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Jason Warneke

New To Golf, First thing to do to upgrade my bag

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Hi Guys, new to the forum and just want to say this is a great resource

I got a set for Christmas, the Tour Edge HP11 which they are working great but always looking to get better.

The set it includes D-3W - 5W -  4H-5i-6i-7i-8i -9i-PW and SW

I will probably upgrade the driver next summer and slowly just uprgrade the whole thing as I get better

althought was wondering if I should add a 52 or 56 degree before upgrading clubs??

Thanks for your help, love the forum!

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What degrees are your PW and SW right now? 56 is basically a SW and 52 a gap wedge where you'd only need if the loft on your PW and SW is more than 8 degrees or so.  More importantly, whats your average distance with your PW and SW?

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I would suggest upgrading your swing.  What I mean is, you already have good equipment.  What you have is more than sufficient to play great golf.

Since this is an equipment thread, I will tell you that the club that costs most golfers the most strokes isn't the driver.  It's the putter / wedges.  Learn the game solid from inside of 50 yards, and you will be WELL on your way.

Most golfers that are honest with themselves will tell you that the fastest way to lower your scores isn't by hitting 280 yard drives, or hitting lots of GiRs (to be honest, these things don't hurt) it's getting that chip close and sinking the putt.

So if it were me, and I were in your shoes.  I would make sure that I felt 100% confident with my putter and wedges.

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While I agree on "upgrading your swing".. I believe the most important club in the bag, and the one worth dropping $$$ on is the putter.

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Originally Posted by School Yard Pro

While I agree on "upgrading your swing".. I believe the most important club in the bag, and the one worth dropping $$$ on is the putter.


spending a lot of money on a putter may or may not be the right course of action.  Iacas recommends the Eidel fitting process for selecting a putter. This gives you exactly what is right for your stroke. When you are first starting out, you don't have a putting stroke just yet.  Most new players will try lots of different approaches, and eventually find something that they are comfortable with. So you might end up spending $400 on a putter that works on a flawed stroke, fix the stroke and end up with the wrong equipment.

Spend money learning what you look like as a golfer, then fit equipment to that player.  When people are first starting, they can learn the appropriate way to swing a golf club.  Too many people buy clubs, get some help from friends, get bad habits, and then have to spend lots of money to break those bad habits later.

If you don't have money to spend on lessons, lots of people have found that Ben Hogan's five lessons book is a GREAT start.  That combined with regular visits to TST will likely give you a great foundation.

So to the Original poster.  If I were to tell you what is the FIRST peace of your golf bag to upgrade it would be you.

http://www.amazon.com/Five-Lessons-Modern-Fundamentals-Golf/dp/0671612972

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If that is you wife in the picture, then you definitely do not need an upgrade there, and if she is the one who gave you the clubs for Christmas you are doubly blessed! As far as your bag, I will chime in with the others and say that it sounds fine for now, and really should be fine until you approach 85-90 regularly, or until your handicap is 12-15 or better. In the novel "Golf in the Kingdom", the character referred to the driver as the "play club", in other words, the club used to put the ball in play. We would all be better off if we thought this way, so in some ways, you'd be better off with the driver in your set, and thinking of it as a club that goes to a different distance off the tee than your 3 wood. That said, personalization is most important in the driver, wedge, and putter. As you have considered, probably by next summer you would get the most benefit from a wedge or wedge set addition that helps you manage those distances and around the green shots the best. As others have indicated, the swing you want to fit those tools to is the swing you have next summer, which may not be the one you have now.
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Thank you guys for your responses, I just bought the book and think you guys are right, instead of rushing I need to just play and get comfortable with myself and lower my golf score.

Thanks for the help!

p.s. my girlfriend says thank you!

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Focus on your beginner set until your game stabilizes.

Several pros I talked to have said the beginner sets are a fine way to start. They added that golfers know when to upgrade - they find the beginner's set is holding them back.

Maybe add a Gap Wedge, otherwise just play what you have.

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Focus on your beginner set until your game stabilizes. Several pros I talked to have said the beginner sets are a fine way to start. They added that golfers know when to upgrade - they find the beginner's set is holding them back. Maybe add a Gap Wedge, otherwise just play what you have.

Couldn't agree more. Listen to the wise words of Mr.Tiger. He is a genius when it comes to clubs!

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That set looks quite good. I'd keep it for a while following the driver, woods, hybrids and finally irons, putter replacement. Maybe one every year.
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I would suggest upgrading your swing.  What I mean is, you already have good equipment.  What you have is more than sufficient to play great golf.  Since this is an equipment thread, I will tell you that the club that costs most golfers the most strokes isn't the driver.  It's the putter / wedges.  Learn the game solid from inside of 50 yards, and you will be WELL on your way.  Most golfers that are honest with themselves will tell you that the fastest way to lower your scores isn't by hitting 280 yard drives, or hitting lots of GiRs (to be honest, these things don't hurt) it's getting that chip close and sinking the putt.  So if it were me, and I were in your shoes.  I would make sure that I felt 100% confident with my putter and wedges.

I kind of disagree. Hitting big drives isn't as important but I feel hitting GIR is very important. If you can hit a GIR, you will have a chance for par. Short game can be important here, but if it's a 190 yard par 3, you only have one chance to hit the GIR and that is no short game shot. Short game can help you recover, but I think you get what I'm saying. As an example, in one of my more recent rounds I hit 12 out of 14 FIR, or 85.714% and averaged around 250 yards for my driving. But, I could barely hit a GIR to save my life, so that really hurt my score.

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Originally Posted by Wally

... As an example, in one of my more recent rounds I hit 12 out of 14 FIR, or 85.714% and averaged around 250 yards for my driving. But, I could barely hit a GIR to save my life, so that really hurt my score.

I don't believe Jason has to worry about this  until season 2 or 3. I doubt if the knows the FIR and GIR acronyms yet.

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Forget about tools: you need technique.  Expensive club or knock-off will make very little difference if you do not know how to use the tool. Best to spend you money, and time, on a few groups lessons and lots of driving range practice. Head out to the course on your own some evenings and learn what you can do without any pressure.  For the vast majority of men your age just taking up golf,  'it ain't easy'!  And i would offer my opinion that the most important shot is 'off the tee'. Then the wedge, finally the putter.  I always recommend Percy Boomer's book. 'On Learning Golf". It's a great read and exceedingly helpful to understand what must be done to hit the ball far and straight.

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