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I do tend to classify people as more pendulum or driving, which is similar, but basically people who "drive" the putter tend to favor weight in the grip or high up in the shaft.

Interesting distinction on putting styles.

I am a definitely a "drive" type putter. I was always manageable inside of 15 feet, but struggle a ton on distance putts before getting my Edel.

One thing I do have to watch is making a long enough backstroke for longer putts. I'd rather take a longer backstroke and slow it down by feel versus take a short one and try to drive the putt 60 feet across the green.

Unless someone actually finds a putter at a retail store that fits them. I think Edel putters are the way to go. Their fitting process is 2nd to none. They make great putters. Honestly, I wouldn't exchange my putter for any putter, except maybe another Edel fitted for me ;)

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Does anyone use the variable-weight and change them based on green speed?

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Since I've filled every spot in my bag with a custom fit club outside of my wedges *I pseudo count my 5w because even though it was used and cheap I tried multiple other clubs using flightscope before choosing it* my next purchase will either be wedges or a putter. Just the extreme price of both of those make it hard for me to pull the trigger. The only high dollar purchase I've made has been my irons, everything else has been 200 or less. I know that what you get for the price is worth it, but it's just the idea of paying so much for a putter and 3 wedges is very daunting. Unless I'm guessing wrong, those 4 clubs would probably cost as much as my just about all my other clubs combined.

KICK THE FLIP!!

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Since I've filled every spot in my bag with a custom fit club outside of my wedges *I pseudo count my 5w because even though it was used and cheap I tried multiple other clubs using flightscope before choosing it* my next purchase will either be wedges or a putter. Just the extreme price of both of those make it hard for me to pull the trigger. The only high dollar purchase I've made has been my irons, everything else has been 200 or less. I know that what you get for the price is worth it, but it's just the idea of paying so much for a putter and 3 wedges is very daunting. Unless I'm guessing wrong, those 4 clubs would probably cost as much as my just about all my other clubs combined.

I think the important thing to remember is, you're going to replace all of your other clubs at least a few more times in your lifetime. This putter you buy once. I'm getting one as soon as I save up enough cash for it (or whenever I find a buyer for my bass guitar).

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Does anyone use the variable-weight and change them based on green speed?

Heh.

I bought a Vari-Weight… and have never changed the weights. Seems like too much trouble. :)

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I think the important thing to remember is, you're going to replace all of your other clubs at least a few more times in your lifetime. This putter you buy once.

I'm getting one as soon as I save up enough cash for it (or whenever I find a buyer for my bass guitar).

I think that's the thought process that will actually be what wins the internal debate I'm having. Though it's definitely not going to be anytime soon.

KICK THE FLIP!!

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:srixon: Z355

:callaway: XR16 3 Wood
:tmade: Aeroburner 19* 3 hybrid
:ping: I e1 irons 4-PW
:vokey: SM5 50, 60
:wilsonstaff: Harmonized Sole Grind 56 and Windy City Putter

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@iacas Erik, can you talk about the driver type putter? I worked on what I thought to be a more pendulum style stroke, and ended up getting a lot of weight put almost all the way to the top of the shaft. It made me feel like there was a pivot point in my hands and that the putter could swing around that spot like a pendulum. Is this an example of feel ain't real?

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Heh. I bought a Vari-Weight… and have never changed the weights. Seems like too much trouble. :)

Ditto ... sounded good at the time though.

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Thanks for the write up, Carrx. Saved me an hour of my life.

Ditto. I went Tuesday night. The only big difference was that my result was a lot closer to the end of the spectrum that I probably wouldn't consider if I were buying the old fashioned way (aesthetics and hit a few at the golf shop). In other words, Matt's fitting made a big difference in getting me to consider something that will work for me but that I would likely have otherwise skipped. Also very impressed with Matt, everyone else I saw there (although mostly briefly), and the facility.

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Does anyone use the variable-weight and change them based on green speed?


When I used it, I did not change based on speed, but I wanted it hefty.

I now have an E-1.

And the vari-loft Rogue, no offset, sits lonely.

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Erik, can you talk about the driver type putter? I worked on what I thought to be a more pendulum style stroke, and ended up getting a lot of weight put almost all the way to the top of the shaft. It made me feel like there was a pivot point in my hands and that the putter could swing around that spot like a pendulum. Is this an example of feel ain't real?

"Driver" putters or "Linear" putters are said to use the hands pushing against the handle more so than the other type, which is that they let the clubhead rock back and forth a bit more. It's all kind of subjective and just describes "feels" because at the end of the day everyone moves the clubhead back and forth. You could almost consider it based on handle movement vs. clubhead movement, but… meh.

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Played my first full round ... I have to admit the biggest improvement and feeling difference was distance and control of that distance ... nothing even close to my old putter ... I am talking long 20ft+ putts ... even on the practice green I was so impressed ... I am a happy camper, the putter felt and rolled well today! Because of the top center line, I felt I hit my line more consistently and more confidently.

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"Driver" putters or "Linear" putters are said to use the hands pushing against the handle more so than the other type, which is that they let the clubhead rock back and forth a bit more. It's all kind of subjective and just describes "feels" because at the end of the day everyone moves the clubhead back and forth. You could almost consider it based on handle movement vs. clubhead movement, but… meh.

Ugh....I hope I'm not a complete failure at getting the putter to swing on a pendulum... I have found that my distance control is so much better. Plus it's pretty awesome not having to guess at where your putter is aimed. Amazed at how quickly the ball starts rolling...it used to fly through the air for 3 feet before rolling...

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Isukgolf, would you mind telling me who fit you for this putter?  I know this topic is old, but I read the whole topic and am going to get fitted. 

 

I feel like my putting is decent but weakness is definitely distance control.   I spoke at length w a fitter based in Gilbert AZ and he told me he has the system and was very gracious taking my questions. It sounds like he follows the outline Iacas laid out. Says it would take usually 1hr to 1:15. Done outside and he said I could putt as much as I want up and downhill and w breaks etc. The ONLY drawback I see is he doesn't have the torque putters. 

 

My other options are a guy at a PGATSS but I feel like that may not be ideal, and a fitter at Talking Stick that hasn't returned my call.

Any recs for my situation?  Part of me wants to just go w the guy in Gilbert, as I'm not too keen on the look of the torque line, but at this point I have some hesitation because I'm limiting my options by not having the chance to hit them. Does it really make much difference w classic vs torque?

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Paging @isukgolf so he'll see the above comment (and hopefully bring in suggestions!)

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2 hours ago, Goubli said:

Isukgolf, would you mind telling me who fit you for this putter?  I know this topic is old, but I read the whole topic and am going to get fitted. 

 

I feel like my putting is decent but weakness is definitely distance control.   I spoke at length w a fitter based in Gilbert AZ and he told me he has the system and was very gracious taking my questions. It sounds like he follows the outline Iacas laid out. Says it would take usually 1hr to 1:15. Done outside and he said I could putt as much as I want up and downhill and w breaks etc. The ONLY drawback I see is he doesn't have the torque putters. 

 

My other options are a guy at a PGATSS but I feel like that may not be ideal, and a fitter at Talking Stick that hasn't returned my call.

Any recs for my situation?  Part of me wants to just go w the guy in Gilbert, as I'm not too keen on the look of the torque line, but at this point I have some hesitation because I'm limiting my options by not having the chance to hit them. Does it really make much difference w classic vs torque?

I used the guy in Gilbert, Mark Secrest.  He met me at the Biltmore golf course for my fitting.  He did a great job.  I just looked at the Edel site, and the PGATSS was not an option last year.  The other gentleman at talking stick was really nice, but at the time of my fitting, he did not use the Edel putter fitting system.  I.E. no mirror etc ... he simply asked question and watched me putt .

Getting fitted for the Edel was one of my better golf purchase decisions.  

Good luck!

(Thanks @Shindig for the PM) 

  

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Thanks for responses!

while I was waiting for replies I actually got on the phone w Michael at talking stick and he said he doesn't use a laser bc everything is outdoors and not perfectly flat etc. He also said he only has the torque putters and that the old fitting system isn't really used bc the torque putters are better. He said that the fitting was an hr and he goes over aim point, green reading etc. He did seem very knowledgable, but it seems like he left out perhaps some key components outlined in the OP. 

 

He did say he fits edel wedges and I probably will look into that in the future as I'd like to have some custom wedges. 

 

The downside to Mark appears to be no torque putter option (although I much prefer the look of the older style) and the issue his fitting cost doesn't go towards the putter purchase. 

I may may go to the pga store and feel them out now and see what's up. 

Is is there any opinion that the torque putters are superior?

thanks again guys!

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I can't speak to the torque question ... the classic fit is what appeals to me, and what I ended up with.

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