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Pulling My Irons

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Played the best 9 holes of my life the other day. Was Hitting the driver very straight and leaving myself with great approach shots with my Irons and wedges.


Generally my Irons and Wedges are my strong suit but for some reason I was pulling my short Irons and Wedges to the left and missed 3 or 4 greens because of it.



What could be causing this?
post #2 of 22

Re: Pulling My Irons

Pulls are caused by an out to in swing path with a clubface that is closed to the target, but square to the path of the out to in swing. As for the fix, hard to tell without seeing your swing.
post #3 of 22

Re: Pulling My Irons

when i start pulling my shots, i go to the range and keep my feet together to work on shots. i mean, stand there and hit shots with your feet actually touching each other. my coach showed me that practice tip and it has always helped. also, your irons could be bent a tad to upright for you
post #4 of 22

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Originally Posted by RocketSauce View Post
when i start pulling my shots, i go to the range and keep my feet together to work on shots. i mean, stand there and hit shots with your feet actually touching each other. my coach showed me that practice tip and it has always helped. also, your irons could be bent a tad to upright for you
^--- Great drill for balance too, if you're pulling irons what you could do is work on "throwing your clubhead" down the line towards the target. even if it's nice and easy, throw a ball down and even start with 3/4 swings to get your front half used to following through the right way instead of pulling your hips out early opening your front side, making your upper body compensate, squaring the clubface early and pulling the ball. and, if you want to try something else, take two of your irons...put them parallel roughly a foot apart and put the ball between them and focus on taking your divot straight to your target...if you follow on a 'pull' line you'll hit your clubs, personally i'd start off slower since it's your clubs, or, find two drill sticks to use.
post #5 of 22

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Originally Posted by Gioguy21 View Post
^--- Great drill for balance too, if you're pulling irons what you could do is work on "throwing your clubhead" down the line towards the target. even if it's nice and easy, throw a ball down and even start with 3/4 swings to get your front half used to following through the right way instead of pulling your hips out early opening your front side, making your upper body compensate, squaring the clubface early and pulling the ball. and, if you want to try something else, take two of your irons...put them parallel roughly a foot apart and put the ball between them and focus on taking your divot straight to your target...if you follow on a 'pull' line you'll hit your clubs, personally i'd start off slower since it's your clubs, or, find two drill sticks to use.
i totally agree that your balance might be your issue. maybe your opening up your lead shoulder through impact.
post #6 of 22

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This is a huge problem for me. The reason I think I do this is because my arms out race my hips and I come over the top. I also seem to hit pulls when I try to hit half shots. I am also going to get the lies checked.
post #7 of 22

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I thought it was the other way..... that if the lie was too flat for you it caused pulls? Am I mistaken?

EDIT:

Just looked it up and I was totally wrong.... I guess that's something else that may be helping all my pulls......... though I'm pretty sure its mostly me.
post #8 of 22

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My nemesis as well....I fight it all the time. My issue is a bad left knee so I dont get the little bump over to the left side going.....then my shoulders and arms take over slightly casting the club over the top for a pull draw.....ugly.....I have to really work on tempo....feeling a smooth connected transition from the top. Letting my weight get over to the left side. I almost have to feel like I have dead arms on the backswing- very connected in the armpits to my sides....less armswing and more body turn back and thru seems to get me on my left side at impact more. I think of turning the triangle formed by arms and the base of that triangle is my chest. The one piece takeaway- I think of my sternum turning back even with the clubhead for the first foot....all this helps me stay connected...get to the left side......and strike it solidly with less pulls....
post #9 of 22

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Originally Posted by Leftygolfer View Post
This is a huge problem for me. The reason I think I do this is because my arms out race my hips and I come over the top. I also seem to hit pulls when I try to hit half shots. I am also going to get the lies checked.

I was having a terrible time pulling the ball lately and this was my cause. To say it in another way your shoulders are turning first and outracing the hips putting you in a position where an over the top move is almost a certainty. You are set up to most likely yank the ball to the left. The hips must lead the shoulder turn to have a proper swing sequence.
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 

Re: Pulling My Irons

Thanks for all the help everyone.


I am going to go play a par 3 course tonight and see if I can right the ship
post #11 of 22

Re: Pulling My Irons

Originally Posted by Leftygolfer View Post
This is a huge problem for me. The reason I think I do this is because my arms out race my hips and I come over the top. I also seem to hit pulls when I try to hit half shots. I am also going to get the lies checked.
I usually seem to pull my iron shots when my hips come through way too early.. I close the face as a result and bam... 20yds to the left. It happens as well with my wedges once in awhile but I've gotten that taken care of.

Usually when my hips lag too far behind my arms, I end up sending it off in a gross push slice.
post #12 of 22

Re: Pulling My Irons

Originally Posted by jlh1508 View Post
Played the best 9 holes of my life the other day. Was Hitting the driver very straight and leaving myself with great approach shots with my Irons and wedges.


Generally my Irons and Wedges are my strong suit but for some reason I was pulling my short Irons and Wedges to the left and missed 3 or 4 greens because of it.



What could be causing this?
I sometimes practice hitting at the target with just my left arm (right handed player). Practice following through at the target and you shouldn't have any problems.
post #13 of 22

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I've been pulling a bunch recently too, either that or thinning on my fades which only leads me to wide misses, terrible combination. Anyways, I find that my pulls are a result of me leaning back at impact and I end up pulling in an attempt not to fall back on my butt. I swing with basically a one plane swing so I don't really come from outside - in on my swing path. For me, I gotta stay in balance and make sure I finish in balance and it stems from the legs for me. When I fire my swing with my legs, it's more powerful, I'm in better balance from more interaction with the ground and keeps my body lines straight connecting my feet, knees, hips, shoulders. When I swing from the shoulders alone, or start from the shoulders, it's harder to sync my body rotation so I end up getting of balance and falling backwards.

I do think your troubles come somewhat from hanging on the right side as the above idea applies to a two plane swing as well, not turning in sync, but with a two plane swing, the sollution lies more in tempo and timing for balance instead of a more aggressive move for a one planer. Well, these are my attempts at an explanation, hope it helps.
post #14 of 22

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Early weight transfer to the left side is the key to avoiding pulls or slices or a variety of other ills. Make sure that you turn into your right leg not over it. The lateral shift to the target must occur at the end of the backswing by allowing the right hip to rotate deep. Trying to perform weight transfer in the downswing is a timing nightmare fraught with inconsistency. The downswing must be pure hip rotation with passive arms no timing or manipulation of clubhead. Watch Hogan video for guidance.
post #15 of 22

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Originally Posted by tm22721 View Post
Early weight transfer to the left side is the key to avoiding pulls or slices or a variety of other ills. Make sure that you turn into your right leg not over it. The lateral shift to the target must occur at the end of the backswing by allowing the right hip to rotate deep. Trying to perform weight transfer in the downswing is a timing nightmare fraught with inconsistency. The downswing must be pure hip rotation with passive arms no timing or manipulation of clubhead. Watch Hogan video for guidance.
Yes...I agree as my misses are to the left caused by my upper body out racing my lower body (my coach calls it a "Re-Route") which unless you time it perfectly will result in a closed club face at impact...the key is always the lower body and getting it started first with a passive upper body. Sequence is the key and if you watch Pro's warm up on the range, 90% of them begin by finding their sequence with easy 1/2 - 3/4 swings and then work their way up to full swings.
post #16 of 22

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Originally Posted by lhshurdl3r View Post
I usually seem to pull my iron shots when my hips come through way too early.. I close the face as a result and bam... 20yds to the left. It happens as well with my wedges once in awhile but I've gotten that taken care of.

Usually when my hips lag too far behind my arms, I end up sending it off in a gross push slice.

Very interesting...I would think the total opposite would happen as follows:

Scenario #1 - "hips come through way too early.. I close the face as a result and bam... 20yds to the left." Usually when you fire your hips way to early you tend to hit a push or fade as your hands get stuck behind you or you could be doing an unbelievable job of flipping your hands through impact.

Scenario #2 - "Usually when my hips lag too far behind my arms, I end up sending it off in a gross push slice." Usually when your hips are late your upperbody will get through first thereby sending the ball left. The only way I could imagine hitting a push with late hips would be if you are yanking the club back way too far inside on your backswing and are getting mega stuck on the downswing...or you are holding on and not releasing the club at impact at all.

Hope this helps but the key no matter what your swing problem (grip, posture, alignment, backswing path, etc...) will always be firing your hips aggressively through impact...
post #17 of 22

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I'm working on really really increasing the amount of my hip movement forward through my swing (see my lesson dilemma thread), and I'm noticing a few things:

1) When I don't push the hips through as much as I should, I pull the ball.
2) When I push the hips through but my head also goes forward, I push the ball.
3) When the hips go through but the head stays back, I hit a good shot.

None of that's bizarre or anything - that's pretty much how things go. You can look at it the way I've said it or the other way: arms outrace body = pull, arms get stuck behind body = push.

Kind of classifies as "common sense" for golf.
post #18 of 22

Re: Pulling My Irons

it can be caused by many things. but when i start pulling the ball like i am now i go to the range and slow my swing down and make sure that i extend my arms on my follow through. sometimes widening your stance may help becuase it keeps your upper body from turning so quickly.
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