad form, BTW) has nothing to do with it.  Some of the richest people are some of the cheapest.  People are criticizing Tiger about that all the time and I'm guessing his household income just might be larger than yours.

Those prices may be high, but if you think they are outrageously high for a major sporting event then you need to get out more.  Or not.

I wasn't trying to brag about my income, I was just trying to make the point to Wallstreet that it is more about the principle than the money.

Maybe I do need to get out more!