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Rumor on the street is that the Pro V1x is going to be "no more" after this year. Perhaps the V1 and the V1x are so similar now that the lines will be merged. I dunno… I may be using the B330 by then anyway.

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Have you seen the new Prov1 yet? I saw a picture of it the other day. Oddly enough, it had the hexagon design similar to the Callaway balls.. could have sworn they patent'ed that.
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Have you seen the new Prov1 yet? I saw a picture of it the other day. Oddly enough, it had the hexagon design similar to the Callaway balls.. could have sworn they patent'ed that.

From what I've heard, the hex dimples are supposed to be the new pro v0 coming out around the same time as the updated v1. But with titleist, who the heck knows . . .

I don't know if it's true, but there is a story circulating around that after Titleist came out with the ProV1, supposedly the USGA was on the verge of making rules against the technology found the V1. Before USGA had a chance to make the rule, Titleist gave their technology to every golf ball company on the market and allowed them to use it in their lines to at least make it more difficult for the USGA to make their ruling against all the companies. That explains why so many companies were so far behind Titleist and then all of a sudden have been able to make better golf balls recently. With all the talk about deadening golf balls, perhaps this is Callaway's way of saying thanks or maybe the USGA was discussing a ruling against hexagonal dimples. . . .
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Have you seen the new Prov1 yet? I saw a picture of it the other day. Oddly enough, it had the hexagon design similar to the Callaway balls.. could have sworn they patent'ed that.

I haven't actually seen a picture that conclusively shows me hexagonal dimples on the new Pro V1s (or V0s). I've also seen no news of hexagonal dimples. In other words, I think hexagonal dimples on a Titleist ball is a myth.

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iacas,

I have a picture of the ball actually, its posted on another forum, however, since their site is messed up right now, I can't send it.

Here it is:

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Driver Big Bertha Fusion FT-3 (Aldila NVS 55-R 350)
3 Wood ERC Fusion 3w - RGS (RCH Sys 55R)4/5 Wood Big Bertha Fusion 15D Fairway Wood (Aldila NVS 55-R 350)Bag 10.5" orange fusion tour bagPutter Scotty Cameron Newport...
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I edited your post above, and as I said in the other forum, those are round dimples, not hexagonal dimples. That's my opinion.

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I edited your post above, and as I said in the other forum, those are round dimples, not hexagonal dimples. That's my opinion.

IMHO, they look pretty hexagonal, similar six sided patter in the raised areas as the HX tour. Definatley not the old V1 though.

I like the new number too, I don't know why every golf ball company doesn't start their line with 0.
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Our Titleist bag and ball rep just stopped bye. I remembered this thread and asked him about the ball situation. And, here's the scoop...

ProV1s and Xs will still be available. Titleist has simply changed up the cores and shells a bit. The Xs have a slightly different dimple pattern too. But the main thing they did with the Xs was change cores for tee shots, producing less spin. With the 1s and Xs they reduced spin for short iron shots. My guy said the ball won't fly quite as high in short irons shots, they'll have a flatter flight. But spin itself, feel-wise, will stay the same.

They also made changes in the NXT and DT SoLo lines.

As far as something else that's pretty cool that I learned. Their x57 stand bag has an insulated pocket for keeping drinks cool, with a little drain nozle if you want to put ice in there.

And no, the dimples are still round.

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For some reason, the new Pro V1 balls look to have a HEX dimple pattern on TV. Same as the last-generation "new" Pro V1s. Some sort of optical illusion.

That being said, Titliest is excellent at reverse-engineering other products. The Pro V1s only came out after the Maxfli Revolution, Top-Flite Strata and Callaway Rule 35 got to the 3-piece urethane-cover design first.

Not unlike how Scotty Cameron came up with the Futura after the 2-Ball craze started, even though he said he'd been working on it for years. The world is full of amazing coincidences...

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3-wood: Tour Edge Exotics XCG (Aldila DVS Fairway 75 stiff)
hybrid: Sonartec Md 21° (UST Proforce V2 Hybrid 85 stiff)
4-PW: Titleist 755 (Titleist TriSpec Regular)Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design 252.08 bent to 50.5° (Oil...

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That being said, Titliest is excellent at reverse-engineering other products. The Pro V1s only came out after the Maxfli Revolution, Top-Flite Strata and Callaway Rule 35 got to the 3-piece urethane-cover design first.

Supposedly the Pro V1 was designed long ago, but Titleist didn't think it would sell and held it for three years. Kinda like the Futura thing, but who knows. We're looking to get an interview with the guy who designed it... The Futura I don't believe he'd been working on all along. It's so not "the Cameron style" that there's no way I believe he'd been kicking the idea around.

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Director of Instruction Golf Evolution • Owner, The Sand Trap .com • AuthorLowest Score Wins
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Supposedly

I believe there was actually a lawsuit between Titleist and Maxfli after the Revolution came out, as the Maxfli head of R&D; had just come over from Titleist. There's no doubt that something like the Pro V1 had been cooked up in the Titleist lab before the other solid-core urethane balls came out, since Titleist had patents on some of the processes (licensed by Callaway for the Rule 35 and CTU 30 balls, as reported years ago by Golfweek). But they still didn't bring it to market until several others got there first--and the tour pros were complaining about their Titleist Professionals getting blown away by the likes of the Rev, Rule 35 and Nike Tour Accuracy.

Turns out that it worked out OK for Titleist in the end.

in the bag today:
Driver: TaylorMade R9 10.5° (Fujikura Motore 65 stiff)
3-wood: Tour Edge Exotics XCG (Aldila DVS Fairway 75 stiff)
hybrid: Sonartec Md 21° (UST Proforce V2 Hybrid 85 stiff)
4-PW: Titleist 755 (Titleist TriSpec Regular)Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design 252.08 bent to 50.5° (Oil...

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