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No, not at all. I just like to talk about country clubs A) because I grew up on one and B) I just think they get a bad rap sometimes and I like to provide opinion and share real life thoughts, stories, questions, ideas about them.
I was at the country club of Orlando today and I saw something I would like to share.
We have a magnificent terrace outside our dining room. It faces the the back nine with probably 6 holes in view making it a hotspot of the club. There were some wives eating on the terrace with there kids. There husbands were on some of the holes seen from the terrace. The restaurant staff noticing the kids eagerness took some carts and brought them out to be with there fathers while the wives sat on the terrace drinking wine. the kids were running around all over having great times with there fathers. It was great to see. The point is--there were other groups out there who were not affiliated with the families but they didn't care as a matter of fact they partook in the playing and the course almost became a playground. Things like this are what make the private club enterprise so homely. Everyone was happy and I captured a moment I won't forget.
I just went down to play Lexington country club in Fort Myers.
The course is completely green. Unbelievable considering they did 63,000 rounds last year. Amenities are nice. Typical friendly middle of the road country club in south florida. Check it out
How many people are on your resignation list?
How long is it taking them to get out or off it?
What is the financial stability of the club?
How many rounds a golf to you do a day/week?
Do you offer bundled memberships?
Can you walk a round?
what are tee time policies and preferences?
there are others, I just wanted to add to your list.
hello fellow floridian. I played in fortmyers for 8 years and the thunderstorms were always a gamble. Some coureses tried to be slick with the rain checks but for the most part you could get covered for the rain. They would ask you what hole you made it too and compensate based on that
semi-private are nice too I must say. You can still join mens leagues you can still reciprocate, you can still receive somewhat private style call privileges. And best of all your dudes can stay low because you have so much public play to help the money come in.
I might be a little biased since I live in south florida. down here we play 365 days. I guess the price of these clubs down here reflect the playability of the courses. You have to admit it sounds nice to play whenever you want. That also keeps the traffic down on public/semi private courses. Many people come down here seasonally (money is necessary) for our winter while enjoying there summer when they return. That also could be an option, there are many great investment (seasonal properties)
That is a perfect example of a gem. They are all over the place. It would be nice if you could share your golfing news on my forum (country club talk) so others can understand where the good things are. The idea is to share personal stories about your love for golf and your home course
Obviously you have to be a millionaire to join most of the clubs I have worked at but the fact is there is a market for those who can afford. In south florida the memberships are very expensive but many other places you can join for under 10,000 and still be at a greatly maintained facility. Shop wisely. Also many mens leagues in areas with lots of country clubs can reciprocate to other local clubs. I worked at a club in Bonita Springs. I would play with the mens group and honestly I played over 40 courses for free!! All in the time frame of 5 months now that answers the concerns of being stuck playing the same course till you can play it blindfolded. Face it everyone wants to play multiple courses and there are establishments that handle those concerns. Its all about making the member happy.
I think most of the posts are great for perspective but some important points are forgotten. yes, country clubs are expensive but they are an investment. your 50,000 dollar membership equals a piece of stock in the club. That being said in two years the value might be double, I've seen it!! Many clubs start to offer discounts for next generation members which even strengthens the choice. The reason people join country clubs is the same reason they send their kids to private school. They have the money too, for one, and they want the best. The environment is great to raise children for those you are younger members. Very little trouble, the pros are endless and of course there are some cons but I bet they are much surpassed.
I am at a club now in Orlando that is by invitation only now I know that sounds a little pretentious and waspy but let me say this. wouldn't you want to invite your friends to fish where the fishing is good? Moreover, I've seen people form great business relations and start their own companies. I know some members who networked with each other and now they just create boutique banks and sell them to bigger banks making millions together and traveling about. All because they joined the club and met the clientele. Its like joining an investment syndicate and with power comes opportunities, hookups. you can tap into everyone elses connections. Whether you like it or not making more money helps your retirement be more fruitful and the ability to tap into the talent pool with other successful people is very nice to think about. I haven't forgot about golf either I wanted to bring in some other aspects of clubs that I think is why they still have a stronghold in some areas. If you have time just take a look at south florida, specifically naples and palm beach gardens it will give you different opinions.
They live or die by the economy. that is to say financially but the standards and legacies of country clubs go back forever. There is way more good than bad. The point is the desire to join a club and play unlimited golf will always be in demand. We just need a republican president to help stimulate that market. That is my opinion!!
Well Gary this is what I think. When we get a republican president back in the white house the country club lifestyle will rebound.
They too are volatile like the economy which is interesting how much each private country club runs like its own government. The point is country clubs are an American standard and many people like you and myself would love to retire with golf in mind. Just like the real estate market we will return to par.