Jump to content
IGNORED

Interesting situation

DGart09

By DGart09,
in Golf Talk

 Share
Note: This thread is 5720 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Recommended Posts

DGart09 Member

DGart09

Hey guys,

I recently got done with a round where I was playing with my buddies. We played for just a little bit of money, 10 dollars each and all goes to the winner after 9. All seemed to be going well, except for the end where one of my buddies, the one in charge of the score card, claimed he won. Everyone agreed, except me, because I kept my own score card in secret to try to verify the results. (If I'm giving someone 10 dollars, they should have earned it). However, he claimed he had won, where my score card showed someone else. I did not mention it to him until we were all leaving where I just hinted at knowing he had cheated. He just shrugged his shoulders and left. What would you have done? Called him out right in front of the other two guys? What if it wasn't for money? I guess it's me, but I hate it when people fudge their numbers, even if it is just to make them look better. This game is all about honesty, but I don't know anymore...

In My Ogio Grom Bag:

Driver: Taylormade r7 Superquad 460 CC
3 & 5 Wood: Cobra LD M Speed Offset
Hybrid: Cobra Baffler DWSIrons: Titleist AP1 4I-GW Sand Wedge: Callaway WarbirdPutter: Odyssey White Hot XG #1 Glove: Footjoy WeathersofShoe: Footjoy PRO Saddle DryjoyBall: Titleist NXT...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Smallville Great Member

Smallville

In any game where the scores matter, the shots should be counted correctly. My question is, why did you have to keep a scorecard in secret? And why was only one person keeping score? Why didn't everyone keep score? Or at least, if you were riding, each cart should have had a scorecard.

I'd have called him out in front of everyone if you were positive you were right. At the very least, if you gamble with this guy again, I'd make sure everyone kept a scorecard.
My Equipment:
Northwestern 3-, 5-, 7- and 9-wood;
Goldwin AVDP Irons (5-10 plus PW);
U.S. Golf 60 degree wedge;
See-More Putter; Bushnell Yardage Pro 1000 Rangefinder;Golflogix GPS.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

rssgolf Member

rssgolf

I too would have called him out in front of everyone, but if you weren't comfortable doing that, just dropping a hint like, "I also kept score and came up with a different winner, did miss a score somewhere" then compare your scorecards.

I personally don't have a problem with people misrepresenting their scores when they are playing a regular round, because it only comes back to hurt them, but when you are playing for money that is a different story.

What's in my bag

Driver Dymo Squared Str8Fit 9.5
3 wood SZ 3 wood
Irons: 710 AP1Wedges: 52* oilcan, 56* oilcan spin milled Putter: Blue Chip OZ Ball: NXT

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Jay-Bird Great Member

Jay-Bird

This is why it is difficult to play with/against people who make up their own rules (see the entire "Do you really play golf?" thread). Make up your own rules now, suffer later.

The score should have been settled and agreed upon at the end of the round. If you are the only one who noticed a discrepancy, the onus is on you. It may not have been easy, but I would have pointed it out. You don't necessarily have to "call him out" - rather calmy say that you don't remember the score being as it is written and open a dialogue - get everyone else involved.

driver: FT-i tlcg 9.5˚ (Matrix Ozik XCONN Stiff)
4 wood: G10 (ProLaunch Red FW stiff)
3 -PW: :Titleist: 695 mb (Rifle flighted 6.0)
wedges:, 52˚, 56˚, 60˚
putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Fraser Dedicated Member

Fraser

That's why you score for eachother and swap cards

In the Matrix XTT Standbag:

Driver: Biggest Big Bertha 11*
Fairway Wood: Steelhead Plus 3 Wood
Irons: T-Zoid Titanium Insert irons 3-SWWedge: Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 60.04Putter: Pro Platinum Laguna 34" w/ British Open '04 headcoverBall: ProV1 Rule35 Playing again after a three year hiatus...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

dave s Great Member

dave s

First and foremost, golf is supposed to be fun and not (usually) a source of income among hobbiests. Secondly, it would be the last time I played with someone who is trying to make money off me by 'fudging' a score!

Not sure if you said he had YOUR score recorded incorrectly (overstated) or you were questioning the accuracy of HIS score, (possibly UNDERstated) on the 'official' card. If he scored YOU incorrectly, you probably should have produced your 'secret card' and corrected the numbers on his 'official' card immediately.

If you decide to play with him again, I'd be keeping HIS score on EVERY hole and let him know this up front.

dave

The ultimate "old man" setup:

Ping G30 driver
Ping G Fairway woods - 5 and 7 woods
Callaway X-Hot #5 hybrid; Old school secret weapon
Ping G #6-9 irons; W and U wedges
Vokey 54 and 58* Wedges
Odyssey Versa Putter
Golf Balls

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Awards, Achievements, and Accolades
1

Smallville Great Member

Smallville

"Called him out" might have been too tough a term, I just used the term the OP said. But yeah Jay's right, everyone should have talked about it before everyone left.

I don't, haven't and "most likely" never will play for money because I'm not good enough and golf costs enough as it is, even another ten is 20 percent of what I would pay to play on a weekend at some of the medium priced courses here.
My Equipment:
Northwestern 3-, 5-, 7- and 9-wood;
Goldwin AVDP Irons (5-10 plus PW);
U.S. Golf 60 degree wedge;
See-More Putter; Bushnell Yardage Pro 1000 Rangefinder;Golflogix GPS.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dub Great Member

Dub

This is why it is difficult to play with/against people who make up their own rules (see the entire "Do you really play golf?" thread). Make up your own rules now, suffer later.

Complete agreement.

I've seen even the best of friends get riled up furiously over such situations.
909D Comp 9.5* (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-6)
Burner Superfast 3 & 5 woods (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-4.8)
G15 Hybrid 23* (AWT shaft)
G5 5 iron-PW-46*, UW-50*, SW-54 & LW-58 (AWT shaft)
Studio Select Newport 2 Mid SlantGrips: PING cords & Golf Pride New Decade Multi-Coumpound Bag: C-130...
Link to comment
Share on other sites

alf174 Great Member

alf174

That's why you score for eachother and swap cards

yep, or have two scorekeepers and all numbers must match.

I would have challenged him on it.

"You can live to be a hundred if you give up all the things that make you want to live to be a hundred." Woody Allen
My regular pasture.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

DGart09 Member

DGart09

  • Author
The reason I kept my own card was due to the that I normally like to keep them and look over them once the season has past in order to determine how I had improved. Normally I will keep my own score but for this round, I thought, what the heck, I will keep everyone else's scores as well. This will be the last time I play for money. This was my first time, and I was hesistant. I'm not a huge fan of bringing money into my hobbies. I enjoy it more when I'm just out there to have fun. However, I thought $10 would be work getting the guys off my back.

Knowing what I know now, I will probably just lay low, not mention it and just not play for money. $40, the pot, is not worth possibly losing a golf partner. I agree with some of the other posters on this board in that, if it is just for fun, his fudging his scores will only hurt him.

In My Ogio Grom Bag:

Driver: Taylormade r7 Superquad 460 CC
3 & 5 Wood: Cobra LD M Speed Offset
Hybrid: Cobra Baffler DWSIrons: Titleist AP1 4I-GW Sand Wedge: Callaway WarbirdPutter: Odyssey White Hot XG #1 Glove: Footjoy WeathersofShoe: Footjoy PRO Saddle DryjoyBall: Titleist NXT...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

pjsnyc Great Member

pjsnyc

It might be too late now to call him out on it, but if the person in question wants to play for money again, I'd def hint at the discrepancy...even if its just to see his reaction (you know - the looking down, avoiding eye contact, etc)

:P
In the bag Nike SasQuatch SuMo 10.5* {} Tiger Shark Hammerhead 3w, 5w, 3h {} Nickent 3DX Pro 5i-PW {} Titleist Vokey 250.08* {} Cleveland CG11. 54* {} Callaway X-Tour 58.11* {} Carbite Tour Classic Putter {} Titleist ProV1x

Link to comment
Share on other sites

mellojoe Well Established Member

mellojoe

I too would have called him out in front of everyone, but if you weren't comfortable doing that, just dropping a hint like, "I also kept score and came up with a different winner, did miss a score somewhere" then compare your scorecards.

This.

Plain and simple, without being aggressive, you could have simply said, "My scores aren't matching yours, what did I do wrong?" And this would give him the opportunity to admit he made a mistake on one of the holes or show you where you made a mistake on yours. But, it would also be a nice way to double-check each other. Who knows... maybe he made a legitimate mistake?

10.5* Driver (don't really ever use it)
3w, 5w
23* hybrid
5i through PW, SW
60* Wedge.....................................................................mellojoe

Link to comment
Share on other sites

steve8820 Well Established Member

steve8820

I would have called him out right there. Why did you pay the guy when you knew he cheated? You should only play for money against guys that you know play by the rules and are honest. Some of my best friends I will not play against for money because I have to watch them like a hawk. It really makes for a stressful round. Some of the nicest people in the world cheat like hell on the course when money is on the line.....

R9 460 9.5
R9 3-Wood
Irons AP1 4-PW
Wedge X-Forged 62*, 56*, 50*
Studio Select 34" MS Newport 2 TP Red

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Stillhacken Established Member

Stillhacken

Isnt it quite possible the guy made a simple mistake?

You should have called him on it and found out if he was right or if you were right. Your card might have been wrong if people werent reporting their scores to you.

And keeping your own score card doesnt have to be a secret.

Golf is the cruelest game, because eventually it will drag you out in front of the whole school, take your lunch money and slap you around. ~Rick Reilly, "Master Strokes," Sports Illustrated

Link to comment
Share on other sites

907golfer12 Great Member

907golfer12

I think you should have said something like "I got some different scores from you, may I compare our scorecards because I think I got some of the holes wrong?" By saying that you think you are the one at fault he won't get mad or anything, and then when you guys have different scores written down for any of the players you ask that player what he got on that hole.

Here's what I play:

Titleist 907 D2 10.5* UST ProForce V2 76-S | Titleist 906F4 18.5* Aldila VS Proto "By You" 80-S | Titleist 585H 21* Aldila VS Proto "By You" 80-S | Titleist ZB 4-PW TTDG S300 | Bob Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 54.10 | Bob Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 60.08 | Scotty Cameron Red X5 33" |

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Note: This thread is 5720 days old. We appreciate that you found this thread instead of starting a new one, but if you plan to post here please make sure it's still relevant. If not, please start a new topic. Thank you!

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing


  • Want to join this community?

    We'd love to have you!

    Sign Up

  • TST Partners

    TourStriker PlaneMate
    Golfer's Journal
    ShotScope
    The Stack System
    FlightScope Mevo
    Direct: Mevo, Mevo+, and Pro Package.

    Coupon Codes (save 10-15%): "IACAS" for Mevo/Stack, "IACASPLUS" for Mevo+/Pro Package, and "THESANDTRAP" for ShotScope.

  • Posts

    • Vinsk
      LIV Golf (Saudi PIF), "Mergers," and More

      By Vinsk ·

      Agree. The next omission needs to be that ridiculous team concept. Nobody cares about a team when they really don’t represent anything except being a group of diminished morality and/or washed up pro golfers. Or wait, we’ve also got total nobodies who’ve accomplished nothing who now get a participation trophy! Doesn’t that sound invigorating!
    • Elmer
      LIV Golf (Saudi PIF), "Mergers," and More

      By Elmer ·

      LIV moving to 72 holes is a subtle admission that 54 holes was nothing but a joke all along. 
    • imsys0042
      This Guy Is Blatantly Sandbagging!

      By imsys0042 ·

      I was going to start a thread, but this seems like the place.  Yesterday I played my matchplay match at my local club.  My opponent is a notorious sandbagger by reputation.  The pro once pulled his tournament rounds from the past several years and said that it is impossible his tournament rounds are legit based on his handicap. here is what happened last night.  I am getting 4 shots from him.  His current handicap index is 15.3 i shot 45 on the front.   Was down 4 after nine, he had three birdies and shot even par. I was closed out on thirteen, we halved with a bogey.  That bogey put him one over par for his round.   He then took a triple on 14 and then left. As if that wasn’t bad enough, he lied about his score.   I wrote down on my scorecard what the score was.  He put higher values that didn’t affect the outcome of the match to pad his score and apparently make it not look as obvious.   He shot 36 on the front, but claimed 40.  The higher values for his score were in the online scoring app our club uses.  He did it this way: I won #7. He had a 2 foot putt for par that if he made would still lose the hole.   He picked up and said it didn’t matter since I won.  He took a 5 instead of a 4 after picking up a gimme. on #8 his approach shot on this par 4 was 8 inches.  I verbally conceded the putt but I had hit into a hazard.  I finished the hole with a 6.  Instead of birdie he put in for par. on #9, another par 4, his approach was to 18 inches.  I missed my par putt and then knowing how close I verbally conceded the putt.  I missed my bogey putt, he never conceded mine.  Instead of birdie he put down a bogey. He padded his score by 4 shots on the front.  And then did again on 10.  I rinsed one and made 6 on a par 4.  I putted out and he was fishing balls out of the lake so I drove off to the next tee.  He had 15 feet laying two but claimed a 5.     love to know the odds of a 15 handicap being even thru 12 holes on a round of golf. 
    • snapfade
      LIV Golf (Saudi PIF), "Mergers," and More

      By snapfade ·

      They've been chuckling since they hooked the shark. I think Greg doesn't realize the jokes on him.
    • DaveP043
      2024 TST Outing - June 1/2 @ EagleSticks and Virtues

      By DaveP043 ·

      to confirm, I'll need a hotel for Friday and Saturday, planning to share with you
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to TST! Signing up is free, and you'll see fewer ads and can talk with fellow golf enthusiasts! By using TST, you agree to our Terms of Use, our Privacy Policy, and our Guidelines.

  I accept
The popup will be closed in 10 seconds...