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I play in Tuesday night league. We rotate from the back blue tees to the white tees the next week then down to the gold tees. I scored an eagle from the gold tees so is it worth anything? Three good shots 1 ft from the pin on the second shot  but definitely not the same distance as from the back tees  I have never been on in 2 from the blues.

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While I agree 390 is a short par 5 and because OP was rotating tees so they probably were not appropriate tees for him I find it laughable at people who say an eagle on a 450 par 5 isn't really an eag

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Three is three. Unless the yardage was so short that it could not be considered a short par 5, then it is a three on a par 5. Nice.

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i have a similar issue with the first "eagle" i ever made.  it was a short course and had a par 4 that was a mere 230 yards.  i hit the green with a 3-wood and sank the putt, but i just couldn't ever quite bring myself to say it was an eagle.  i felt like it was - and i still consider it to be - a great birdie on a long par 3.

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Eagles, birdies, pars, bogies are all different just like golf courses and individual holes are different. Some may have been easier than others, some may have been luckier than others, some on a rainy windy day etc. It's an eagle if you made 3 on a par 5 from the gold tees.

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how short was the hole.  Under 450, you're probably looking at what should be a par 4.

Anyway, you are going to have plenty of good shots end up in poor positions and plenty of rounds/holes where you strike the ball well but don't score, so I never look down upon any 3 on a hole that the field is playing as a par 5.  you gained 2 strokes on everybody else there (or at least on course par).

I have about 40-50 eagles in my life.  I count them all, even the half dozen or more from easier tees for whatever reason.  I did my job, and I'm not going to look down on the accomplishment.

Of course if you are running around bragging about eagles in the bar afterwards, you might want to talk about the ones you actually popped in from the fairway.

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We used to play Jr Team matches each year at Riviera CC where at that time the 2nd hole played as a par 5 for the members from both the back and up tee, but was played as a par 4 from the up tees at the LA Open.  I don`t recall the exact distance at the time, but it played to an uphill green into the wind and one year the Pro`s son knocked in a 3 wood for his second shot.  We celebrated  it a double eagle at the time, but I see now that the hole is listed as a par 4 on their website and annually rated as one of the toughest on tour.

http://www.therivieracountryclub.com/html/Course_Tour.cfm?Hole_ID=2 The somewhat arbitrary thing is that #1 is only about 40 yards longer, but has a very elevated tee and usually plays downwind, so it really doesn`t play any farther (although the barranca bisecting the fairway at about 300 yards limits the options off the tee).  Looking at the 2012 LA Open stats, it looks like 1,2,12 & 15 played within .1 shots of each other, but the later 3 were considered (very hard) par 4s while the first was considered a (very easy) par 5.

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An eagle is an eagle is an eagle is an eagle.

Don't count yourself short. Great job.

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Originally Posted by evan01

I play in Tuesday night league. We rotate from the back blue tees to the white tees the next week then down to the gold tees. I scored an eagle from the gold tees so is it worth anything? Three good shots 1 ft from the pin on the second shot  but definitely not the same distance as from the back tees  I have never been on in 2 from the blues.

It depends.......(maybe not)

How short was the par5 playing from the gold tees?   What was the yardage?   IMO....playing the front tees may turn it into a medium length par4.

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Originally Posted by mirv

i have a similar issue with the first "eagle" i ever made.  it was a short course and had a par 4 that was a mere 230 yards.  i hit the green with a 3-wood and sank the putt, but i just couldn't ever quite bring myself to say it was an eagle.  i felt like it was - and i still consider it to be - a great birdie on a long par 3.

Nice birdie!!

yes....230yds is a par 3........no matter how you slice it.  it's a great birdie though!

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BS!! It's an eagle!! The pro's often play "drivable par 4's", a 2 there is an eagle! Anyone who will tell you different, probably also compensates in other ways

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Sorry....

IE.....making a 3 on a 450yd par5 isn't "REALLY" an eagle.   It's a nice birdie......

We don't even know the actual yardage yet, but I'm guessing it was pretty damn short or he wouldn't have asked.  LOL....I mean seriously folks.  If you are a man playing the women tees on a par5 and it's 390yds.....and you make 3.........is it really an eagle?

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Yea...don't sweat the womens tee half of the equation... it's a par 5 for the girls so it counts

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OK here are the stats on the hole.     Blue  508/white 482/gold 360. It's a blind big up hill drive then over a creek to a raised green.  Thanks for all the replies! I will take the eagle and hopefully it will grow into a big eagle someday.  Oh yea Buckeye nut you are tuff on the eagle rookie. Bet you don't give many putts!

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