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I mentioned in another thread that I've recently taken a lesson from my club teaching pro.  Now that I've had time to work on the lesson's, I feel more comfortable with the new swing thoughts and moves.  I went in for a check up lesson last Friday and we worked on the same move, but exxagerating the concept of moving left at the start of the downswing.  Actually, my pro feels the move left should begin just before you finish the backswing.  Anyway, one of the affects of this move (for my swing) is to steepen my angle of attack.  Trackman says I'm coming in very shallow with my irons and Brian feels if I get far enough left I HAVE TO come down steeper at the ball.  I proved him wrong!  LOL

My question is how this relates to the driver swing.  As I understand it, one needs a bit more upswing at the ball with a driver to promote higher launch.  I am sure the philosophy of rather to hit driver on the downswing vs upswing is subjective and argumentative, but I find myself struggling with my driver while incorporating this new move.  I didn't think to ask Brian when I had my lesson and will ask at our next.  In the meantime, does anyone have any light to shed on this thought?  Should I have two swings - one for my irons and one for my driver?

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There a lot of opinions about this. I say my" motion" with the driver is different than my iron motion. I think that maybe called rhythm? My swing tempo is the same thought. I like to have my shaft look like its parallel or 3/4 to parallel at the top of my backswing with the woods. My irons tend to 1/2 swing and my shaft look like its vertical pointing upward at the top of my swing. sometimes for really short iron shots 60 to 100 I think I go 1/4 swing
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Right.  Maybe I didn't phrase this very well.  The question I'm asking pertains to swinging down vs up on the driver.  My swing teacher is having me work on a move left that promotes swinging down on the ball at impact.  This move seems counter to what I thought about the angle of attack for a driver.  However, I see pro's make the same move left with a driver as they do with an iron.  So, is the swing the same, but the ball placement that makes the difference?  Or do I need to make a subtle swing arc change that catches my tee'd up ball on the upswing?  One swing or two?

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Fairwaywood :tmade: Rocketballz Stage 2 15*

Hybrids :ping: i15 20* and 23* Hybrids

Irons :mizuno: MP64 4 - PW

Wedges :edel: 54* and 58* 

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Slightly different objectives. Slightly different conditions. So slightly different swings.

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amac Well Established Member

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Slightly different objectives. Slightly different conditions.

So slightly different swings.

Please explain.

Driver :tmade: R1

Fairwaywood :tmade: Rocketballz Stage 2 15*

Hybrids :ping: i15 20* and 23* Hybrids

Irons :mizuno: MP64 4 - PW

Wedges :edel: 54* and 58* 

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Please explain.

I just did. :-) Tomorrow. Or perhaps @david_wedzik or @mvmac will before I get home.

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I just did.

Lol, I love Iacas' airport posts, so economical. :-P

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Lol, I love Iacas' airport posts, so economical.

But we want 1st class dang it.

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With the driver the ball is on a tee closer to my left foot and the torso is a bit more upright. But other than that, my takeaway and downswing are fundamentally  the same with driver and irons, and I hit both reasonably well.

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