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I'm looking for sympathy and maybe, some advice.  I'm a returning golfer - played in college, now retired.  Husband and I have a membership at a local 9-hole public course.  I learned the basics of the game in high school, and continued playing through college.  One of the basics of my golf education was golf etiquette.   So, now, when we are golfing at this course, when we get to the tee box, any tee box, we have to spend a couple of minutes cleaning up the broken tees, and the tees left in place, all over the place.  It drives us nuts.  Am I crazy, or is it sort of good manners to clean up after yourself after your drive off the tee?  Thanks for listening.

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I don't think I've ever heard this complaint before. Broken tees are the very least of my concern on the course. Slow play, unfilled divots, ball marks, and unraked bunkers all bother me. Broken tees, not so much.
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I don't think I've ever heard this complaint before. Broken tees are the very least of my concern on the course. Slow play, unfilled divots, ball marks, and unraked bunkers all bother me. Broken tees, not so much.


Broken tees shouldn't be left on the tee box. The mowers used on the tee boxes will end up with dinged up reels. Throw your broken tees in the garbage or flick them off into the rough were the rough mower can chop them up without issue.

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I'm surprised more tee boxes don't have small boxes to deposit broken tees into. I've seen them at some courses. Not only does that help with the maintenance issues above, but it's also nice when you're hitting less than driver and are looking for a broken tee.

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Broken tees shouldn't be left on the tee box. The mowers used on the tee boxes will end up with dinged up reels. Throw your broken tees in the garbage or flick them off into the rough were the rough mower can chop them up without issue.

Huh?  What would I use for my par 3 tee shots if everybody did that? :-D

I agree that I have a lot more issues with unraked bunkers, ball marks on the greens, unfilled divots and cigarette butts left all over the course.  Unraked bunkers drive me nuts - that's such basic golf etiquette that anybody and everybody should know it, and it's just plain lazy and slovenly (not to mention rude) to leave a bunker looking like a kid's sandbox.

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Yeah it doesn't bother me much. I mowed tees and greens for a few years. You have to move the tee markers off anyway before mowing so grabbing a few old tees is no biggie. I do for the record put them in the box for old tees when a course has them.
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Throwing away broken tees varies from course to course. One course I played had a round ball in the ground for one position's tee marker, and a funnel shaped cup on the other side of the position where players could deposit their broken tees.

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You're supposed to pick up broken tees, but my God, it's nowhere near as bad as litter, cigarette/cigar butts, cigar ash, and the vile sunflower seeds.  It's really not a concern of mine.  And it doesn't take away from aesthetics.

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I've never even considered this to be a problem... If mine breaks I either keep it for a less than driver tee shot or put it to the side where the tees are kept. There are far more problems on the courses these days imo.

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You're supposed to pick up broken tees, but my God, it's nowhere near as bad as litter, cigarette/cigar butts, cigar ash, and the vile sunflower seeds.  It's really not a concern of mine.  And it doesn't take away from aesthetics.

If I find the guy on my course that spits his sunflower seeds out on the green.......

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You're supposed to pick up broken tees, but my God, it's nowhere near as bad as litter, cigarette/cigar butts, cigar ash, and the vile sunflower seeds.  It's really not a concern of mine.  And it doesn't take away from aesthetics.

If I find the guy on my course that spits his sunflower seeds out on the green.......


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Yes, I'm guilty of leaving broken tees on the box myself. Just not something I think about, and I rely on them being there when I'm using less than driver to tee off. Sunflower seeds on a green piss me off too.

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I'm looking for sympathy and maybe, some advice.  I'm a returning golfer - played in college, now retired.  Husband and I have a membership at a local 9-hole public course.  I learned the basics of the game in high school, and continued playing through college.  One of the basics of my golf education was golf etiquette.   So, now, when we are golfing at this course, when we get to the tee box, any tee box, we have to spend a couple of minutes cleaning up the broken tees, and the tees left in place, all over the place.  It drives us nuts.  Am I crazy, or is it sort of good manners to clean up after yourself after your drive off the tee?  Thanks for listening.

Most of the tees I use are broken ones and unbroken ones left behind by other golfers. Besides, unless they are plastic, they are bio-degradable and will rot given enough time, or will eventually end up hidden under the dirt.

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The biggest slobs on the golf course that really tic me off are the Canadian Geese. You wouldn't believe the mess they make with their droppings

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#1 thing that irritates me, besides slow play, is sunflower seeds on the green.
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The biggest slobs on the golf course that really tic me off are the Canadian Geese. You wouldn't believe the mess they make with their droppings

I think it was Fred Funk who asked a rules official at a U.S. Open if Geese droppings can be removed as loose impediments. The rules official told him you can remove them. Fred asked something like "could you?" But yeah, goose droppings... I need to clean my cart's wheels and my shoes after rounds at certain courses.

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The geese are crazy on my course this year. They are making an absolute mess all over. I spend hours upon hours up home in North Dakota trying to get within 12 gauge range of the buggers but here they barely get out of your way while trying to golf.

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Huh?  What would I use for my par 3 tee shots if everybody did that?  :-D

Just what I was thinking!

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