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John Feinstein and Tiger Woods

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Just a little "master thread" for this topic - the two men and their distaste for one another.

John's been, frankly, a feminine product about Tiger for years now.

This continues: http://feinstein.radio.cbssports.com/2014/06/25/john-feinstein-blog-tiger-woods-never-a-truly-happy-person/ .

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Typical Feinstein-on-Tiger.

Full of guesses, and continuing to grind the same old axe. The fact that half of your article was spent talking about THAT - why so many people feel you have some a grudge against the topic of your piece - and not about Tiger himself demonstrates this quite well.

You once got awfully pissy about Tiger having Phil putt out before him at Pebble Beach on your personal (now vanished) blog, robbing Phil of the spotlight for his victory or something. Yet when several of your facts were shown to be blatantly wrong (that Charlie Wi was still on the course and was capable of winning the tournament [i.e. Phil hadn't won yet] and perhaps even more importantly that Phil *asked* Tiger if he could putt out, among them), you had nothing to say. No retraction. No "oops, I let my hatred for Tiger get the best of me again." Not a peep. It was yet another one of your typical "Feinstein hates Tiger" columns. Just like this one.

I'm sure you've likely never seen him hanging around at his home with his children. Spending quality time with his dad prior to his passing. Or on vacation with Elin, or Lindsey, or any of his friends.

No, you are speculating and basing your "insight" based on how you THINK he feels while he's at his JOB. Additionally, when he sees YOU, I imagine his mood sours just a bit.

Justifiably.

I hate when Golf Channel brings Feinstein on. He offers little to no insight, and always has the bubbling under "Tiger sucks" feeling, that occasionally boils over.

I don't know "who started it" or why it continues, but I just really get pretty disgusted with Feinstein's behavior.

Read that article. Seriously, what's the ****ing point? Half of the time he's talking about Tiger fans trying to figure out why he hates Tiger. Cripes.

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While he said he is not riding on Tiger's back for money or "being noticed"; in fact, he is with this article ... he knows he will get a reaction it will greatly increase the number of readers of his article ...

I think in the forum world we call people like Feinstein trolls ...

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Feinstein is a great a writer, clearly early on in tigers career they had a disagreement, call it a slight, a diss. They are both stubborn enough to carry it thru. feinstein and rightfully so is not going to pump up tigers tires. and tiger will continue to give the bare minimum to anyone in the press- unless there is an advantage to him or monetary. As a result only Feinsteins version of what exactly happen is out there. he eludes to it in one of his books..." The majors" ( great read by the way) Just the way it is and will be, especially between these two.
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I think Feinstein is a going where the money is now. He knows writing about Tiger is going to bring people to whatever he writes, and I think he has not liked Tiger from the very beginning. So because he needs to write about golf (that is his job) so he MUST write about Tiger and so the article is bound to be a negative piece about Tiger. Tiger is still the biggest draw in golf, by orders of magnitude so to stay relevant he has to write about him, and his personal distaste shows.

Currently picking on Tiger is a pretty easy task. Since the incident he has won, but not a major, now the back, so he is not in the spotlight for what he used to be in the spotlight for.

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Feinstein is a troll. I think that about says it, yeah.
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If we could isolate the gene where we react to meaningless pieces and opinions that are meant to evoke, so many people would be unemployed.
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John Feinstein Blog: Tiger Woods Never A Truly Happy Person

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My problem with him is that he just has no objectivity, and he won't admit it. [quote name="Spitfisher" url="/t/75452/john-feinstein-and-tiger-woods/0_30#post_1011571"] Feinstein is a great a writer, clearly early on in tigers career they had a disagreement, call it a slight, a diss. They are both stubborn enough to carry it thru. feinstein and rightfully so is not going to pump up tigers tires. and tiger will continue to give the bare minimum to anyone in the press- unless there is an advantage to him or monetary. As a result only Feinsteins version of what exactly happen is out there. he eludes to it in one of his books..." The majors" ( great read by the way) Just the way it is and will be, especially between these two.[/quote] I wouldn't necessarily say that. He gets good access and he's fine at outlining a story, but he's not an amazing writer. He picks good, undervalued topics, but he's not a world-beating storyteller.
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Never been a big fan of Feinstein. I like Bob Harig....actually worked with Bob a while back and his articles and insight are very good. Rosaforte is good some of the time....other times he bores me to death.
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Feinstein?  Ugh.  Frickin' Dookie.

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You know what, as a Tiger fan, I'm not even mad at Feinstein. His opinion is worth exactly what I paid for it. Nothing. He does what he needs to do to survive, and what better time to push out this piece than Tiger's first event back.

I'm not even sure if I'd like Tiger as a person if I got to know him, but I think I'm smart enough to not make silly comments about a man I don't know. They say everyone is entitled to their opinions, but that doesn't make it any less moronic.

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Hell hath no fury like an author spurned

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I've been in Feinstein's presence several times in various media rooms. I'm at least 90 percent convinced he's an a-hole.

Woods has been in some of those same places at the same times, but only to speak from a dais. I think he's also at least somewhat of an a-hole, but my confidence percentage wouldn't be nearly as high because I've only viewed him up close from that single, narrow perspective. Everything else comes via media of one type or another.

The issues between them go back to the very start of Woods' career, and I'm pretty certain the initial conflict was between Feinstein and Earl Woods.

The fact that these two egomaniacs detest each other and have zero inclination to bury any hatchets is not the least bit surprising.

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Wow in one breath he says he dosen't know Tiger but claims the reason Tiger dosen't trust anyone becasue his dad cheated on his mom for years? WHAT THE HELL BRO???? :naughty: You dont throw another man under the bus like that.
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Feinstein is a great a writer

Wow........I know it is off-topic, but the man is NOT a great writer....had some good ideas and found a few good stories to tell...but saying Feinstein is great writer to me is like saying Sly Stallone is a great actor...

Feinstein is certainly a douche....

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Wow........I know it is off-topic, but the man is NOT a great writer....had some good ideas and found a few good stories to tell...but saying Feinstein is great writer to me is like saying Sly Stallone is a great actor... Feinstein is certainly a douche....

QFT. I have a pile of his books, my favorite is "A Caddy for Life", they're fine for what they are but calling him a "great writer" is an insult to great writers. John Irving is a great writer, Michael Chabon is a great writer, Wallace Stegner and James Michener are a great writers. John Feinstien is an "adequate" writer, no more and no less. He doesn't make spelling mistakes. If you believe him to be a "great writer" I lament your lack of exposure to great writing.

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