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Ernest Jones

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Just one thing to point out: despite marijuana being legalized in Colorado, I honestly haven't seen much difference. The only difference I've actually noticed is less conversation in high school hallways about trying to get a medical pot card (which they don't need) so they can smoke it.
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Still not sure why you're so hung up on the classification. If rehabilitation is what someone needs to stop taking EPO or deer antler spray or horse placenta, fine. Otherwise I'm not sure how it's rel

zipazoid
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I guess my point is, it doesn't really matter what you're "okay with" calling it. Call it a Purple Flying Panda if you want. Let's take alcohol. How many on this forum has ever ingested alcohol

Hammer 4
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Do you really think buying, selling and using coke is a Victim less crime...?   Better think again my friend. People get Murdered over such things, people get robbed, people die from over doses

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Just one thing to point out: despite marijuana being legalized in Colorado, I honestly haven't seen much difference. The only difference I've actually noticed is less conversation in high school hallways about trying to get a medical pot card (which they don't need) so they can smoke it.

You just don't understand that there is a serious glaucoma epidemic in high schools all around the world. 65% of high schoolers are stricken. Fact.

Riley

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You just don't understand that there is a serious glaucoma epidemic in high schools all around the world. 65% of high schoolers are stricken. Fact.

Yeah, and I'm certain that my school's starting quarterback with 20/20 vision is absolutely devastated by this. Good thing the coaches turn a blind eye to his treatment to allow him to recover in peace.

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RJH999 Great Member

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Yeah, and I'm certain that my school's starting quarterback with 20/20 vision is absolutely devastated by this. Good thing the coaches turn a blind eye to his treatment to allow him to recover in peace.

Hahaha, my schools QB is baked AF about 87% of the time. Quarterbacks are allowed legal weed use, it's the law!

Riley

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Oh we will!

Ya know, I thought you had good outlook on the subject there for awhile. Guess I was wrong.

Gonna go hit some balls, have a good night.

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RJH999 Great Member

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Ya know, I thought you had good outlook on the subject there for awhile. Guess I was wrong. Gonna go hit some balls, have a good night.

Jokes, my brotha jokes. Have a good evening sir.

Riley

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Interesting thread! I guess with all the discussion in the DJ thread it should have been expected that this thread would eventually get created! Just tagging along until I have time to post, I am anti drugs / alcohol and hate the way they destroy families and careers! I believe people make choices to consume them and continue to make choices to consume them even to their own demise!

:adams: / :tmade: / :edel: / :aimpoint: / :ecco: / :bushnell: / :gamegolf: / 

Eyad

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Grndslmhttr3 Great Member

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I am anti drugs / alcohol and hate the way they destroy families and careers!

Out of curiosity, how old are you? There are lots of different kinds of drugs, some of which are far more destructive than others. Moderation is the key; as Ernest Jones mentioned, plenty of people do drugs such as coke and live a perfectly fine lifestyle. If you're dumb enough to do it when you're about to get drug tested for your job, then it's your fault if you get fired, not the drug's.

This whole thing is just the tip of the iceberg.

Once the stoners get their way and make pot semi-legal, coke will be the next step. Will the pro-druggies be advocating legal heroin use at that point?

I highly doubt anything like that would happen.

-Rich

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MS256 Great Member

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Ya know, I thought you had good outlook on the subject there for awhile. Guess I was wrong.

Gonna go hit some balls, have a good night.

I can't wait until everybody can pick up a bag of cocaine (or whatever) every time they stop by the gas station. (Complete sarcasm).

There will be so many more people buying it and pushing it to underage kids it will make your head swim.

Entertaining thread though. Just glad I raised my kids when and where I did. The when was happenstance. The where was on purpose.

Just one thing to point out: despite marijuana being legalized in Colorado, I honestly haven't seen much difference. The only difference I've actually noticed is less conversation in high school hallways about trying to get a medical pot card (which they don't need) so they can smoke it.


Wait a minute. The big argument put forth by the crowd that wanted legalization was that it would have no effect on anybody under 21 because it would still be illegal for them (yeah right).

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I can respect, while disagreeing with, people who take the addiction is a disease position.

As I stated in an earlier post, you (or anyone) disagreeing that addiction is a disease doesn't make it not a disease. It's pretty much a proven fact. It has symptoms, manifestations, progression & treatment.

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As I stated in an earlier post, you (or anyone) disagreeing that addiction is a disease doesn't make it not a disease. It's pretty much a proven fact. It has symptoms, manifestations, progression & treatment.

But...it doesn't strike randomly. And the predisposition argument means that those with a propensity know even better to stay away.

DJ and every other addict made a choice to do something he knew was dangerous.

That's where they lose sympathy.

The first time he snorted cocaine he knew it was crazy. He knew it killed people . He knew it ruined careers and reputations.

I'm not going to have pity on him because it's self inflicted. I don't see him as a victim of anything but his own arrogance and stupidity.

In the race of life, always back self-interest. At least you know it's trying.

 

 

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But...it doesn't strike randomly. And the predisposition argument means that those with a propensity know even better to stay away.

DJ and every other addict made a choice to do something he knew was dangerous.

That's where they lose sympathy.

The first time he snorted cocaine he knew it was crazy. He knew it killed people . He knew it ruined careers and reputations.

I'm not going to have pity on him because it's self inflicted. I don't see him as a victim of anything but his own arrogance and stupidity.

Have sympathy or don't have sympathy. Have pity or don't have pity. It's irrelevant as to it being a disease.

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Have sympathy or don't have sympathy. It's irrelevant as to it being a disease.

It's a self inflicted disease, you don't randomly catch it from someone.  DJ made conscious decisions to mess with addictive drugs and got hooked.  If he never snorted coke in the first place he wouldn't have the "disease".

Joe Paradiso

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Shorty Super Member

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Have sympathy or don't have sympathy. It's irrelevant as to it being a disease.

No it isn't. The usual association with a disease is that it is something that unfairly and unfortunately afflicts an unwilling and helpless victim.

This fool chose to take cocaine. Despite a lifetime of knowing it is a killer.,

In the race of life, always back self-interest. At least you know it's trying.

 

 

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It's a self inflicted disease, you don't randomly catch it from someone.  DJ made conscious decisions to mess with addictive drugs and got hooked.  If he never snorted coke in the first place he wouldn't have the "disease".

Which is also irrelevant as to how he 'caught' it. He has it. That's the point. And it can be treated if he so chooses to do so.

Again, personal opinions as to the level of sympathy someone has for an addict, are just that. Opinions.

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No it isn't. The usual association with a disease is that it is something that unfairly and unfortunately afflicts an unwilling and helpless victim.

This fool chose to take cocaine. Despite a lifetime of knowing it is a killer.,

Care to cite a medical journal on that? Or are you making up a 'usual association' of a disease to make a point that flies in the face of a mountain of medical evidence?

Hey, people who eat a lot of sweets can get diabetes. Smokers can get lung cancer. Guess you would have no sympathy for them either?

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