Originally Posted by Fourputt
Until Tiger came along, Jack was it. I don't care what arguments you try to make for Jones or Hogan or Snead, they just don't hold water. Up until 5 years ago, Tiger was on a clear pace to put himself on top of Jack and the rest. Now, I'm less certain of his standing. Again, I point to the variables in their careers, which are always going to leave a significant doubt unless Tiger manages to win a few more majors, no matter which way you tend to lean. I'm a Jack leaner, but I can see the argument for Tiger. I just have trouble going that way until he shows me that he can overcome his demons. I simply don't think that he has the mental strength that Jack had, and I consider that to be a factor in the equation.
I completely agree with your reasoning, but come to the opposite conclusion.
Tiger's and Jack's careers are so similar that there is no clear winner. The two most important factors for me are win total and majors. Jack was numerically ahead in both categories last year, so Jack was the man. When Tiger passed Jack in win total, I had to re-think it. Now they're split on the two most important measures (IMO). So I have to go to the smaller, less tangible measures.
Multi-win seasons and streaks: Tiger.
Overall majors performance: Jack by a mile (and that's giving Tiger extra credit for seemingly impossible margins of victory).
Cut streak: Tiger's cut streak is so impressive, it has to factor in.
How the fv<# did he do that? Tiger has tons of these, from seemingly impossible shots in clutch situations to the 91-hole Open victory on a broken leg.
Then there's another factor that I give a ton of credit to Tiger for: comebacks. Tiger has been seemingly out--washed up--twice in his career. In 2004 because of the swing change, and then from 2010-2011 because of injuries and scandal. But then Tiger rebuilt his swing--again--and dominated. He hasn't won a major yet, but he did win nine times in about 18-19 months. It's huge for a golfer to do that once in a career. Tiger did it twice (and counting).
So, all in, Tiger passed Jack this year IMO. I think he came back from his "demons." You don't, because he hasn't won a major yet, which is a fair opinion--I just don't fully share it.