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Hey guys, as the title says, I have developed a slight draw with my irons. It's not much but it is noticeable, I used to either hit my irons absolutely dead straight or at worst have about a 10ft fade or so. I bought new irons and this is when it started happening. They are forged blades and line up different then my old ones, I wonder if this could be the source? I have been eliminating the draw over time as I get used to them, but still if I hit a bad shot it draws when it used to fade. Feedback?

In my Diablo Edge Tour/ Titliest Stand Bag:
Driver: Nike VR Pro 8.5* w/ Myazaki 43g X
3 Wood: Nike VR Pro II 13.5* w/ Diamana Whiteboard 83g X
5 Wood: Cobra S9-1 Pro 18* w/ Diamana Whiteboard 83g X

Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 21* w/ Prolaunch Red X
Irons: 4-7 Titleist 712 CB, 8-9 712 MB w/ TT Dynamic Gold X100

Wedges: 46* Vokey SM4, 54* Vokey SM4, 60* TMade ATV

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Belly 43"

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i've never heard anyone complaining about a slight draw...its actually the desired flight path of most good golfers. it's most likely your new irons, you should also notice that the shorter the iron the more draw effect that you are getting. it's normal and its very good. learn to harness the draw, it will help you attack fairways and greens like you never imagined. plus, i don't know about everyone else, but i find it easier to adjust and hit a straight ball or work it left to right by adjusting small parts of my swing rather than having to make adjustments to hit a draw

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Driver: '08 Cobra F Speed LD 10.5 w/UST Proforce V2 Tour Flight stiff

Fairway: Adams Speedline Fast10 3-wood w/Aldila Wasabi stiff
Hybrid: Nickent 3dx 3H
Irons: Nike CCI forged 4-pw Wedges: Nike Victory Red 52 56 60 Putter: Rife Mr. Beasley Balls: Bridgestone B330-RX Tees: epoch

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I'd love to have a slight draw!!!!
909D Comp 9.5* (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-6)
Burner Superfast 3 & 5 woods (house MATRIX OZIK XCON-4.8)
G15 Hybrid 23* (AWT shaft)
G5 5 iron-PW-46*, UW-50*, SW-54 & LW-58 (AWT shaft)
Studio Select Newport 2 Mid SlantGrips: PING cords & Golf Pride New Decade Multi-Coumpound Bag: C-130...
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These guys beat me to the punch - If I were you I'd learn to embrace it. It wouldn't hurt to understand WHY its happening, but yeah - definitely prefer a draw vs. a fade.

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Nothing has probably changed,The softer metals used to make forged irons is just highlighting your draw.It was always there,but you diddnt notice.Its why we use forged irons,for their shot shaping capabilities. Enjoy your new clubs

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Taylor made 3 wood
Mizuno HIFLI 21*
Mizuno MX 25's 4-pwMizuno MX series wedges 50, 56*/11 & 60*Bettinardi C02 putter4 bottles of pilsner,2 packs cigars

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Maybe you need to be fitted for them,you might need the (lie)degree's set for you.

aeroburner tp 10.5 stiff
superfast tp 2.0 3 wood stiff
Halo 25 and taylormade tp 19 degree hybrids
miura cb 202 and wedge
tp 52* wedge, tp 56* taylormade spider mallet putter

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Nothing has probably changed,The softer metals used to make forged irons is just highlighting your draw.It was always there,but you diddnt notice.Its why we use forged irons,for their shot shaping capabilities. Enjoy your new clubs

Actually, every study pretty much ever has shown that there is no difference between forged and cast irons.

They don't play different, they don't feel different, they aren't different. The different way clubs are made don't matter, the only difference is hosel, offset, toe weight, heel weight, etc. One of the best feeling clubs I have ever hit was the Cleveland CG1 black pearls which is cast. The Callaway X-20 tours are cast. The CG Red's which are very popular are cast. A lot of PGA guys played the R7 TP's which are cast. The CG1 black pearls were highly workable and a cast blade compare this to the Mizuno forged huge cavity backs which aren't very workable in comparison. http://golf.about.com/od/faqs/f/cast_forged.htm http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...s_/ai_54378712

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Actually, every study pretty much ever has shown that there is no difference between forged and cast irons.

If that is the case Grant and Ive no reason to doubt what you say,are we being led up the proverbial garden path by the advertising of the companies making forged irons.ie Mizuno,

In The Bag
Mizuno MX 560 Driver
Taylor made 3 wood
Mizuno HIFLI 21*
Mizuno MX 25's 4-pwMizuno MX series wedges 50, 56*/11 & 60*Bettinardi C02 putter4 bottles of pilsner,2 packs cigars

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If that is the case Grant and Ive no reason to doubt what you say,are we being led up the proverbial garden path by the advertising of the companies making forged irons.ie Mizuno,

Well the big benefit of a forged blade is it can be tweaked a lot easier than most cast irons.

A forged blade you can tweak lie angle and loft virtually endlessly where as if you go past a couple of degrees a cast iron can snap which is why a lot of shops do not want to bend cast irons. For a brand like Mizuno that is mainly aimed at the better players that will not play off the shelf equipment because they need specific lengths, lie angles, and lofts that is a good thing because then you can get a club tailor made for you right off the shelf and you don't have to custom order everything. But Vijay was playing cast CG 1's. Retief Goosen plays cast R7 TP's, Sergio plays cast R7 TP's too, anyone on Tour who plays the CG Red's or Yellow's are playing cast clubs, the list goes on and on and I seriously doubt those players would play cast if forged was truly better.

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I'd kill to get my slight draw back. Turned into a hook and could never reel it in after that. Consciously hitting fades now.

Life would be a lot easier if I could just hit the dang ball straight.
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It's possible that it's some subtle difference in these irons compared to your old ones, but more likely a subtle difference in your grip, stance, etc. The fact is, your clubface is more closed at impact now than it used to be (when you were fading). It's not much, just ever so slightly.

I wouldn't let it bother me. Many good players play a draw. The trick is to not let that draw turn into a hook. ;)

A lot of people will tell you good golfers prefer a draw. Well, yes and no. If your term for "good" golfer is someone that's like a 5 handicap, then yes, they probably prefer a draw over a fade. If we're talking tour pro, I think you'll see that majority of those guys embrace a fade and will do anything to be able to swing full without the fear of a hook creeping up out of know where. I've went to the Memorial last year and the Ryder Cup this year and it seems that most everyone plays a fade as their go to shot although obviously, they can draw it at will too.
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first off, thanks everyone for the feedback.

i think the draw is a result of my new irons being they are a different weight and less of an offset. the more i play the more the draw goes away. i have known how to hit a draw and a fade for quite some time now, but i could always, always, hit my irons straight. it was frustrating at first but i am adjusting the more i play with the new irons. thanks alot guys!

In my Diablo Edge Tour/ Titliest Stand Bag:
Driver: Nike VR Pro 8.5* w/ Myazaki 43g X
3 Wood: Nike VR Pro II 13.5* w/ Diamana Whiteboard 83g X
5 Wood: Cobra S9-1 Pro 18* w/ Diamana Whiteboard 83g X

Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 21* w/ Prolaunch Red X
Irons: 4-7 Titleist 712 CB, 8-9 712 MB w/ TT Dynamic Gold X100

Wedges: 46* Vokey SM4, 54* Vokey SM4, 60* TMade ATV

Putter: Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Belly 43"

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i think the draw is a result of my new irons being they are a different weight and less of an offset.

If anything, the irons having less offset would promote a fade. That's why majority of "game improvement" irons marketed toward the higher handicap player have a lot of offset... to attempt to reduce their slice.

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Regarding your draw, are the grip on the new club smaller? I have the same problem drawing all my clubs and have learned to take the club slightly outside on my backswing and sometime keep the face open before I start the backswing.

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Titleist 910 F15 & 21 degree fairway wood
Titleist 910 hybrid 24 degree
Mizuno Mp33 5 - PW
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I'd love to have a slight draw!!!!

Agreed! I wouldpay good money to trade my fade for your draw.

Stop complaining about being good at golf. Only joking.

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905r 10.5 Graphite Design YS-6+ R
909 F2 15.5 Aldila VooDoo Fairway S
Benross VeloCT Resuce 21 Grafalloy ProLaunch Platinum R MX300s 4-PW KBS Tour S MP-T10 50/8 Chrome 54/11 and 60/7 Studio Select Newport II 35"

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