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Has anyone received this unsolicited dvd from the PGA? I'm a little annoyed they send this and if you do nothing the send more and bill you for the "instructional" dvds. Maybe I made a mistake by joining USGA and they sold my info to a marketing outfit. Perhaps one of the online stores sold my info

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No.  But you should read the fine print for joining USGA.

If it is indeed that they sent it to you without your consent (again you must read the fine prints), you are under no legal obligation to pay or return the item.

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I haven't gotten any such thing and I've been a USGA member for quite some time.

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Has anyone received this unsolicited dvd from the PGA? I'm a little annoyed they send this and if you do nothing the send more and bill you for the "instructional" dvds. Maybe I made a mistake by joining USGA and they sold my info to a marketing outfit. Perhaps one of the online stores sold my info

I got one of those last year (or the year before), and I definitely don't remember asking for it. I don't think I've ever had any interaction with the PGA at all, in fact, other than sending the DVD as well as a letter of displeasure (that I'm sure when unread) back to them.

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Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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Was it from the PGA or the USGA? I've been a USGA member for years and have never received anything like that.

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3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
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Been a member of the USGA for years and never got any instructional DVD from them or the PGA.

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Was it from the PGA or the USGA? I've been a USGA member for years and have never received anything like that.

Mine was PGA. I read the OP's as being from the PGA too, but he was wondering if maybe the USGA gave the PGA his info?

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Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

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Reading a little more on the USGA's membership terms, thanks Ukari, its seems as though its possible they sold info to PGA for this marketing scam. OF course it also could have been an online golf store i bought from also. Not sure, regardless any marketing ploy of this type is unwelcome and I will be opting out of the USGA's info sharing, and any others I can think of.

Just to clear things up this was sent by "PGA" not PGA Tour or USGA

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I got one last year like JAMO.  Not really worth watching.  Just send it back or they will hound you with e-mails.

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Originally Posted by chilepepper

Has anyone received this unsolicited dvd from the PGA? I'm a little annoyed they send this and if you do nothing the send more and bill you for the "instructional" dvds. Maybe I made a mistake by joining USGA and they sold my info to a marketing outfit. Perhaps one of the online stores sold my info

I've been a USGA member for 26 years, and they don't do anything like what you are accusing them of unless you have given them permission to do so.  The only things you get from them are what they inform you of up front.  The only golf spam I've ever gotten has come from places like TGW.  I don't even remember what I bought from them, but I got endless advertising emails from them until I cancelled my Comcast account when we moved here.  I think you've gotten on the list from some other source.

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Originally Posted by Fourputt

I've been a USGA member for 26 years, and they don't do anything like what you are accusing them of unless you have given them permission to do so.  The only things you get from them are what they inform you of up front.  The only golf spam I've ever gotten has come from places like TGW.  I don't even remember what I bought from them, but I got endless advertising emails from them until I cancelled my Comcast account when we moved here.  I think you've gotten on the list from some other source.

I DID include the possibility that it came from another source. However, reading the fine print of membership terms with USGA, it is not a matter of "giving them permission" to  sell data , that seems to be automatic, but rather "telling them NOT TO" . To be clear I am NOT pissed at USGA

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I got one, too, several months ago.  I’m not sure what mailing list was used to send it to me.  The address label used a military rank I used to have, but which I haven’t held for several years. So they didn’t get it from my USGA membership data, Golf Galaxy, Golf Digest, or Medicus.

Off topic, but related to the quality of the DVD instructional content:

On the DVD, they show Brandel Chamblee on a launch monitor hitting shots with commentary by the PGA Director of Instruction, Rick Martino.  In deliberately hitting a slice, Chamblee has an out-to-in swingpath 1.0* relative to the target line, and open clubface 10.6* (to target line or swingpath?).  Martino says, “The path is slightly across, starting the ball a little left. The face is wide open, overriding the path and sending the ball way to the right.” The monitor clearly shows the ball starting right and staying right.

They then show a “hook” with swingpath 4.0*in-to-out and face angle 0.7*closed (relative to target line?).  Martino says, it “started out to the right and curved back to the target.” But the monitor shows it started left and stayed left. (The shot ended up 8.6 yards left of center. Chamblee describes this as a “big hook.” Looks more like a pull-draw to me.  Is 8.6 yards enough to call it a big hook?)

Chamblee goes on to talk about how the numbers on the monitor don’t lie.  But they’ve just finished ignoring what the monitor really showed.

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I got one to, watched it once and forgot all about it, Received a few bills/ offers to send more but they petered off. Just thinking we went to the Connecticut Golf show last February, wrote our names and addresses on a few "chances to win" offers etc. Who knows where that info ended up... Didn't win anything I guess.

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LOL. When I read the thread title I picture a DVD of random people walking up to other random people on range and saying things like, "you lifted your head", "don't straighten your trail leg, you'll lose power", "your back needs to be straighter, you're too slumped", and other unsolicited advice....now I see that it's not a DVD of unsolicited instruction but an unsolicited DVD of instruction. I need reading lessons! Oh, well, gave me a chuckle anyway.

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Originally Posted by Ernest Jones

LOL. When I read the thread title I picture a DVD of random people walking up to other random people on range and saying things like, "you lifted your head", "don't straighten your trail leg, you'll lose power", "your back needs to be straighter, you're too slumped", and other unsolicited advice....now I see that it's not a DVD of unsolicited instruction but an unsolicited DVD of instruction. I need reading lessons! Oh, well, gave me a chuckle anyway.


HaHa, Im headed to the range in a few minutes, I may meet some of those people

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