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post #397 of 537
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Perusing imdb.com and found a couple of fun little tidbits (that many of you probably already know) ...

 

- Bob Odenkirk based the character of Saul partially on his real-life agent Ari Emanuel.  Incidentally, Emanuel was also the inspiration for the character of Ari Gold on Entourage.

 

- The guy who plays Bogdan, Walt's boss at the car wash way back when, was not an actor prior to this role, but was, in fact, a chemistry genius with a phd.

 

- And I think everybody at this point knows that Jesse was supposed to die in season 1.  I would be curious to know how far out Vince Gilligan had planned the show beyond that, because it would be interesting to see the direction he envisioned without Jesse.

 

- He also said that he was going to originally have Tio Salamanca as the main antagonist from season 3 on, rather than Gus, so I'd be interested to know how far out he planned the show then as well.

 

I'm not sure about the Saul comment... Saul's character was written by Peter Guold.  So while Bob Odenkirk is the actor of Saul... It really wasn't his call on who Saul was based on.  Did Peter base Saul on Ari Emanuel??  I guess I'm confused.

 
Bogdan was classic... That would be hilarious with those eyebrows... Would be great to see a flash forward of him getting his car wash back during the credits. LOL

 

Yeah Jesse dying would've been a bad move back in season 1.  The understatement of the century for anyone who likes Breaking Bad.  Great call by the writers to extend his life cycle in the show.  And brilliant move with Gus.  I was hoping that the Gus battle would've lasted longer.  For some reason I thought the Cartel (think back to the turtle scene) was more horrifying than the Aryan Brotherhood.  Something about Uncle Jack just seems cheesy.  But then we wouldn't had the freaking breakthrough that we've had with Todd's character.  Wow.  That dude is scary.  

 

Who's more evil?  Gus or Todd?  That's one helluva question...

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post #399 of 537
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Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
 

 

Hence, Meth Damon. LOL

post #400 of 537
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Originally Posted by Beachcomber View Post
 

 

Hence, Meth Damon. LOL

 

lol ya

 

just googled his character after seeing the post about his development. makes me lol every time

post #401 of 537
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Originally Posted by Slice of Life View Post
 

 

Tio, not Hector.

 

Nevermind...one in the same I guess?

Yes.

 

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Eh. Ok I can see that. Kind of being the "orchestrator" of it having the cousins do the bidding.

 

I liked the cousins kind of. but I felt like there was a little too much of a supernatural vibe to them. like they were ghosts or possessed or something

 

Hector "Tio" Salamanca

One thing I find amusing is that we refer to them as the "cousins" even though the only person whom they are cousins with is dead (Tuco) when they first appear.  I feel like their title should be "the brothers" or "the nephews." ;)

 

Of course, its as a direct result of that death that we meet them, so I guess in that sense "cousins" makes sense.

post #402 of 537
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Yes.

One thing I find amusing is that we refer to them as the "cousins" even though the only person whom they are cousins with is dead (Tuco) when they first appear.  I feel like their title should be "the brothers" or "the nephews." ;)

Of course, its as a direct result of that death that we meet them, so I guess in that sense "cousins" makes sense.

I think Sepinwall mentioned back when he was doing season 2 recaps that the scripts referred to them as "The Cousins," so that's what he goes with. I've read people call them "The Twins" or "The Brothers" as well.
post #403 of 537
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I'm not sure about the Saul comment... Saul's character was written by Peter Guold.  So while Bob Odenkirk is the actor of Saul... It really wasn't his call on who Saul was based on.  Did Peter base Saul on Ari Emanuel??  I guess I'm confused.

Actors need inspiration right?  According to Bob Odenkirk, that was part of his inspiration. ...

 

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In his August 2013 Terry Gross interview, Bob Odenkirk said that he based his character Saul Goodman partly on the Hollywood agents Robert Evans and Ari Emmanuel. Emanuel, who was also the inspiration for the character played by Jeremy Piven in the TV series Entourage and a different Odenkirk character, Stevie Grant on The Larry Sanders Show, is Odenkirk's actual agent.

 

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Yeah Jesse dying would've been a bad move back in season 1.  The understatement of the century for anyone who likes Breaking Bad.  Great call by the writers to extend his life cycle in the show.

Completely disagree with this on the premise that you have absolutely no idea if this is true or not.  I love, love, love this show.  (I've said several times over the last weeks that it's the best show I've ever watched)  But who's to say that it wouldn't have been even better had they gone in a different direction?  There is 0% chance of knowing that.

 

It's like when we read things like they almost went with Tom Selleck as Indiana Jones instead of Harrison Ford.  Our first reaction, which is very easy to come to, is "Thank god!  That would've sucked!"  But it's an absolutely false reaction because we can't possibly know that.  (And the fact that we always come to that conclusion kind of proves the point.)

 

Our view of that character, or of that show, is framed, at least partially, by the actors playing those characters.  Likewise, our views of those actors are partially framed by the characters they play.  We would be living in a different world had things panned out in a different way.

 

If Jesse died at the beginning, and they molded Skinny Pete or Badger or Combo or, heck, even Tuco into a partner for Walt and gone a different direction, its entirely possible, and frankly, quite likely, that 6 years later I would tell you that they had originally planned to kill him instead and keep Jesse, and your reaction would be EXACTLY the same.

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I remember how I was a little worried about how the show could continue to be good after the Hank / Cousins incident. With Tuco being killed off (who was another great antagonist)... And the Cousins being dead/hospitalized...  I really didn't think the show could possibly get any better... Boy, was I wrong! :beer: 

 

GUS!!!!!!

MIKE!!!!!!!

TODDDddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd!!!!!!

 

Damn, what a great show.

post #405 of 537
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Completely disagree with this on the premise that you have absolutely no idea if this is true or not.  I love, love, love this show.  (I've said several times over the last weeks that it's the best show I've ever watched)  But who's to say that it wouldn't have been even better had they gone in a different direction?  There is 0% chance of knowing that.

 

It's like when we read things like they almost went with Tom Selleck as Indiana Jones instead of Harrison Ford.  Our first reaction, which is very easy to come to, is "Thank god!  That would've sucked!"  But it's an absolutely false reaction because we can't possibly know that.  (And the fact that we always come to that conclusion kind of proves the point.)

 

Our view of that character, or of that show, is framed, at least partially, by the actors playing those characters.  Likewise, our views of those actors are partially framed by the characters they play.  We would be living in a different world had things panned out in a different way.

 

If Jesse died at the beginning, and they molded Skinny Pete or Badger or Combo or, heck, even Tuco into a partner for Walt and gone a different direction, its entirely possible, and frankly, quite likely, that 6 years later I would tell you that they had originally planned to kill him instead and keep Jesse, and your reaction would be EXACTLY the same.

 

Ok.  I refuse to get into a douchebag laden debate on logic, or probability and chance if they did this, or did that.  No one is going to win.  So I'll just end that right now.  For me, Jesse has played an amazing role... Such that I can't imagine him being killed off at such an early stage (season 1).

 
See how I did that Cheesey??  No more debate for you... :smartass:
post #406 of 537
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Ok.  I refuse to get into a douchebag laden debate on logic, or probability and chance if they did this, or did that.  No one is going to win.  So I'll just end that right now.  For me, Jesse has played an amazing role... Such that I can't imagine him being killed off at such an early stage (season 1).

 
See how I did that Cheesey??  No more debate for you... :smartass:

 

All I see is that I was called a douchebag for no reason.

 

I'm out.

post #407 of 537
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Tio means uncle. 

 

Yeah, I'm dumb...took spanish...brain fart. I was thinking of the younger one for some reason. The one Gus kills.

post #408 of 537
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Ok.  I refuse to get into a douchebag laden debate on logic, or probability and chance if they did this, or did that.  No one is going to win.  So I'll just end that right now.  For me, Jesse has played an amazing role... Such that I can't imagine him being killed off at such an early stage (season 1).

 
See how I did that Cheesey??  No more debate for you... :smartass:

 

All I see is that I was called a douchebag for no reason.

 

I'm out.

 

LOL! Flame warrrrrrr.

 

Dude, Tom Selleck would've SUCKED as Indiana Jones, come on!

 

post #409 of 537
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Todd's character development has been great.  

 

Huh?

 
What character development? He's been a weirdly creepy, vacuous, emotionless dude from the get-go.
post #410 of 537
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Huh?

 
What character development? He's been a weirdly creepy, vacuous, emotionless dude from the get-go.

 

ha, that's true.  I guess I just mean that I like his growing role in the show and in the meth operations.  

post #411 of 537
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Huh?

 
What character development? He's been a weirdly creepy, vacuous, emotionless dude from the get-go.

 

He reminds me of a character that was in a movie I watched but can't remember the name of. He's outwardly extremely nice, courteous, and compassionate. Sometimes it's hard to reconcile that with how he can just kill without compunction or remorse. I mean, I know that's basically the textbook definition of a sociopath, but still. Sometimes if you forget what he has done or is capable of he seems like a good guy.

post #412 of 537

Breaking Bad opening credits done House of Cards style.

 

 

 

post #413 of 537

I've been watching the marathon on AMC when I haven't been working.  It was fun to see the pilot again, and to watch Walt turn into Heisenberg.

 

I can admit I was late catching on  (season 3 is when I first tuned in), and I'm really going to be missing it once it ends.

post #414 of 537

Yea, I can't believe we only have one left... Sad. 

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