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How Would You Play this hole?? (Hole 1 - Scarborough North Cliff, England)


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Bloody event got suspended before I got chance to tee off then got cancelled :(

is the event only paused or was it permanently cancelled? Sad to hear that I think that first hole would have been a nice experience. Not too hard of a beginning - no need for mulligans even psychologically, you can be more relaxed, because it's a safe hole, without evil water hazards :dance:

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is the event only paused or was it permanently cancelled? Sad to hear that I think that first hole would have been a nice experience. Not too hard of a beginning - no need for mulligans even psychologically, you can be more relaxed, because it's a safe hole, without evil water hazards

It got suspended then they cancelled event for the day to be replayed in a couple of weeks time.

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I'd probably play my fade with an easy driver shot, and pitch on... well, that would be the plan.  I'd end up in the bunker or rough, overshoot the green, chip on, and 3 putt.

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I am playing in a rabbits (16-28 handicap) event tomorrow and the course we are playing at has an easy first hole, The hole itself is a straight forward very short par 4, there is out of bounds on right and 20 yards off back of green, the rough is not too bad and the only bunker which is a pain is the one at 188 yards. The tee box is down in elevation around 15-20 ft so cant see the green from the tee box and on the right of the hole is the beach and sea line.

normally I just hit a 6i off the tee and play it as a short par 4. Now this works fine but after reading through the other "how would you play it?" threads I am trying to look at my game a little different. On the other thread somebody mention if it was labelled as a par 3 people would go for green every time without thinking and hes dead right. So ignoring that this is a par 4 and thinking its a long reachable par 3 I would be hitting my driver going for green every time, still not sure if its the correct way to play it.

My Club Yardages

Driver - 240-250

3W - 220-225

3H - 195

4i - 185

5i - 175

6i - 165

7i - 155

8i - 140

9i - 130

PW - 120

52d - 100

58d - 80


Just noticed that the distance makings on the hole appear to be meters since the actual hole measures 274 "YARDS" the markings appear meters then, I'm going to assume it's about 245 yard carry over the bunker on the right add the uphill factor and I would say it's closer to 270 carry. One of the last places anyone wants to be is in a bunker 30-40 yards from the green on a easy hole like this, after considering these different distances I think 3 wood would leave me just short of that bunker with a 50 yard pitch shot that I'm a lot more comfortable with than a 40 yard bunker shot.

Rich C.

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3 Wood TM RBZ stage 2 tour  14.5*
2 Hybrid Cobra baffler 17*
4Hybrid Adams 23*
Irons Adams CB2's 5-GW
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Just noticed that the distance makings on the hole appear to be meters since the actual hole measures 274 "YARDS" the markings appear meters then, I'm going to assume it's about 245 yard carry over the bunker on the right add the uphill factor and I would say it's closer to 270 carry. One of the last places anyone wants to be is in a bunker 30-40 yards from the green on a easy hole like this, after considering these different distances I think 3 wood would leave me just short of that bunker with a 50 yard pitch shot that I'm a lot more comfortable with than a 40 yard bunker shot.

Nah the distance markings are in yards, the hole information was taken from there scorecard which claimed it was 274 yards guess thats when tee's are right back.

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It really depends on strengths.   Play up to whatever yardage you are comfortable hitting into the green.   For example I'm good at hittings shots around the 80 yard range so i'd probably hit a 7 iron about 185 and hit a 3/4 56 into the green.

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