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brood211

Getting instruction but not getting better

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At a loss now... Been a 85-95 shooter for 6+ years.. Decided to get pro help and have been getting lessons and practicing intently but not getting any better... I don't know what to do next...
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Maybe your instructor sucks.[quote name="brood211" url="/t/76453/getting-instruction-but-not-getting-better#post_1038348"]At a loss now... Been a 85-95 shooter for 6+ years.. Decided to get pro help and have been getting lessons and practicing intently but not getting any better... I don't know what to do next...[/quote] Seriously.-Do you know if hes any good? If so how?
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He is a top 100 teacher (if that means anything) ... Top for my state... And coaches a couple of touring pros... He has been coaching 25+ years... The main reason I chose him and pay the big $ for lessons is bc I was serious about improving
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How much are you practicing? Are you making sure (with video, mirror work, etc.) between lessons that you're doing the drills and changes right?
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Top 100 means very little.-Ditto teaching TOUR pros.[quote name="brood211" url="/t/76453/getting-instruction-but-not-getting-better#post_1038362"]He is a top 100 teacher (if that means anything) ... Top for my state... And coaches a couple of touring pros... He has been coaching 25+ years... The main reason I chose him and pay the big $ for lessons is bc I was serious about improving[/quote] How are you practicing? Who is it?
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Yes I have a high speed camera... FO and DTL mirrors ... And a good mat and net setup in the garage... I practice at least 2-3 times per week (intense) and do position movements in a mirror daily (no hitting balls)
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I practice by checking positions in a mirror (based off lessons and what I've learned) and hit balls 2 times per week or so... I'd rather not say his name bc I don't want it to seem I'm bashing him How would you suggest choosing a coach?... Bc the "accolades" was the only thing I could think of ranking someone on
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I'd rather not say his name bc I don't want it to seem I'm bashing him

Probably better that way, anyway. How long have you been taking these lessons? How many have you taken? What have you been working on? My suggestion to you is to start a MySwing thread, since you have videos.

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1 year.. 1-2 visits per month so around 15 Mostly backswing positions... The instruction changes lesson to lesson... Don't necessarily leave will drills to build on and see progress for next lesson
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Start a my swing thread, if you already do videos the you should have something to post. You'll get better feedback, also you can compare what you are being told to what the experts here see and that may give you insight as to why you aren't making the improvement you want.

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1 year.. 1-2 visits per month so around 15 Mostly backswing positions... The instruction changes lesson to lesson... Don't necessarily leave will drills to build on and see progress for next lesson

Wow, that's a lot. I'm surprised you don't get drills after your lessons, to ingrain and practice what you were taught. I'm also surprised that your instruction changes all the time. Is there an actual plan for your improvement? I would think that if you are seeing the same teacher that often, he would build you a long term plan of some kind. Are you really working on different things from lesson to lesson, or is he instructor just trying to teach you the same thing in different ways?

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Wow, that's a lot. I'm surprised you don't get drills after your lessons, to ingrain and practice what you were taught. I'm also surprised that your instruction changes all the time. Is there an actual plan for your improvement? I would think that if you are seeing the same teacher that often, he would build you a long term plan of some kind. Are you really working on different things from lesson to lesson, or is he instructor just trying to teach you the same thing in different ways?

Honestly a little bit of both

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If you are not improving then stop taking lessons with the instructor. If you are not improving after taking 8+ lessons then something is wrong. My advice to you, if you decide to stop taking lessons with the pro, is to do online lessons with golf evolution (evolvr). You record your swing and a 5 simple keys teacher will send you an analysis giving you a simple lesson with what you need to work on. I hope you can start playing better soon, because it sucks to be spending money and not improving. I have been there, man.

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Start a my swing thread, if you already do videos the you should have something to post. You'll get better feedback, also you can compare what you are being told to what the experts here see and that may give you insight as to why you aren't making the improvement you want.

Good advice for another option.

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I have taken lessons as well ... Did improve some, but honestly the drills here, and some help from Evolvr has been incredible ... Went from 23 to 18 in a matter of 8-10 weeks ... Good advice on my swing thread, I would consider Evolvr which is a swing thread x1000 ... It's the most bang for the buck out there ...
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Excuse for interrupt... But I feel in the same situation as the thread starter. I´m not improving, and I want it badly. Do you think evolvr would be really good and helpful for us??? Thank you all.

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Thanks for the insight!!

I actually coupled the instructor I see in person and therotaryswing website.  I just the the rotary swing website for drills on the motions my instructor has me work on.  I usually have to get a couple of different "swing motions/thoughts" for it to fit me personally.

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I've gone from never hitting a golf ball to currently a 6.4 handicap in 2 years, 2 months, and 17 days.  I did it without lessons so far.  When I first started playing golf, I did research and it seems like most people were telling me to get lessons.  After reading a few books and thinking about things logically, I realized that until my hand/eye coordination improved so that I could hit the back of the ball consistently that I would probably not gain much from lessons since it was just going to take practice and my coordination getting better.  I continued to read books, watch videos, play as much as possible, and only just recently have I been able to shape the ball.  I've been making tweeks here and there to my swing throughout that time though.

To the op:  I hope you find something that works for you that helps you improve.  Unfortunately as I'm sure you know, there is no one right way to hit a golf ball and people are different.  So while the instructor you had did not make you better, maybe they made others better.  I'm told that Bubba Watson never had lessons yet he has two majors, yet Tiger has had a swing coach for a long time.  It's just a matter of figuring out what works for you.

Personally I'm leary of hearing about how coaches want to completely change someone's swing.  Depending on the level they are at, my opinion is that it's usually not necessary and better to work with what you've got already and maximize the talent from what you have already.  In other words, unless you've gotten all you can from your swing and improvement is not going to come unless major changes are made, my opinion is to focus on the smaller things that can make an improvement with what you have.  I see it a lot where major swing changes are done and the person is not even a bogey golfer.  They do not even know their own swing, how are they going to implement a major swing change?

This is just my own two cents.  I've only been playing for a short time so it may not so good, however, I have reached all my personal golf goals so far by making informed decisions and not listening to what everyone else says automatically.

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