AP1 vs 755

**Maverick** · April 21, 2008

Besides cosmetics, what are the differences between these two? Ball flight? Forgiveness? etc.

I will be looking at a regular shaft for both.

**DavidFehertysBike** · April 21, 2008

In my opinion, the 755's are just strait up better sticks than the AP1's. The biggest difference is that the 755s are a forged set, the AP1's are cast. The 755s will be slighty more responsive and have better feedback through to the hands.

I hit 755's lower while the Ap1's seemed to ballon a bit, but that could just be the shafts in the Ap1's talking. The 755's seem a little bigger than the ap1's but I dont think that they are. The AP's are most likley much more forgiving than the 755, but i cant be sure without knowing how you swing. I also think the AP1's might be a little heavier, it that is important in your decison.

***iacas*** · April 21, 2008

In my opinion, the 755's are just strait up better sticks than the AP1's. The biggest difference is that the 755s are a forged set, the AP1's are cast. The 755s will be slighty more responsive and have better feedback through to the hands.

Let's shelve the "forged vs. cast" debate. You can't tell the difference, and even if you could, you can't reasonably compare two clubs with vastly different shapes and materials like the 755 and the AP1.

The AP1s aren't really my category of club, but I just finished the AP2 review and previously published some "field testing" results on the AP1. I've hit the 755s and 775s, too. Probably 50 balls with each, so take my comments for what they're worth. This isn't based on extensive testing at all. The 755s feel a bit harsher on off-center contact and are a good bit less forgiving than the AP1s. They're targeted at slightly better golfers (the AP2/AP1 border, roughly, or the top end of the AP2 customers). If you mean "the 755s will feel harsher at impact on mis-hit balls" by "more responsive," then I would agree with that. On sweet-spot contact the AP1 felt a tad softer than the 755s. This is probably due to the elastomer cushion and all it entails. The AP1, if memory serves, will have a thicker topline and perhaps a tad more offset (you can check that), if those are important to you.

I hit 755's lower while the Ap1's seemed to ballon a bit, but that could just be the shafts in the Ap1's talking.

The stock shaft in the AP1 is a high-launch shaft. In my experience, they did indeed launch quite high. It's something that will help the "aspiring golfer" these clubs target, but if you get the ball up in the air well enough already, go with a more standard-launch shaft.

Ballooning is a matter of spin, though, and I didn't find that these clubs ballooned at all. They launched higher, but a higher launch isn't the same as "ballooning" caused by excess spin. The trajectory was high, but fairly flat with no real ballooning. We were hitting into the wind in Florida, too.

The 755's seem a little bigger than the ap1's but I dont think that they are. The AP's are most likley much more forgiving than the 755, but i cant be sure without knowing how you swing.

Swing's pretty irrelevant: the AP1 is designed to be more forgiving. I've not hit the 775 much, but the AP1 basically replaces the 775 with a much more improved model, and takes away a good chunk of the 755 market too. The rest of the 755 people will likely find a partner with the AP2 instead.

I also think the AP1's might be a little heavier, it that is important in your decison.

Both have a D2 swingweight.

The 755s were intended for a slightly better golfer than the AP1. The AP1 are the most forgiving clubs Titleist makes right now, yet they have certain "good player" characteristics that shouldn't stunt your growth like, say, a Callaway Wide-Sole Fusion.

I'm very, very impressed by both AP models. They're pretty revolutionary for Titleist. P.S. I'll see if I can get Alan to comment in here. He's reviewing the AP1s.

**Maverick** · April 21, 2008

wow, that was great! thanks Erik.

**DavidFehertysBike** · April 21, 2008

What iacas said. I still belive the 755's are better clubs overall, though. But thats just me.

**Dent** · April 21, 2008

Would you recommend the 755's for a handicap like mine? because thats what I was looking at before.

***iacas*** · April 21, 2008

Would you recommend the 755's for a handicap like mine? because thats what I was looking at before.

I'd recommend the AP2, actually. But let's not divert the topic, okay? Let's respect the OP and his question.

**hkmp5** · April 21, 2008

I have played 755 for a year now and I had ping I3's before the switch.( my first clubs)
I really thought that I had bought more club then I could handle and as soon as the ap1 and 2's came out I was first inline to demo them, to me They felt heavy and loose if that's a golf term :) maybe the shaft's were the problem but who knows at this point. After hitting several jumbo bucket of balls on three different trips to the pro shop and wanting to like them I walked away extremly happy with my 755's.

knowing I made the right choice not only for getting clubs out of my league and doing quite well with them but knowing I am past the game improvment models made me feel great .I'm going to buy a back up set of 755's as soon as the shops start dumping them .I would go for the 755's and not look back they are great clubs imo!

**BigAl5150** · April 21, 2008

Just to add to what Erik already said, here's a few thoughts on the AP1's so far during my review:

Mis-hits get similar distance and you do get some feedback as to where you hit it on the clubface (more so on the toe or heel but not so much if you a mere fractions of an inch from the sweet spot). You don't have to be perfect, which for me is good. You still need to make a good swing though as these are not game improvement shovels.
While these tend to want to go straight, you can work the ball. I was able to hook and slice them quite well. Seriously, you can get draws and cuts from the AP1's.
I felt the weighting allowed me to make a very easy swing and get very good distance and accuracy. You can swing easy and really hammer the ball.
The True Temper High Launch shafts are okay. I usually play Dynamic Gold and have for years and I probably would get those rather than the HL if I had to do it all over again. The HL have a high, penetrating flight but I never felft the ball "ballooned" and got caught up in the wind.

**nykfan4life** · April 22, 2008

Just to add to what Erik already said, here's a few thoughts on the AP1's so far during my review:

I thought they were 'Game Improvement' They look pretty similar to another iron set I have(RAC OS2).

**steve8820** · April 22, 2008

I actually hit both clubs this past weekend, but cannot comment on ball flight since these were hit indoors. IMO the AP1 was much more forgiving than the 755. Also, the appearance at address was a little less intimidating with the AP1. I am moving from the big bertha, so basically any club I pick up has a considerably smaller head.

With the 755, I felt that mis-hits were very apparant while the AP1 seemed to cover up mis-hits a little more. That being said, with the AP1 you still had the feedback that you didn't hit it flush. This is something that I am looking for in my new set. The feedback from my big berthas is non-existent.

Will probably be moving to the AP1 in less than a month

**670forged** · April 24, 2008

I was at a course today and they had new AP1 demo 6 irons for sale for $20. Since I am going to graphite I bought one with the VS proto 75 shaft in it. Hit it several times and now am going to order the whole set. I am not a long hitter but was hitting this one 180 yards high and straight. The offset isn't bad at all but the topline is a little thick. I can live with that if I continue hitting this club straight and far. I currently am playing a set of Bridgestone J-33 cavity backs that are tour issued that i have used for 8 rounds so this is a major step. Looks like the J-33's are going up for sale! I'm so impressed that I am going to a full Titleist bag again. My 50th birthday is the 28th and the wife has been given the shopping list!

**Lefty731PM** · April 24, 2008

The offset isn't bad at all but the topline is a little thick. I can live with that if I continue hitting this club straight and far.

I compared the look of the AP1 and AP2 yesterday and the topline of the AP1 is extremely thick. This probably won't bother anyone who started playing after Callaway came into being, but for some of the traditionailsts (older players) out there, it could be a serious issue. I was comparing them, thinking beforehand that I'd probably go for the forgiveness of the AP1, thinking they'd look pretty much the same, but there is no way I could live with that topline - but that's just me. The 755s are a much more old school look.

***iacas*** · April 24, 2008

I compared the look of the AP1 and AP2 yesterday and the topline of the AP1 is extremely thick.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's "extremely" thick. It's thicker than the AP2's, but that's about it. Thinner than a lot of other game improvement clubs.

but for some of the traditionailsts (older players) out there, it could be a serious issue. I was comparing them, thinking beforehand that I'd probably go for the forgiveness of the AP1, thinking they'd look pretty much the same, but there is no way I could live with that topline - but that's just me. The 755s are a much more old school look.

Sure, but the 755s aren't as "game improving." You've gotta look at the 775s or even the 804s for a more accurate comparison.

**Maverick** · April 24, 2008

HALLELUYAH!!

I just came back from the golf store that has an outdoor range. I demo'd the AP1. I was playing X-18 PS so the look of the AP1's didn't bother me..they are similar.

I'm playing to about a 18-20 these days and just wanted something that was still game improving but could be played around with too. I was demoing a 6 iron, 113g, High Launch shaft, Regular flex. It took a little to get adjusted to and the fitter told me I didn't have to be "perfect" in hitting the ball. He said imagine hitting a softball or a little bigger.

I was hitting it so perfect. The trajectory was high and seemed the 6 iron was just as high as my X-18 ps 7 iron. No ballooning but just a nice penetrating height.

The HL shaft was perfect for me and I'm getting fitted tomorrow. If you are an average player and want something straight and easy and high..these are it.

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