Jump to content
IGNORED

Thoughts on Ray Rice getting (only) a 2 game suspension


MS256
Note: This thread is 3499 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

I had not seen the video yet. Is this the whole thing? I really cannot tell what he is doing. Could be a drunk woman he is trying to get back to his hotel. I have heard on the radio that he beat her, but not followed the story much.

If the allegations are true regarding domestic violence then he should be suspended longer. If this is the only evidence then it is hard to say that it should be for more.

Michael

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Agree that men should not be roughing up women for any reason. Then again this lady married Rice after he slapped her unconscious. Perhaps the NFL took the "after the fact" marriage into consideration for it's punishment.

The bigger problem I see with this is that Rice will not be facing any jail time. IMO the guy should have been locked up for a month or more. Again, maybe the NFL had considered that Rice will not serve any jail time in their punishment. The lack of jail time also says that the Atlantic City 's legal system has some twisted views about domestic violence.

In My Bag:
A whole bunch of Tour Edge golf stuff...... :beer:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

How about nobody hit anybody? Im in NO way excusing what Ray Rice did but there are women out there that think it's ok to hit their men then cry "Im a female" when the man hits back. I could post another infamous elevator incident of Beyone's sister trying to beat and kick the crap out of Jay-Z. (Who did nothing in retaliation) But with that said he should've gotten way more than two games........way more.

Ron :nike: GOLF Embracing my Angry Black Male :mad:

Link to comment
Share on other sites


An absolute abomination!

In David's bag....

Driver: Titleist 910 D-3;  9.5* Diamana Kai'li
3-Wood: Titleist 910F;  15* Diamana Kai'li
Hybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'li
Irons: Titleist 695cb 5-Pw

Wedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's;  56-14 F grind and 60-11 K grind
Putter: Scotty Cameron Kombi S
Ball: ProV1

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

It's just weird considering Goodell's history of imposing punishment and his public stance around cleaning up the game. Something very odd about it.

In my Bag: Driver: Titelist 913 D3 9.5 deg. 3W: TaylorMade RBZ 14.5 3H: TaylorMade RBZ 18.5 4I - SW: TaylorMade R7 TP LW: Titelist Vokey 60 Putter: Odyssey 2-Ball

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I don't have a very strong opinion on this because I don't know much about it.  I don't know the circumstances of the situation (and that video shows nothing) and I also don't know the results of the meeting with Goodell.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

I don't have a very strong opinion on this because I don't know much about it.  I don't know the circumstances of the situation (and that video shows nothing) and I also don't know the results of the meeting with Goodell.

He punched his wife unconscious in an Atlantic City casino. That video you see in the OP was what was released to the public. The video of him actually punching his wife is in police custody and has not been made public (allegedly).

That video is of him dragging her around after the fact.

Hmmmm, Josh Gordon gets 16 games for smoking weed twice and Rice got two games. Guess that means smoking weed is eight times worse than beating your wife. Interesting moral compass, NFL.

  • Upvote 2

Constantine

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

The video proves nothing, it shows him carrying her out of an elevator.  Basically it was his word against hers, and in this day and age, the courts always side with the woman.

The fact she married the guy tells me she either provoked him or what he did wasn't as bad as she originally claimed.  I'm completely against domestic violence but I'm also against people being falsely accused of things by vengeful spouses or partners.   If there was video of him punching her in the face, then he should be sitting in jail and we wouldn't be debating the suspension.

  • Upvote 1

Joe Paradiso

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Apparently dragging the bitch around is OK ...

Note: I know better than to comment ... I have zero tolerance for this type of behavior ... period

Ken Proud member of the iSuk Golf Association ... Sponsored by roofing companies across the US, Canada, and the UK

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Apparently dragging the bitch around is OK ...

Note: I know better than to comment ... I have zero tolerance for this type of behavior ... period

I don't either, but if she passed out he'd have dragged her to.  What would you have preferred, he leave her in the elevator?

Joe Paradiso

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Screw suspensions, how about jail time. Who the **** is the NFL to be ruling on this? It's a criminal act not a sporting infraction.

Of course, that's assuming it (punching her out) actually happened and isn't just rumour.

Yours in earnest, Jason.
Call me Ernest, or EJ or Ernie.

PSA - "If you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!"

My Whackin' Sticks: :cleveland: 330cc 2003 Launcher 10.5*  :tmade: RBZ HL 3w  :nickent: 3DX DC 3H, 3DX RC 4H  :callaway: X-22 5-AW  :nike:SV tour 56* SW :mizuno: MP-T11 60* LW :bridgestone: customized TD-03 putter :tmade:Penta TP3   :aimpoint:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

It's a casino. The eye in the sky misses nothing except what goes in your hotel room (hopefully). If they didn't have video of it, they'd probably say that, and it didn't happen. But everyone seems to agree that there is video, it's just not public.

I just think it's funny Terrell Pryor got five games for getting some free tattoos and money for autographs while at OSU and Rice only got two games for this. And Josh Gordon is done for the year for getting caught smoking pot twice.

Constantine

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

It's a casino. The eye in the sky misses nothing except what goes in your hotel room (hopefully). If they didn't have video of it, they'd probably say that, and it didn't happen. But everyone seems to agree that there is video, it's just not public.

I just think it's funny Terrell Pryor got five games for getting some free tattoos and money for autographs while at OSU and Rice only got two games for this. And Josh Gordon is done for the year for getting caught smoking pot twice.

None of the video I've seen showed an in-elevator perspective so if there was one, none of that video was made public. Also if the video showed Rice punching her in the face hard enough to knock her out I'd think he'd be in jail.  Let's make sure we get all the facts right before we convict the guy of something he didn't do.

Joe Paradiso

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

FWIW, Rice was indicted back in March, pleaded not guilty, and was accepted into a diversionary program for first-time offenders to avoid a trial. Even the guilty plea that prosecutors offered him would have just been a year of probation and no jail time. The wife wasn't participating with prosecutors, which complicates things somewhat, even if they have the whole thing on video.
  • Upvote 1

In my bag:

Driver: Titleist TSi3 | 15º 3-Wood: Ping G410 | 17º 2-Hybrid: Ping G410 | 19º 3-Iron: TaylorMade GAPR Lo |4-PW Irons: Nike VR Pro Combo | 54º SW, 60º LW: Titleist Vokey SM8 | Putter: Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H7

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

None of the video I've seen showed an in-elevator perspective so if there was one, none of that video was made public. Also if the video showed Rice punching her in the face hard enough to knock her out I'd think he'd be in jail.  Let's make sure we get all the facts right before we convict the guy of something he didn't do.

Yes, but you also have to be careful of coming to conclusions based on wild assumptions: "The fact she married the guy tells me she either provoked him or what he did wasn't as bad as she originally claimed." Based on the fact that we see stories all the time about women who stay with guys that beat them, this sentence makes no sense.

Also, I'm having a hard time finding any "I didn't do it" type stuff in that article or in a search on google.  It's a little bit easier to jump to the conclusion that it probably did happen, then, since it appears that there is nobody out there, Rice included, from what I can('t) find, suggesting otherwise.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Yes, but you also have to be careful of coming to conclusions based on wild assumptions:  "The fact she married the guy tells me she either provoked him or what he did wasn't as bad as she originally claimed."  Based on the fact that we see stories all the time about women who stay with guys that beat them, this sentence makes no sense.

Also, I'm having a hard time finding any "I didn't do it" type stuff in that article or in a search on google.  It's a little bit easier to jump to the conclusion that it probably did happen, then, since it appears that there is nobody out there, Rice included, from what I can('t) find, suggesting otherwise.

Okay, I'll agree but I don't think they are wild assumptions, conversely some are suggesting he should be suspended longer but are doing so based on assumptions.

Here are the facts as I know them, there isn't any public video of him hitting her, she refused to cooperate with police, she married him, he spent time in a diversionary program but wasn't convicted of assault or domestic violence and didn't go to jail.

Would you expect to be suspended from your job and lose 1/8th or more of your annual salary based on the above circumstances?

Joe Paradiso

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Awards, Achievements, and Accolades

Note: This thread is 3499 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up
  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.
  • Posts

    • I've played Bali Hai, Bear's Best and Painted Desert. I enjoyed Bali Hai the most--course was in great shape, friendly staff and got paired in a great group. Bear's Best greens were very fast, didn't hold the ball well (I normally have enough spin to stop the ball after 1-2 hops).  The sand was different on many holes. Some were even dark sand (recreation of holes from Hawaii). Unfortunately I was single and paired with a local "member" who only played the front 9.  We were stuck behind a slow 4-some who wouldn't let me through even when the local left. Painted Desert was decent, just a bit far from the Strip where we were staying.
    • Wordle 1,035 3/6 ⬜🟨🟨🟩⬜ 🟨🟨🟩🟩🟩 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩 Just lipped out that Eagle putt, easy tab-in Birdie
    • Day 106 - Worked on chipping/pitching. Focus was feeling the club fall to the ground as my body rotated through. 
    • Honestly, unless there's something about that rough there that makes it abnormally penal or a lost ball likely, this might be the play. I don't know how the mystrategy cone works, but per LSW, you don't use every shot for your shot zones. In that scatter plot, you have no balls in the bunker, and 1 in the penalty area. The median outcome seems to be a 50 yard pitch. Even if you aren't great from 50 yards, you're better off there than in a fairway bunker or the penalty area on the right of the fairway. It could also be a strategy you keep in your back pocket if you need to make up ground. Maybe this is a higher average score with driver, but better chance at a birdie. Maybe you are hitting your driver well and feel comfortable with letting one rip.  I get not wanting to wait and not wanting to endanger people on the tee, but in a tournament, I think I value playing for score more than waiting. I don't value that over hurting people, but you can always yell fore 😆 Only thing I would say is I'm not sure whether that cone is the best representation of the strategy (see my comment above about LSW's shot zones). To me, it looks like a 4 iron where you're aiming closer to the bunker might be the play. You have a lot of shots out to the right and only a few to the left. Obviously, I don't know where you are aiming (and this is a limitation of MyStrategy), but it seems like most of your 4 iron shots are right. You have 2 in the bunker but aiming a bit closer to the bunker won't bring more of your shots into the bunker. It does bring a few away from the penalty area on the right.  This could also depend on how severe the penalties are for missing the green. Do you need to be closer to avoid issues around the green?  It's not a bad strategy to hit 6 iron off the tee, be in the fairway, and have 150ish in. I'm probably overthinking this.
    • Day 283: Putted on my mat for a while watching an NLU video. Worked on keeping my head still primarily, and then making sure my bead is okay.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...