Jump to content
IGNORED

Putting.....watch the putter or the ball

Valleygolfer

By Valleygolfer,
in Golf Talk

 Share
Note: This thread is 4099 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

0  

1 member has voted

  1. 1. Do you look at the ball or watch the putter

    • Putter
      15
    • Ball
      37

Recommended Posts

BuckeyeNut Great Member

BuckeyeNut

All kidding aside folks, this isn't an "opinion" topic.  yes...you can and maybe should focus on a spot in front of the ball during the alignment process.   During the stroke........you need to focus on the ball to make consistent 'center-clubface' contact and get the ball rolling straight down that line on a consistent basis.......

There are no iffs, ands, or butts about it................If the eyes wander, so will your putting stroke.

What's in Paul's Bag:
- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Driver
- Big Bertha Alpha 815 3-wood
- Callaway Razr Fit 5-wood
- Callaway Big Bertha 4-5 Rescue Clubs
-- Mizuno Mx-25 six iron-gap wedge
- Mizuno Mp-T4 56degree SW
- Mizuno Mp-T11 60degree SW
- Putter- Ping Cadence Ketsch

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 68
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Mr. Desmond
Mr. Desmond

You forgot "neither." Dave Stockton, in "Unconscious Putting" asks you to look at a spot along your initial line in front of the ball. I've found it smoothes out your stroke and makes you less

Kieran123
Kieran123

I never thought about this until now - and I am screwed.

colin007
colin007

yeah, but c'mon, youre plumb bobbing your 4th putt.  im not listening to anything you say.

Bullitt5339 Great Member

Bullitt5339

I need to change my vote........

After a few putting lessons, and a change in putters I've stopped watching the putter and started watching the ball.  I have been rewarded with my putting stats going down by an average of 4 strokes per round, which I promptly made up for by struggling with my driver.  Gotta love this game.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

colin007 Incredible Member

colin007

Originally Posted by zipazoid

Disagree.

yeah, but c'mon, youre plumb bobbing your 4th putt.  im not listening to anything you say.

  • Upvote 1

Colin P.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1

Mr. Desmond Super Member

Mr. Desmond

Originally Posted by BuckeyeNut

All kidding aside folks, this isn't an "opinion" topic.  yes...you can and maybe should focus on a spot in front of the ball during the alignment process.   During the stroke........you need to focus on the ball to make consistent 'center-clubface' contact and get the ball rolling straight down that line on a consistent basis.......

There are no iffs, ands, or butts about it................If the eyes wander, so will your putting stroke.

Ummm no.

See Dave Stockton, Instructor of Rory McIlroy... Stockton teaches to look at a spot in front of the ball along the line ... gets you less ball conscious for a better roll

But I can go both ways -- before that, I looked at the point of contact on the ball.

Ping G400 Max 9/TPT Shaft, TEE EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd, PXG 22 HY, Mizuno JPX919F 5-GW, TItleist SM7 Raw 55-09, 59-11, Bettinardi BB39

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1

indyvai Well Established Member

indyvai

All kidding aside folks, this isn't an "opinion" topic.  yes...you can and maybe should focus on a spot in front of the ball during the alignment process.   During the stroke........you need to focus on the ball to make consistent 'center-clubface' contact and get the ball rolling straight down that line on a consistent basis....... There are no iffs, ands, or butts about it................If the eyes wander, so will your putting stroke.

Sorry to be blunt... but that's your opinion being stated as a fact without anything to support it. And guess what... there is none...

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

dak4n6 Great Member

dak4n6

Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckeyeNut

All kidding aside folks, this isn't an "opinion" topic.  yes...you can and maybe should focus on a spot in front of the ball during the alignment process.   During the stroke........you need to focus on the ball to make consistent 'center-clubface' contact and get the ball rolling straight down that line on a consistent basis.......

There are no iffs, ands, or butts about it................If the eyes wander, so will your putting stroke.

Ummm no.

See Dave Stockton, Instructor of Rory McIlroy... Stockton teaches to look at a spot in front of the ball along the line ... gets you less ball conscious for a better roll

But I can go both ways -- before that, I looked at the point of contact on the ball.

I believe he teaches picking a spot in front of the ball to aim at, not looking at it during the stroke. I'm with Buckeye..the better I see the ball the better my results.

dak4n6

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Pablo68 Dedicated Member

Pablo68

I would think if you got into a habit of watching the putter go back, you might be inclined to swivel your head at times unconsciously.

Head movement during putting doesn't sound good, does it?

Mr. Desmond's post about Stockton's tip on focusing on a spot in front of the ball is the first I've heard of that and sounds interesting. I'm inclined to think that also might cause you to have your eyes misaligned (aimed left of target line).

I think I'll stick with keeping my eyes on the ball and try not to move my head.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

golfjunky0331 Established Member

golfjunky0331

I tried the 1-2" in front of the ball and didn't like it, it takes your peripheral vision too far away from putter path. I personally like watching the point of impact at the edge of the back of the ball and waiting until ball is either in the hole or half way on longer putts. This has helped me hole a lot more putts. Also I think when you watch the putter if it goes back offline, you try to manipulate the path with your hands and end up pushing or pulling the putt way offline and you're thinking about your stroke. When your focusing on the ball which is not moving it helps clear your mind.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mr. Desmond Super Member

Mr. Desmond

Originally Posted by dak4n6

I believe he teaches picking a spot in front of the ball to aim at, not looking at it during the stroke. I'm with Buckeye..the better I see the ball the better my results.

NO.

Your belief is incorrect.

Page 31 ..."When I putt, my eyes leave the target and come down toward the ball, but I don't look at the ball. I'm looking at a spot on my line, two inches in front of the ball. I'm making an unconscious stroke, and watching my ball roll over an exact spot two inches down the target line."

Ping G400 Max 9/TPT Shaft, TEE EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd, PXG 22 HY, Mizuno JPX919F 5-GW, TItleist SM7 Raw 55-09, 59-11, Bettinardi BB39

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1

dak4n6 Great Member

dak4n6

Originally Posted by Mr. Desmond

Quote:

Originally Posted by dak4n6

I believe he teaches picking a spot in front of the ball to aim at, not looking at it during the stroke. I'm with Buckeye..the better I see the ball the better my results.

NO.

Your belief is incorrect.

Page 31 ..."When I putt, my eyes leave the target and come down toward the ball, but I don't look at the ball. I'm looking at a spot on my line, two inches in front of the ball, I'm making an unconscious stroke, and watching my ball roll over an exact spot two inches down the target line."

OK. I stand rebuffed.

I thought you were talking about Jack's method where he picks a spot in front of the ball but looks back at the ball while putting.

dak4n6

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mr. Desmond Super Member

Mr. Desmond

Originally Posted by dak4n6

OK. I stand rebuffed.

I thought you were talking about Jack's method where he picks a spot in front of the ball but looks back at the ball while putting.

In my experience, people do not like to read - so I need to make it short and sweet, not as much for you - you get it - but for other members.

I think Stockton believes looking at the target line 2 inches in front of the ball frees up your stroke. You are not ball conscious so you are more likely to be more relaxed physically and mentally when making the stroke.

Ping G400 Max 9/TPT Shaft, TEE EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd, PXG 22 HY, Mizuno JPX919F 5-GW, TItleist SM7 Raw 55-09, 59-11, Bettinardi BB39

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1
1
1

Note: This thread is 4099 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up

  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.

  • Posts

    • Club Rat
      Robert Trent Jones Trail

      By Club Rat ·

      A good option is to play the Par 3 courses. after playing an 18 -hole round. The Par 3 courses have 18 holes, we usually played only 9 holes after playing 36 holes on each of the trips we had. You may want to check out Grand National while you're in the middle of Alabama. I enjoyed Oxmoor Valley and Ross Bridge courses which are a short drive north.
    • TN94z
      Where Is Your Next Golf Trip Going to Be?

      By TN94z ·

      In August, I am playing the World Am in Myrtle Beach. I do not know which courses yet, but should be a blast. Aside from that, those are the only golf trip plans, unless I play while on vacation in Destin in June.
    • p1n9183
      Gained a Lot of Club Speed in a Couple of Days With the Same Effort. Try This Out!

      By p1n9183 ·

      Even on a perfect center hit I was receiving at most 1.48 smash factor. 10 days ago on the warming up for a round my Driver made a weird sound, I checked the bottom and it was cracked. Don't know for how long it was cracked but at least this time the crack was easy visible. Maybe it was already cracked before but with a more subtle crack?.. don't know. I'm waiting for TaylorMade to approve the warranty and send me a new head. I was using the Stealth Plus, I will take the opportunity and upgrade it to the Qi10 LS paying the difference.  On Sunday with my old Titleist 915 and softer balls I was reaching 1.5, even 1.51 on center hits. Test didn't went well. Only gained 2..3 miles, not worth pursuing. Figured out that with a ball and with a target, my path was way to in to out with this new idea, so in order to move the club in the correct path I needed to slow down to redirect the club on the downswing or aim more to the right, close the face a play a big hook.. not possible. I already play a big draw with Driver, more curvature is unplayable. Yesterday at home, with no ball messed around with a more neutral path, even swinging a little out to in. It felt a lot more in sync with the body. With a big in to out path it feels like my hands are working right, away from the body, when the body is working to rotate to the left. With the path to the left is was easier to apply force thru the hitting zone.  As always tested 10 swings with my current swing (A), and 10 with this little out to in path(B).  The difference was huge, like 12 miles faster with swing (B). I knew something wasn't right. The fact was that the PRGR was aligned more in line with the (B) path so it of course was giving higher speeds. I proceeded to align it with the (A) path and tested again 5 more swings each. Again (B) was faster but only by 5 miles. (Made a tiny experiment moving the PRGR to a more extreme in to out path and the swings register 25/30% slower for both swings, so it wasn't reading properly at that angle) Finally I moved the PRGR in the middle of both paths, and this time (B) won by 9 miles. Off course, this was without a ball and a target so.. I will be hitting the range tomorrow to see the real difference.            
    • coachjimsc
      Wordle Daily Puzzle

      By coachjimsc ·

      Wordle 1,032 3/6 ⬜🟨⬜🟨⬜ ⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜ 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 😲
    • klineka
      What'd You Shoot Today?

      By klineka ·

      At Bent Tree, right? I'm surprised the greens were that slow. I played right around the corner at Northstar and their greens were normal speed. Slightly soft/receptive but not overly so and not slow or shaggy by any means.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

  I accept
The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...