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My first reaction was "Sure I believe him. He would NEVER lie". After reading Christine Brennan's column in USA Today, I am not so sure. What do you think?

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You are making an assumption that we all read what you read, or even have all the background information on what your talking about.

I don't have the slightest idea on what the subject is, other than it is something to do with manning.

 

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35 minutes ago, Abu3baid said:

You are making an assumption that we all read what you read, or even have all the background information on what your talking about.

I don't have the slightest idea on what the subject is, other than it is something to do with manning.

 

Yeah @PEZGolf, you really need to start citing sources and posting links to the articles you're mentioning if you plan to start a thread.

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Agree with the above - give us some background.  In the meantime, I'm just going to assume that your asking if I agree with him that Papa Johns is the best pizza.  And on that one I'm gonna have to go with a big fat no!!

Also, after learning of his sleazy actions in college, I hold him in much lower regard than I used to, so after finding out whatever it is you're talking about, I'm likely going to lean towards no, regardless.  (Check the "controversy" heading here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning)

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14 hours ago, SavvySwede said:

Yeah @PEZGolf, you really need to start citing sources and posting links to the articles you're mentioning if you plan to start a thread.

OK. I wrongly assumed that since it was BIG NEWS on ESPN and in newspapers, even our local one--the "Utica Observer Dispatch" that All Jazeera reported they had statements and other evidence that Manning had been taking HGH, which is BANNED by the NFL. while Manning has vehemently denied the charge, Al Jazeera is standing by the story. I have the December 30 issue of the "New York Daily News", written by Nathaniel Vinton.

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48 minutes ago, PEZGolf said:

OK. I wrongly assumed that since it was BIG NEWS on ESPN and in newspapers, even our local one--the "Utica Observer Dispatch" that All Jazeera reported they had statements and other evidence that Manning had been taking HGH, which is BANNED by the NFL. while Manning has vehemently denied the charge, Al Jazeera is standing by the story. I have the December 30 issue of the "New York Daily News", written by Nathaniel Vinton.

Rather than copping a 'tude you could have just linked to an article or something.

Still could.

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Don't know, don't care. Didn't even know any of this was going on until now.

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If Al Jazeera is reporting it, it ain't true.

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mcanadiens Super Member

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I believe Manning did what he did yesterday. And that was to insure the Bengals have to play the rotten, quarterback-injuring Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs yet again. 

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If he didn't do it he'll vehemently deny it.

If he did it he'll vehemently deny it (like Lance Armstrong).  Manning's comments including the threat of lawsuit pretty much the same as Armstrong's reaction to allegations against him.  

Therefore anything he says about this should be ignored.

Did he use ped's, I don't know.

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15 hours ago, Gunther said:

If Al Jazeera is reporting it, it ain't true.

Well that's wrong.

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I can't find the USA today article you mention.

 

All I know is that there was an allegation that HGH was mailed to Peyton's wife, the source recanted, and the owner of the clinic said the source didn't work there at the time.  Given that, I'm inclined to find not guilty on the issue of Peyton using HGH.

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The Al Jazeera report is pretty convincing. You can watch the undercover video here: http://deadspin.com/here-is-the-full-documentary-that-alleges-peyton-mannin-1749848850

Possibly under pressure from Manning's lawyers, Sly (the guy who allegedly worked there at the time and damns Manning on video) changed his story. As stated above, Al Jazeera is standing by its report.

I've grown up seeing many top athletes implicated in various PED scandals: Lance Armstrong, Floyd Landis, A-Rod, Barry Bonds, Mark McGuire, Roger Clemens, Marion Jones, Ryan Braun, just to name a few.

Considering how lax and predictable the NFL drug testing policy has been, I think America would be shocked if a substantial number of players, including Payton Manning, have not been using PEDs.

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On the other hand, if Manning is using PEDs he sure isn't bulking up in the process. Just watch him play. Arm strength is way down from prior to his injury. 

That said, I agree that NFL players are making mince meat out of whatever testing the NFL actually is doing.

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3 hours ago, No Mulligans said:

If he didn't do it he'll vehemently deny it.

If he did it he'll vehemently deny it (like Lance Armstrong).  Manning's comments including the threat of lawsuit pretty much the same as Armstrong's reaction to allegations against him.

Therefore anything he says about this should be ignored.

Did he use ped's, I don't know.

I agree with you.  I do not know, either.  I hope not, but I felt the same way with Lance Armstrong and then felt betrayed when he finally admitted it.

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22 hours ago, Gunther said:

If Al Jazeera is reporting it, it ain't true.

Pearls of wisdom from the Gunth-man. 

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4 hours ago, PEZGolf said:

I agree with you.  I do not know, either.  I hope not, but I felt the same way with Lance Armstrong and then felt betrayed when he finally admitted it.

So did I. That was a big blow that definitely made me more cynical.

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7 hours ago, dsc123 said:

I can't find the USA today article you mention.

 

All I know is that there was an allegation that HGH was mailed to Peyton's wife, the source recanted, and the owner of the clinic said the source didn't work there at the time.  Given that, I'm inclined to find not guilty on the issue of Peyton using HGH.

Hypothetical brain exercise ... same exact set of circumstances and facts but replace Peyton Mannings name with Tom Brady.  Go:

 

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