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post #127 of 140

if you by a sharpener that is designed to sharpen/reshape/clean grooves to USGA standards then it will never take those grooves past the maximum limit allowed

 

Unless you are determined to cheat and you mis-use the tool to seriously guage out the grooves past their limit,..in which case shame on you,..

 

 

post #128 of 140
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Originally Posted by carpediem4300 View Post

if you by a sharpener that is designed to sharpen/reshape/clean grooves to USGA standards then it will never take those grooves past the maximum limit allowed

 

Unless you are determined to cheat and you mis-use the tool to seriously guage out the grooves past their limit,..in which case shame on you,..

 

 

 

I have to disagree with this.  None of these tools limit the depth or side to side motion of the cutting edge so there is nothing stopping you from making grooves wider or deeper than the rules require.  This is even more true for post 2010 grooves if they have a rounded shoulder.  I don't see how any of these tools will recreate the correct rounded shoulder after it's been flattened with use.   I personally don't have any problem with people using these tools, but assuming you're getting perfectly legal grooves is a mistake.

 

My irons are about 4 years old and definitely don't generate anything close to the spin I used to get.  I ordered the x6 tool from http://www.par70.com/ last weekend and it arrived quickly.  Seems like a nicely made tool with U and V cutters.  When I started on my clubs, the grooves on my wedges were so flattened that the U (I have a old U groove irons) shaped cutter wouldn't even pass through the groove at all.  After a few light passes (w/ motor oil) the tool passed nicely down the groove so it does seem to work well.  I haven't tried them on the course yet but I expect a big improvement.  FYI I don't play competition golf at all so I don't care if they're a little out of spec.

 

Besides, if this tool lets me spend my $$$ on other things instead of new irons this year I'll be very pleased.  Assuming this to be true, I promptly went out and bought a RocketBallz high loft 3 wood...

 

 

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post #129 of 140

Groove Sharpening Tools

Does anyone else use these on their irons and wedges?  If so how often do you sharpen your grooves?

post #130 of 140
No way, most of those tools gouge out the grooves.. simple wooden tee works in cleaning the grooves along with a brass brush. I've seen clubs from people who do this, some places won't even resell them.
post #131 of 140

Groove sharpening tool

Does anyone know of a good groove sharpener? Do they make them for specific makes?
post #132 of 140

Typically sold for U or V grooves. I have a couple and they are similar. I use both ends, the U side to sharpen and the V side on the course to clean clubs.

post #133 of 140

This is a rather touchy subject especially if you're planning on playing in USGA sponsored events. In the past when I've noticed that if my wedge shots appeared to "leak" to the right on approach shots, I'd take my wedges into a practice bunker and swing them into the sand with a steep angle to really dig them out of the sand. Do this 12 or 15 times and you'll notice that the grooves give you the original bite you had when you first bought them. Plus this is probably the only way you can legally sharpen them without altering the depth of the grooves. Hope this helps.

post #134 of 140

I, too find the anger about a fellow golf nut asking about a groove sharpener a little discomforting.

 

I now posit the following questions...

 

1)  Which wedge of the formerly conforming groove construction seems to have the sharpest grooves?

 

2)  How long can I play my formerly conforming groove construction wedges that everyone used to play not two years ago in my local member member?  And can I rub it in when I two hop and check a pitch to my playing partner?... Do I get bonus points if they are a Sand Trap member?

 

3)  Is it bad if I put a stripe of vaseline on my towel that gets swiped across my driver face before I hit?

 

And Most Importantly... Anyone who makes a bitter beer face to the previous three questions....

 

4) Can I hawkeye your approach and subsequent address and contact with the golf ball as you meet it in the rough or hell fairway... or hell marking and replacing the ball on your every shot?

 

I don't give a damn what you do... just play the ball down.  Something many of the hecklers in this thread probably do not stay true to... Those guys aye carumbing a groove sharpener also probably wear black golf shoes with shorts and think it looks cool.

post #135 of 140

TarBaby! Where have been all these years? Repeating high school? 

post #136 of 140

Groove sharpening

I was going to post query about groove sharpening tools. Moot point however, given that I ordered one anyway. But FWIW, plenty of info in the archives. I have to continually remind myself to check before posting. My irons are old, so it probably can't hurt and may or may not make a difference.

 

In retrospect, I guess I just "did" make such a post.  Oh well.....

post #137 of 140

FWIW I used one on my old 845s and while I can't say it sharpened the grooves with enough work it did take some of the small nicks/pits out. Word of caution be careful dragging it across the club. Doesn't take much pressure to get metal shavings and I put some nasty scratches on smooth part of the face a few times. At best it cleaned the clubs up a bit and I felt a tad more confident standing over the clubs seeing cleaner grooves, could actually see the bare metal where the tool made a mark.

post #138 of 140
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Originally Posted by Dave2512 View Post

FWIW I used one on my old 845s and while I can't say it sharpened the grooves with enough work it did take some of the small nicks/pits out. Word of caution be careful dragging it across the club. Doesn't take much pressure to get metal shavings and I put some nasty scratches on smooth part of the face a few times. At best it cleaned the clubs up a bit and I felt a tad more confident standing over the clubs seeing cleaner grooves, could actually see the bare metal where the tool made a mark.

did you use the "V" groove end, or the "U" groove end?

post #139 of 140

oh, I tried looking it up but could not get a direct answer.  Are Hogan Edge Irons  "V" or "U"?  I can't tell by looking with my bum vision.  The tool I ordered says it can be used for either. I am assuming it has two ends.

post #140 of 140
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Originally Posted by Hacker James View Post

did you use the "V" groove end, or the "U" groove end?

Both, 845s are square groove but the V end works great for cleaning clubs. Though I wouldn't use it on my new irons, no reason to. I have several old iron sets and used the tool on all of them. At least I tried to, some irons had grooves wider than the tool. It didn't do much if anything for my forged, chromed irons. Finish was too hard and brittle. Worked fine on the older cast irons. Like I said it took shavings out of my 845s.

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