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post #379 of 537
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Just thought of this...

 

Going back to the episodes where Walt and Jesse teamed up with the Nazis originally, to start the Vamanos Pest operation, they were originally thieves. Then they all made the deal not to steal anything else from there on out. They were to take orders from Walt and Jesse and to only take "their share."

 

Now the went ahead and said f-ck you to all of that and in the end: were thieves.

Yeah, I was thinking about something similar yesterday.  I was going to make some sort of wise crack about how if they just listened to Saul and chose the Laser Tag store as their front, and minded their own business back by the pinball machines, then they wouldn't be in any of this mess right now.  During the train robbery, they could have had Huell driving the truck and Bill Burr helping with the water hose.  Drew Sharp would have lived and said nothing.  Jesse wouldn't go into a walking coma.

 

What would NOT change is that Mike's guys are still in jail, their hazard pay is still getting seized, and Walt is going to want them dead.  Of course, without Todd he doesn't have Jack, and thus no resources for pulling off the assassinations.  But, I imagine he would have figured something out because getting caught certainly wasn't an option for him.  And, thanks to his greed and pride, neither was quitting.

 

No matter which way you slice it ... the downfall is/was inevitable.

post #380 of 537
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Just thought of this...

Going back to the episodes where Walt and Jesse teamed up with the Nazis originally, to start the Vamanos Pest operation, they were originally thieves. Then they all made the deal not to steal anything else from there on out. They were to take orders from Walt and Jesse and to only take "their share."

Now the went ahead and said f-ck you to all of that and in the end: were thieves.

Nothing ground breaking just something I remembered.


Also lold last night when my fiance and  I were watching older episodes. It was Season 2 where Walt first meets Gus and Gus tells Walt, you can never trust an addict.

Welp.. Yeah. He got ya there Walter lol

Were the other Vamanos Pest guys Nazis? I'm pretty sure they were just normal fumigators/thieves and Walt was only introduced to the Nazis (through Todd, who is the least swastika-tattooed of all of the Nazis) as a way to take out Mike's guys. I don't remember any references to Nazism before that first meeting in the motel when they were planning to take out Mike's guys.
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Were the other Vamanos Pest guys Nazis? I'm pretty sure they were just normal fumigators/thieves and Walt was only introduced to the Nazis (through Todd, who is the least swastika-tattooed of all of the Nazis) as a way to take out Mike's guys. I don't remember any references to Nazism before that first meeting in the motel when they were planning to take out Mike's guys.

 

f ck.. you're right. lol.

 

I thought hastily because Todd was involved.

 

It was some other group of goons. Walt gets involved with the Nazis when he needs help killing Mike's guys

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Were the other Vamanos Pest guys Nazis? I'm pretty sure they were just normal fumigators/thieves and Walt was only introduced to the Nazis (through Todd, who is the least swastika-tattooed of all of the Nazis) as a way to take out Mike's guys. I don't remember any references to Nazism before that first meeting in the motel when they were planning to take out Mike's guys.


The Pest control guys were just criminals... And Todd was part of that group.  The Aryan Brotherhood dudes didn't get introduced until Todd reached out to his Uncle Jack for assistance on taking out Mike's associates getting hush money - who were in prison.

 

The Aryan Brotherhood is big in prison and organized gangs/crime... So they aren't Nazis... They're likely Aryan Brotherhood... But get called Nazis because of the symbolism found in their tattoos.

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Todd's character development has been great.  

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The Aryan Brotherhood is big in prison and organized gangs/crime... So they aren't Nazis... They're likely Aryan Brotherhood... But get called Nazis because of the symbolism found in their tattoos.

Ugh. I always get my white supremacists mixed up. b2_tongue.gif
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So they aren't Nazis... They're likely Aryan Brotherhood... But get called Nazis because of the symbolism found in their tattoos.

Well, that and the fact that they are white supremacists.

 

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Todd was eager to get in good with Walt from the git-go.  Right after Mike gives them the speech about never speaking unless they are spoken to, Todd still gets up the courage to go up to Walt and inform him that the house (the first house they are going to cook in) has a nanny-cam and that he disabled it.  And, shortly thereafter is when he tells Walt about his uncle and his connections.

post #386 of 537

for anyone that's interested. had this song in my head so looked it up. Its the song from the season finale

 

just a heads up, the official music video for this is effing weird as hell. lol. nothing to do with BB

 

 

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Perusing imdb.com and found a couple of fun little tidbits (that many of you probably already know) ...

 

- Bob Odenkirk based the character of Saul partially on his real-life agent Ari Emanuel.  Incidentally, Emanuel was also the inspiration for the character of Ari Gold on Entourage.

 

- The guy who plays Bogdan, Walt's boss at the car wash way back when, was not an actor prior to this role, but was, in fact, a chemistry genius with a phd.

 

- And I think everybody at this point knows that Jesse was supposed to die in season 1.  I would be curious to know how far out Vince Gilligan had planned the show beyond that, because it would be interesting to see the direction he envisioned without Jesse.

 

- He also said that he was going to originally have Tio Salamanca as the main antagonist from season 3 on, rather than Gus, so I'd be interested to know how far out he planned the show then as well.

post #388 of 537

Loving all this speculation and celebration of such a great show in its final week. 

 

Anyone here watch Conan last night? The entire episode was dedicated to Breaking Bad. The main cast were the guests, all the sketches were Breaking Bad related, and even Skinny Pete played in the band. Musical guest were those Mexican guys who sang that Heisenberg song. 

 

I enjoyed it!

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Loving all this speculation and celebration of such a great show in its final week. 

 

Anyone here watch Conan last night? The entire episode was dedicated to Breaking Bad. The main cast were the guests, all the sketches were Breaking Bad related, and even Skinny Pete played in the band. Musical guest were those Mexican guys who sang that Heisenberg song. 

 

I enjoyed it!

 

I have it DVR'd.

post #390 of 537
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for anyone that's interested. had this song in my head so looked it up. Its the song from the season finale

 

just a heads up, the official music video for this is effing weird as hell. lol. nothing to do with BB

 

 

That's a really great song - as it ties into Breaking Bad.  Very solid choice of music... But that video. LOL  

 

W...T.......

post #391 of 537
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Perusing imdb.com and found a couple of fun little tidbits (that many of you probably already know) ...

 

 

- He also said that he was going to originally have Tio Salamanca as the main antagonist from season 3 on, rather than Gus, so I'd be interested to know how far out he planned the show then as well.

 

lol what the hell? the main antagonist is a wheel chair-stricken, physically inept elderly man who only communicates through a bell?

 

good choice there Vince lol.

post #392 of 537
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Perusing imdb.com and found a couple of fun little tidbits (that many of you probably already know) ...

- Bob Odenkirk based the character of Saul partially on his real-life agent Ari Emanuel.  Incidentally, Emanuel was also the inspiration for the character of Ari Gold on Entourage.

Fun fact: Bob Odenkirk also created the "Matt Foley, Motivation Speaker" character played by Chris Farley when he was a writer on SNL.
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- He also said that he was going to originally have Tio Salamanca as the main antagonist from season 3 on, rather than Gus, so I'd be interested to know how far out he planned the show then as well.

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lol what the hell? the main antagonist is a wheel chair-stricken, physically inept elderly man who only communicates through a bell?

good choice there Vince lol.

From what I read, The Cousins were originally supposed to be a bigger part of the season, with Tio basically holding the power there. But apparently they never really came up with a better ending than the faceoff with Hank, so they went with that.
post #393 of 537
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lol what the hell? the main antagonist is a wheel chair-stricken, physically inept elderly man who only communicates through a bell?

 

good choice there Vince lol.

 

Tio, not Hector.

 

Nevermind...one in the same I guess?

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From what I read, The Cousins were originally supposed to be a bigger part of the season, with Tio basically holding the power there. But apparently they never really came up with a better ending than the faceoff with Hank, so they went with that.

 

Eh. Ok I can see that. Kind of being the "orchestrator" of it having the cousins do the bidding.

 

I liked the cousins kind of. but I felt like there was a little too much of a supernatural vibe to them. like they were ghosts or possessed or something

 

 

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Tio, not Hector.

 

Hector "Tio" Salamanca

post #395 of 537
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lol what the hell? the main antagonist is a wheel chair-stricken, physically inept elderly man who only communicates through a bell?

 

good choice there Vince lol.

 

Tio, not Hector.

 

Nevermind...one in the same I guess?

 

Tio means uncle. 

post #396 of 537
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Tio, not Hector.

 

Nevermind...one in the same I guess?

 

You are thinking of Tuco right? the Younger guy? 

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