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Want to Upgrade Irons from Callaway X12 Pro

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Hello all;

Opinions wanted

I am playing Callaway x12 pro - uniflex.

Consistent striker of the ball with irons, issue is more about tempo and not getting "through" the ball on occasion. (Pushes)

9 iron 150-155yds

Handicap: 14-15 Mostly inconsistent off the tee and putting (of course)

I play about 3 times a month

Want to get new irons and take advantage of technology a little bit. At least get something from this century. :)

Really like Wilson's new line. C100 or D100.

Questions are:

1) Is stiff steel right for me? My "break" is pretty harsh. I believe my ball flight is medium and low with a 4.

2) Should I graduate to something like the C100 or should I still use full game improvement irons like the D100? I would like to learn to work the ball a little and I am aware enough to know when I hit it off the toe/heel. In the end I just want lower scores.

Thanks!

Don

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Hello all;

Opinions wanted

I am playing Callaway x12 pro - uniflex.

Consistent striker of the ball with irons, issue is more about tempo and not getting "through" the ball on occasion. (Pushes)

9 iron 150-155yds

Handicap: 14-15 Mostly inconsistent off the tee and putting (of course)

I play about 3 times a month

Want to get new irons and take advantage of technology a little bit. At least get something from this century. :)

Really like Wilson's new line. C100 or D100.

Questions are:

1) Is stiff steel right for me? My "break" is pretty harsh. I believe my ball flight is medium and low with a 4.

2) Should I graduate to something like the C100 or should I still use full game improvement irons like the D100? I would like to learn to work the ball a little and I am aware enough to know when I hit it off the toe/heel. In the end I just want lower scores.

Thanks!

Don


Welcome to TST.

If you hit 9i 150-155 yards, stiff steel is probably good for you. IDK enough about the Wilson's to give you any opinion.

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Get the new Callaway Apex irons, they are simply outstanding. I just got them about a month ago, and they feel like butter, and I hit them more consistently. I'm about the same handicap as you.

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All thanks for the replies.

Callaway Apex is a grand. A wee bit out of my price range. I might consider the RazR which I hear are nice as well.

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All thanks for the replies.

Callaway Apex is a grand. A wee bit out of my price range. I might consider the RazR which I hear are nice as well.

I just tried out the Cobra BioCell irons. They hit pretty well on the simulator, maybe a little too well. In any case, they are on sale at Golfsmith for about $375 for steel shafted regular/stiff 85 gm for 4-PW, GW.

Alternatively, you can get the 3 and 4 hybrids, 5-PW for around $445.

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Lihu:

Yea I have been considering those as well. I need to get some info from a launch monitor to truly answer my questions I think.

The price on those and the Wilson's have come down.

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Lihu:

Yea I have been considering those as well. I need to get some info from a launch monitor to truly answer my questions I think.

The price on those and the Wilson's have come down.

@hacker101 just got some, and really likes them.

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@hacker101 just got some, and really likes them.

My son got them first after hitting everything in RD, it came down to the Apex that he really liked and I would have spent the money on or the Cobra Bio Cell. At the end of the day and spending about and hour or two on the monitor it came down to the Cobra. About 3 yards more average and better grouping. I can say that they want to go straight and they have a high launch with the 85 shaft on them, they come off the face hot but that is most of the new clubs. The look at address is nice the back you get used to and look better then in the pictures.

They have shaft, lie and grip options as well as you can change the configuration of the set  when you order at RD, and you get a 90 day play, bring back if you don't like them.

My son had them in reg flex but has taken them back for stiff, they are on order with a different grip he wanted. I was able to play them a little in PS this past weekend , I liked them so I ordered a set with 4, 5 hybrid, 6-lob. I only have a loner set that I took to the range yesterday. I can say they swing nice are a little light or feel light not sure, holding them to other clubs they all feel about the same?

But that also seems to be more across the board with all the new GI irons,

I don't know if one brand is better then any others at this time so I would think it comes down to what you like. All the brands seem to have a really great iron out, all seem to have a hot face other then Ping and Mizuno, again in MHO and all have the lofts jacked up a bit. Talking with Lihu last night I don't see this as a bad thing some may but it comes down to how you control your irons as I see it.  Again coming from an 18 HCP person take it for what it is worth.

Will my son still opt to get the Apex not sure at this point but he has 90 days to make up his mind.

Good luck with what ever you find I am sure you find what you like.

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Thank you everyone for the responses. I am going to go to Golfdom in Va and try the Wilson c100 and maybe even the D100's there. They have a fitting cart for Wilson which I was happy to hear. I will kick the tires on the Bio's as well. The Apex are a bit out of my price range so I don't even wanna be tempted LOL

I just wonder if I am ready for a mid-handicap iron. I do think my ball striking is good enough to play them.

Don

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Thank you everyone for the responses. I am going to go to Golfdom in Va and try the Wilson c100 and maybe even the D100's there. They have a fitting cart for Wilson which I was happy to hear. I will kick the tires on the Bio's as well. The Apex are a bit out of my price range so I don't even wanna be tempted LOL

I just wonder if I am ready for a mid-handicap iron. I do think my ball striking is good enough to play them.

Don

They are really sweet, and the price is coming down according to some of the salesmen.

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Does anyone know the spec's on the True Temper CL100 steel shafts? I couldn't find them anywhere. Is this shaft something Wilson is getting from TT and calling it their own name? I can't find ANY info on them.

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The D100 irons will probably feel closer to your X12 irons. I have the D100s and find that I can work them left or right. I demo'd the C100s and they are a solid set too. The two sets are different enough so that you will know which feels better to you.
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Thanks everyone for all the assistance!

WOW is all I can say.

I hit the Wilson c100, Callaway Apex, and the Cobra Bio Cell irons today. For me, they were all FAR better than my X-12 Pro's. Shot dispersion and distance were insanely better. Feel was very similar.

My Mini review for anyone that cares :)

X-12: Hit 6 iron 5 times on the monitor - Shot dispersion decent, between 80-86 swing speed. Farthest ball 189

Apex, Solid feel and good distance. I did like them a lot but for the price and the fact that they were a close 2nd, not worth it for me. Farthest 6 iron 214 yards.

Wilson C100. Solid feel and good distance. Club more end heavy which I liked. For me, I wasn't as consistent with it as the other 2. I am not sure why. I guess it just didn't fit my swing as well. Did manage to hit one 209 yards though.

Cobra Bio. Great, no incredible, distance and shot dispersion. Feel was firm but felt like I ripped right through the ball. I hit 20 balls. I crushed 6-7 of them 215 yards!  I even hit a few fat just to see and they were 180+ yards. I couldn't believe the difference between them and my x-12's. Swing speed was in the 90's consistently.

Cobra won for me hands down. All 3 were great to hit and night day over my x12 pro's. I almost bought the Wilson's, glad I hit the Cobra's. Although the Wilson's, wouldn't have been a bad club.

Thank you to you guys here, for having me take a look at the Cobra's!

Don

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Thanks everyone for all the assistance!

WOW is all I can say.

I hit the Wilson c100, Callaway Apex, and the Cobra Bio Cell irons today. For me, they were all FAR better than my X-12 Pro's. Shot dispersion and distance were insanely better. Feel was very similar.

My Mini review for anyone that cares :)

X-12: Hit 6 iron 5 times on the monitor - Shot dispersion decent, between 80-86 swing speed. Farthest ball 189

Apex, Solid feel and good distance. I did like them a lot but for the price and the fact that they were a close 2nd, not worth it for me. Farthest 6 iron 214 yards.

Wilson C100. Solid feel and good distance. Club more end heavy which I liked. For me, I wasn't as consistent with it as the other 2. I am not sure why. I guess it just didn't fit my swing as well. Did manage to hit one 209 yards though.

Cobra Bio. Great, no incredible, distance and shot dispersion. Feel was firm but felt like I ripped right through the ball. I hit 20 balls. I crushed 6-7 of them 215 yards!  I even hit a few fat just to see and they were 180+ yards. I couldn't believe the difference between them and my x-12's. Swing speed was in the 90's consistently.

Cobra won for me hands down. All 3 were great to hit and night day over my x12 pro's. I almost bought the Wilson's, glad I hit the Cobra's. Although the Wilson's, wouldn't have been a bad club.

Thank you to you guys here, for having me take a look at the Cobra's!

Don

Happy you liked them, to me they are a sleeper iron. No one really goes in to try them but all I have read and everyone that does give them a try have liked them.

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I have gamed the Cobra Bio Cell irons for three months now.....bottom line....they are awesome! I have them in Blue with Blue grip and Dynalite 85 Stiff steel shafts.....Yes that's right...I said Stiff. For some reason, I hit the stiff better than the regular shafts. Been playing regular graphite for 15 years and now I am hitting stiff steel!
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Good to hear! I am anxious to get mine. Waiting on shipping lol

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This is the first set of irons I have had in 10 years where I can hit the 4 iron 175 yes with confidence
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