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Poll Results: Tiger or Jack: Who's the best?

 
  • 69% (1634)
    Tiger Woods is the man
  • 30% (716)
    Jack Nicklaus is my favorite
2350 Total Votes  
post #4429 of 4671
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Originally Posted by ScouseJohnny View Post
 
 
I seriously doubt whether Mr. Nicklaus gives a damn. I don't think he's looking for any advantage in this contest.
 
 

 

I wish I could agree with you but his record and his statements say otherwise.  And it makes me sad because Jack was my first golf hero.

post #4430 of 4671
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Originally Posted by ScouseJohnny View Post
 
 
I seriously doubt whether Mr. Nicklaus gives a damn. I don't think he's looking for any advantage in this contest.
 
Jack Nicklaus's place in sporting history is secure and deservedly earned. He's coming up on 75; the great elder statesman of golf - loved and revered - again, deservedly so.
 
No record stands for ever - it's like when Bannister broke the 4 minute mile - he must have known that very same day that his record would eventually be smashed.
 
Even if Tiger Woods does get to 19, what's to say some Chinese wunderkind won't show up a decade from now and win 20 majors by his 30th birthday? And even if that happens, it won't diminish Tiger's achievements as a golfer (nor anyone else's).

I think Jack does care, if he didn't he would have never suggested the metric for the greatest golfer be changed.  I don't fault him for caring, we all want to leave a legacy when we're gone and given all of Jack's accomplishments he should be discussed as one of, if not the greatest golfers to ever play.

 

I agree most athletes acknowledge their records may eventually get broken but that doesn't reduce the importance or pride one has in holding the record.

 

The discussion is who's the greatest, I think we all agree both Tiger and Jack have had amazing careers so there's no intent to diminish either of their careers.

post #4431 of 4671

Ok then, Jack's better, or maybe Tiger is. The truth is they were all good and there's no measurable way to know if any one was better than the other, short of using a time machine.

 

Any way it's golf, you can be king of the world on Thursday and blow darts on Sunday.

 

I'm done on this subject.

post #4432 of 4671
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Originally Posted by ScouseJohnny View Post
 
 
I seriously doubt whether Mr. Nicklaus gives a damn. I don't think he's looking for any advantage in this contest.
 
Jack Nicklaus's place in sporting history is secure and deservedly earned. He's coming up on 75; the great elder statesman of golf - loved and revered - again, deservedly so.
 
No record stands for ever - it's like when Bannister broke the 4 minute mile - he must have known that very same day that his record would eventually be smashed.
 
Even if Tiger Woods does get to 19, what's to say some Chinese wunderkind won't show up a decade from now and win 20 majors by his 30th birthday? And even if that happens, it won't diminish Tiger's achievements as a golfer (nor anyone else's).

+1  Very well said.  

post #4433 of 4671

http://thesandtrap.com/b/thrash_talk/tiger_vs_jack

 

More data in Tiger's favor of being the greatest of all time. 

post #4434 of 4671
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Originally Posted by lewisgl View Post
 

+1  Very well said.  


I agree!  Very well said.  I would rather wait a few years when can look back on Tiger's entire career to have this debate.

post #4435 of 4671

There was and always be a Mr. Hogan, Mr. Nelson, Mr. Jones, Mr. Palmer, Mr. Player, etc. There will never be a Mr.Tiger,there are are a lot more reasons than one.

 

 

                                                                                                                                                              sweeper1

post #4436 of 4671
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Originally Posted by saevel25 View Post
 

http://thesandtrap.com/b/thrash_talk/tiger_vs_jack

 

More data in Tiger's favor of being the greatest of all time. 


So if McIlroy wins say 10 majors 50-60 tourneys worldwide, would he then be the GOAT?

post #4437 of 4671
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Originally Posted by sweeper1 View Post

There was and always be a Mr. Hogan, Mr. Nelson, Mr. Jones, Mr. Palmer, Mr. Player, etc. There will never be a Mr.Tiger,there are are a lot more reasons than one.


                                                                                                                                                              sweeper1
Yeah, you're right.














They'll probably call him Mr. Woods.
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post #4438 of 4671
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Originally Posted by RH31 View Post
 

So if McIlroy wins say 10 majors 50-60 tourneys worldwide, would he then be the GOAT?

 

Comment on the article itself, please.

post #4439 of 4671
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Originally Posted by sweeper1 View Post
 

There was and always be a Mr. Hogan, Mr. Nelson, Mr. Jones, Mr. Palmer, Mr. Player, etc. There will never be a Mr.Tiger,there are are a lot more reasons than one.

 

 

                                                                                                                                                              sweeper1


Don't count on it.

post #4440 of 4671
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Originally Posted by sweeper1 View Post
 

There was and always be a Mr. Hogan, Mr. Nelson, Mr. Jones, Mr. Palmer, Mr. Player, etc. There will never be a Mr.Tiger,there are are a lot more reasons than one.

 

 

                                                                                                                                                              sweeper1

:doh:

post #4441 of 4671

How about this argument; The greatest golfer of all time has not been born yet..................:surrender:

post #4442 of 4671
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Originally Posted by RH31 View Post
 


So if McIlroy wins say 10 majors 50-60 tourneys worldwide, would he then be the GOAT?

 

Very possibly.  IMO you have to look at a lot of things, things on which he has made a very good start.  Which is kind of what the Tiger supporters have been saying all along, vis a vis Jack. (to bring it back on topic)

post #4443 of 4671
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Originally Posted by RH31 View Post
 


So if McIlroy wins say 10 majors 50-60 tourneys worldwide, would he then be the GOAT?

 

 

No. Not in my book. Jack would still be the GOAT (assuming Tiger fails to break his record of 18 majors).

post #4444 of 4671

At this point I've seen enough posts that reduce what I think is a complex question to the simple "18 > 14" that I owe @turtleback an apology: I was wrong about the number of people who simply compare two numbers (and sometimes, inexplicably to me, the number 19).

 

You were right, and I was wrong. A lot of people seem to reduce this to "18 > 14."

 

P.S. Did you read this, @turtleback?

 

P.P.S. Edited to hopefully be less snarky. I've probably failed, but I tried. :-)

post #4445 of 4671
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post
 

At this point I've seen enough posts that reduce what I think is a complex question to the simple "18 > 14" that I owe @turtleback an apology: I was wrong about the number of people who simply compare two numbers (and sometimes, inexplicably to me, the number 19).

 

You were right, and I was wrong. A lot of people seem to reduce this to "18 > 14."

 

P.S. Did you read this, @turtleback?

 

P.P.S. Edited to hopefully be less snarky. I've probably failed, but I tried. :-)

Yes I did and I appreciate it.  It almost HAS to come down to that for them because there is really nothing else on that side of the question.  

post #4446 of 4671
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Originally Posted by iacas View Post

At this point I've seen enough posts that reduce what I think is a complex question to the simple "18 > 14" that I owe @turtleback
 an apology: I was wrong about the number of people who simply compare two numbers (and sometimes, inexplicably to me, the number 19).

You were right, and I was wrong. A lot of people seem to reduce this to "18 > 14."

P.S. Did you read this, @turtleback
?

P.P.S. Edited to hopefully be less snarky. I've probably failed, but I tried. a1_smile.gif

Well now it's just outright cheeky.
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