Jump to content
IGNORED

Risk reward hole with no forced carry?


MS256
Note: This thread is 3604 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

I'm with Phil. That's stupid.


All of us agree but we didn't build the course.

Maddest my son ever was on a golf course was the first time we played that hole after the OB stakes were put up. I forgot to tell him and he hit it way down past the loop in the cart path.

I felt terrible for forgetting to tell him and he was madder than a hornet when I told him he was OB. He hasn't hit a driver on the hole since.

Link to comment
Share on other sites


I'd probably sneak onto the course the night before and steal all the OB stakes. I can hit it over or into those trees on the left and still have a short wedge over anything in the way. But with the OB, I'd have to hit like a pair of short irons. Eff that.

In all honesty this hole's more fun as a par 3 from the ladies tees. I'd probably hit a long iron off those rather than taking penalties. Or I'd just skip it a lot.

In My Bag:

Adams Super LS 9.5˚ driver, Aldila Phenom NL 65TX
Adams Super LS 15˚ fairway, Kusala black 72x
Adams Super LS 18˚ fairway, Aldila Rip'd NV 75TX
Adams Idea pro VST hybrid, 21˚, RIP Alpha 105x
Adams DHY 24˚, RIP Alpha 89x
5-PW Maltby TE irons, KBS C taper X, soft stepped once 130g
Mizuno T4, 54.9 KBS Wedge X
Mizuno R12 60.5, black nickel, KBS Wedge X
Odyssey Metal X #1 putter 
Bridgestone E5, Adidas samba bag, True Linkswear Stealth
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

The course designer has you hitting into a funnel. The farther into the landing area you go, the narrower the workspace. Funnel starts getting tight around the yellow line.

So, it depends on how well you're swinging that day whether it's driver or 3W.

The approach shot depends on how much backspin one generates on short irons. From 100 to 115 yards out - going uphill, which adds loft to the club - I would hit a 9i or 8i. I get modest backspin, so such a shot would get one check bounce, and hopefully release smoothly into the downslope.

If I'm not perfect, I would want to end up on the back fringe and chipping or putting uphill, rather than falling short and having to go uphill and then downhill. (In this sense, the hole resembles No. 3 at Augusta National, a 355-yard uphill par 4.)

Focus, connect and follow through!

  • Completed KBS Education Seminar (online, 2015)
  • GolfWorks Clubmaking AcademyFitting, Assembly & Repair School (2012)

Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
Ball:  image.png.f0ca9194546a61407ba38502672e5ecf.png QStar Tour - Divide  ||  Bag: :sunmountain: Three 5 stand bag

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I'd probably sneak onto the course the night before and steal all the OB stakes. I can hit it over or into those trees on the left and still have a short wedge over anything in the way. But with the OB, I'd have to hit like a pair of short irons. Eff that.

In all honesty this hole's more fun as a par 3 from the ladies tees. I'd probably hit a long iron off those rather than taking penalties. Or I'd just skip it a lot.


Nah, you would do just like we do. Dread the tee shot before you even get to it and breathe a sigh of relief when you hit the fairway. :-D

I only know two guys that are accurate enough with a driver to not worry about OB on that hole and I saw one of them hit it OB to the right last week.

(So there goes his confidence). LOL

Link to comment
Share on other sites


The course designer has you hitting into a funnel. The farther into the landing area you go, the narrower the workspace. Funnel starts getting tight around the yellow line.

So, it depends on how well you're swinging that day whether it's driver or 3W.

The approach shot depends on how much backspin one generates on short irons. From 100 to 115 yards out - going uphill, which adds loft to the club - I would hit a 9i or 8i. I get modest backspin, so such a shot would get one check bounce, and hopefully release smoothly into the downslope.

If I'm not perfect, I would want to end up on the back fringe and chipping or putting uphill, rather than falling short and having to go uphill and then downhill. (In this sense, the hole resembles No. 3 at Augusta National, a 355-yard uphill par 4.)

Loose use of that title.

Actually the guy that built the course didn't have enough land, knew little about what he was doing, but wanted to do it and gave it a shot.

I give him credit for having guts enough to try it and he probably did better with what he had to do it with than I could have done.

Just wish he would have been able to afford 40 more acres of land. ;-)

Link to comment
Share on other sites


Just wish he would have been able to afford 40 more acres of land.

Know what you mean. This is the major shortfall of "do it yourself" courses in Missouri and Illinois.

Focus, connect and follow through!

  • Completed KBS Education Seminar (online, 2015)
  • GolfWorks Clubmaking AcademyFitting, Assembly & Repair School (2012)

Driver:  :touredge: EXS 10.5°, weights neutral   ||  FWs:  :callaway: Rogue 4W + 7W
Hybrid:  :callaway: Big Bertha OS 4H at 22°  ||  Irons:  :callaway: Mavrik MAX 5i-PW
Wedges:  :callaway: MD3: 48°, 54°... MD4: 58° ||  Putter:image.png.b6c3447dddf0df25e482bf21abf775ae.pngInertial NM SL-583F, 34"  
Ball:  image.png.f0ca9194546a61407ba38502672e5ecf.png QStar Tour - Divide  ||  Bag: :sunmountain: Three 5 stand bag

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I'd go PW PW. Oh sorry thought I was on the "how far do you hit each club" thread. I feel better right now with a driver than any other club so if no slope on the fairway I am ripping it.

James

Link to comment
Share on other sites


  • Moderator
Why is left OB?-Thats the golf course too. Is this one of those stupid internal OBs that shitty course layouts are forced to use to "protect" people?

Thanks for this response!  Totally agree.  I think there was a rules questions a couple of years back that discussed this.  Most agreed that it was poor policy by the course.  I play a course occasionally with the same internal OB, but they make you play it as a lateral.  The card shows the local rule.

Two OB, one on either side, is just ridiculous.  This will really slow down play.

Scott

Titleist, Edel, Scotty Cameron Putter, Snell - AimPoint - Evolvr - MirrorVision

My Swing Thread

boogielicious - Adjective describing the perfect surf wave

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 3604 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.
  • Posts

    • Thanks for the feedback. @StuM, we are a "club without real estate" so no facilities or pro. We have a membership of around 185 players and we only play together as a group at our tournaments, which are held at public access courses. A group of us setup the tournaments, collect the money and dole out the prizes.
    • In general, granting free relief anywhere on the course isn't recommended.  Similarly, when marking GUR, the VSGA and MAPGA generally don't mark areas that are well away from the intended playing lines, no matter how poor the conditions.  If you hit it far enough offline, you don't necessarily deserve free relief.  And you don't have to damage clubs, take unplayable relief, take the stroke, and drop the ball in a better spot.
    • If it's not broken don't fix it. If you want to add grooves to it just because of looks that's your choice of course. Grooves are cut into putter faces to reduce skid, the roll faced putter is designed to do the same thing. I'm no expert but it seems counter productive to add grooves to the roll face. Maybe you can have it sand-blasted or something to clean up the face. Take a look at Tigers putter, its beat to hell but he still uses it.     
    • I get trying to limit relief to the fairway, but how many roots do you typically find in the fairway? Our local rule allows for relief from roots & rocks anywhere on the course (that is in play). My home course has quite a few 100 year old oaks that separate the fairways. Lift and move the ball no closer to the hole. None of us want to damage clubs.
    • Hello, I've been playing a Teardrop td17 F.C. putter for many years and love it. It still putts and feels as good or  better than any of the new putters I've tried and it's in excellent condition except the face has dings in it ever since I bought it used that kind of bother me. I was just wondering if it's possible to have some really shallow horizontal grooves milled into the face on a "roll face" putter. I think I would rather spend some money on it instead of trying to get used to a new putter.  Thanks
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...