Originally Posted by BuckeyeNut
The whole argument is BS...............
You need to be good enough to keep the ball in play from the tee............get it on or around the greens in reg....and in the cup. Pretty GDamn simple. Nobody gets near scratch without short game...........
Nobody disputes that you can't get to scratch without a really good short game, but what is being said in the research is that the long game gets you in position to play well. I think that your handicap pretty much says you can depend upon your long game, and that your good and bad days might statistically depend more upon your short game.
Originally Posted by flopster
They say the long game is more important, all I know is that every aspect of the game is important because the difference between breaking 80 and even par could just be a couple missed 3 footers, a chili dip, and a bladed explosion.Errant tee shots can sometimes be recovered same as tugging an iron left of the green can be made up with a good chip and putt.One other reason I have a hard time agreeing long game is more important is that short game is what you do last at any hole and can carry over into the next a lot of times, bad drives and poor irons can be forgotten with a solid short game.
No one is really saying anything, we are looking at the conclusion Dr. Broadie made from the data he took at his country club. It seems that the long game gives you a better chance for a lower score. His statement further concludes that if you had any shot from a tour pro, it would be from more than 100 yards away.
The argument is that it underscores the standard teaching that "the key to low golf scores is a good short game".
Some of us made conclusions based upon our own experiences, myself included, that when our long game is on we score better. I know that when I was playing two weeks ago, I hit relaxed off the tee and got decent distances on the fairway. Last week, I got more aggressive (and much longer) with my tee shots, and scored worse because I ended up in bad places (like the next tee box, in one case). My irons and short game were better last week, but I still scored worse.
In my "isolated" example, my scoring results have correlated very well with Dr. Broadie's conclusion.