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Gapwedge Well Established Member

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I tend to get well ahead of the swing with my hips on the downswing which I think is pulling my club head away from the ball just enough causing the ball strike to occur out toward the toe. My transition at the top of my backswing is probably too quick as well resulting in the hips opening up way too early on the downswing.
Does anyone have any practice tips to avoid these swing faults? I seem to struggle with this more than any other swing fault which results in a less than a pure hit.

Thanks.

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I do that from time to time, myself. The best advice i can give is just slow down. You're probably making too aggressive of a move at the ball.
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Good tip. I have a tendency to go after it hard when under pressure and when I am on the range.

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Yeah. Ive noticed when i get too aggresive from the top i throw myself off plane and my right arm will slip out over my left. Because my left is now under my right arm the clubhead gets pulled a little inside.
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Could explain the thin shots as well.

Ping hoofer bag Ping G15 10.5* Driver, stock reg shaft Ping G15 3 metal, Aldila 75g Stiff shaft Ping G15 5 metal, Aldila 75g Stiff shaft Mizuno MP 69 3-PW irons, DG S300 shafts Mizuno MP R12 black nickel 52* and 56* gap and sand wedges, DG spinner W+ shafts Mizuno 20* FLiHi Clk hybrids, Project X 5.5 shaft 25 year old Bulls Eye putter, 33" or Ping Anser 2 Scottsdale 34" First round of golf was in 1963 at age 10. Best round -1. 2 Holes-In-One.

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Found out today I was fanning my club face open on the start of the backswing. Once I started taking the club face back square I was again hitting shots in the sweet spot. I worked on 3/4 shots stopping my backswing at waist level and observing if the clubface was fanned open or square. Sometimes it is the small things. I am sure next week it will be something else.

Ping hoofer bag Ping G15 10.5* Driver, stock reg shaft Ping G15 3 metal, Aldila 75g Stiff shaft Ping G15 5 metal, Aldila 75g Stiff shaft Mizuno MP 69 3-PW irons, DG S300 shafts Mizuno MP R12 black nickel 52* and 56* gap and sand wedges, DG spinner W+ shafts Mizuno 20* FLiHi Clk hybrids, Project X 5.5 shaft 25 year old Bulls Eye putter, 33" or Ping Anser 2 Scottsdale 34" First round of golf was in 1963 at age 10. Best round -1. 2 Holes-In-One.

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Found out today I was fanning my club face open on the start of the backswing. Once I started taking the club face back square I was again hitting shots in the sweet spot. I worked on 3/4 shots stopping my backswing at waist level and observing if the clubface was fanned open or square. Sometimes it is the small things. I am sure next week it will be something else.

I've been through this too. When I tend to fan, its 1 of 3 things:

-my grip is too weak -my left arm, at address, is not close enough to my body -I'm taking the club back too fast and shallow Glad you got it back, just remember it, that's the hardest part of golf for me when trying to solve "issues"

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a drill for not hitting it on the toe is tee up two balls in front of each other and set up to the forward ball and hit it without hitting the ball behind it.

I am having a hard time visualizing what you are saying. Is this to promote an inside to out swing path to avoid hitting the back ball? My normal ball flight is a slight draw so I am trying to visualize how this would avoid toe shots. I could use such a drill. Just trying to understand.

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My misses tend to be 20% to the toe of center (via computer video analysis)
The only way to determine what you are doing is to get your swing recorded with quality video. I'm sure there are dozens of reasons for toe hits.

This is what I was doing wrong (some of it my seem counter-intuitive)
At address, my arms were too close to my body and hands were too low with club shaft pointing at zipper instead of my belt buckle.
Thus, I was crowding the ball at address and then crowding the ball at impact, resulting in occasional toe hits. I had to change the lie of my club to flat on the ground (with my new address position), from slightly toe up at address.
If you look most of the pros, there is a fist-sized gap (if looking from behind down the swing line) between their hands and belt buckle. This gap, at impact, frees the club head through the hitting area (with arms more extended/less chicken wing)......thus, more center hits.

I realize the above is complicated-----it is (emphasizing need of video)

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My misses tend to be 20% to the toe of center (via computer video analysis)

I had the opposite problem. I would have a fist and half or almost two fists width between belt buckle and hands. While I would set up to the ball correctly, on the downswing things would fall apart and I would have to correct it - my arms extended on the downswing resulting in hosel shots. Now, my focus right before my backswing is to feel like my hands are close to my waist (even though it feels like they are close they really aren't, I've just been doing it wrong for so long!).

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Saw a couple of golf teaching videos on TGC. A couple of things about making toe contact. One is the tension in the forearms and shoulders cause the muscles to contract and naturally pulls the clubhead back from the ball at impact. Secondly, if the feet balance is more on the toes on the backswing the balance will shift to the heels on the moment of impact which also results in the clubhead being pulled back from the center to the toe at impact. An interesting video. Obviously, I have a few things to work on.

Ping hoofer bag Ping G15 10.5* Driver, stock reg shaft Ping G15 3 metal, Aldila 75g Stiff shaft Ping G15 5 metal, Aldila 75g Stiff shaft Mizuno MP 69 3-PW irons, DG S300 shafts Mizuno MP R12 black nickel 52* and 56* gap and sand wedges, DG spinner W+ shafts Mizuno 20* FLiHi Clk hybrids, Project X 5.5 shaft 25 year old Bulls Eye putter, 33" or Ping Anser 2 Scottsdale 34" First round of golf was in 1963 at age 10. Best round -1. 2 Holes-In-One.

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