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post #55 of 115
1/4/10 at 1:24pm

Re: "Secrets of the Short Game" by Phil Mickelson

I just got mine from Amazon and have watched it a couple of times. I think it is a great video and Phil does a great job. The one thing I think he does not address is how to control distance on Pitches. Not Chip! As we all know this is mostly a feel thing. He does not like the clock method for chipping or pitching. For Chipping I agree with this but for a pitch there is nothing wrong with the clock method as long as you are still swinging full from whatever position you stop your backswing. On his demos of pitching he does not address at all how he is controlling his distance. I'm talking about the Pitches outside of 30 yards.
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post #56 of 115
1/4/10 at 4:22pm

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Originally Posted by granitegolf View Post
I just got mine from Amazon and have watched it a couple of times. I think it is a great video and Phil does a great job. The one thing I think he does not address is how to control distance on Pitches. Not Chip! As we all know this is mostly a feel thing. He does not like the clock method for chipping or pitching. For Chipping I agree with this but for a pitch there is nothing wrong with the clock method as long as you are still swinging full from whatever position you stop your backswing. On his demos of pitching he does not address at all how he is controlling his distance. I'm talking about the Pitches outside of 30 yards.
you're right he doesn't... but it didn't bother me as I too am a feel player and distance control is one of the best parts of my game, even from 30-70 yards. I thought the DVD was very wel done and I thought the putting was suprisingly good. I would love to go practice right now, it's just too damned cold.
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post #57 of 115
1/4/10 at 4:40pm

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We got this video for Christmas. Haven't taken a look yet.
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post #58 of 115
1/12/10 at 9:36pm

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have not watched all of the DVD yet but so far so good. Its much more simple than i expected but I do feel he lacks small details that many want to hear. I do think the method works but you have to make little adjustments to fit your own style.
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post #59 of 115
2/22/10 at 4:45pm

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I found the putting instruction very good because, as a lefty, I've never seen basic putting fundamentals displayed very simply by a lefty before. It was nice. Helped me a lot. I picked up the game again last year after a ten-year 'hiatus' and putting is coming more slowly than the rest of it.
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post #60 of 115
2/26/10 at 4:33pm

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This is a great dvd. I would highly reccommend watching these videos, and if you have netflix you can grab it from them. His way of pitching is very usefull once you get the hang of it, the hardest part is keeping the same follow-through speed throughout every shot.
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post #61 of 115
3/8/10 at 2:44pm

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I love an instructional DVD (Leadbetter, Simon Holmes to name just a couple), but never have I seen a presenter/instructor with so much enthusiasm as Phil! My putting's pretty solid already so I didn't want to mess with it too much, but I've started using his 3-foot and 6-foot drills, and adopting the "hinge and hold" for my chipping and so far it's been pretty good! Let's face it, putting/chipping practice isn't the most exciting thing in the world, but I really think PM's enthusiasm has rubbed off on me a bit and has got me a little bit more focussed around the greens. I feel like anything inside 3 foot now is a dead-cert.

There's also a bonus section where he does a couple of trick shots - backwards over the head, and then hitting two balls from the bunker simultaneously. The guy's hilarious. Worth every penny, if you ask me.
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post #62 of 115
3/8/10 at 6:32pm

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phil sounds like a big kid. his instruction is great, but he just seems too chipper, or something. like when he's talking about chipping from the rough and knocks the last ball into the hole. he seems like a good enough guy, just a bit annoying.
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post #63 of 115
3/8/10 at 7:13pm

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I very much enjoyed Phil's instruction. I'm glad he eschews the clockface method of controlling the club. Personally I'd found that unreliable because my club head speed was never consistant enough going through impact. I think the varying lengths of the backswing is an effect of good players controlling distance, not a cause that should be copied.

Having said the above, I'm surprised Phil works with Dave Pelz on his short game, given their fundamental differences.

If I had one gripe with the system, it would be that it should be named "Hinge and... keep the hands in front of the club head during impact, maintaining a flat left wrist". But that's not so catchy ;)
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post #64 of 115
3/30/10 at 9:07pm

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I thought it might be fun to post a few clips from this DVD on the thread. I haven't seen the full movie, but from what I can gather just from these clips, it looks well made. These just drive the flat left wrist at impact fundamental further into my mind. Not at all a bad thing.

EDIT: Upon further review, the Lob Shot clip probably isn't from the DVD. Sorry about that.

Chipping from the rough


The Lob Shot


Bunker Play
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post #65 of 115
5/11/10 at 9:17pm

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I am getting the DVD's tomorrow & having read the comments on here I cant wait to view them. I have always loved the short game esp. from 50 yards & in & my wedges & putter have always been my favourite clubs so any advice from Lefty will be awesome I hope!!
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post #66 of 115
5/11/10 at 10:04pm

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It's a great DVD for the pitching and chipping etc.You may or may not agree with his views on putting, eye position over the ball etc.You forgot his backwards shot Jetfan!

And woters, I thought the dvd was region 1 only?I had to procure it by alternative means...
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post #67 of 115
5/12/10 at 7:21am

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Originally Posted by Tiger Spuds View Post

And woters, I thought the dvd was region 1 only?I had to procure it by alternative means...
I searched high and low to try and find a non-R1 copy and finally found a guy on eBay selling the Dutch R2 version. I have no idea why the only European release seems to be Dutch. I was skeptical, but the DVDs themselves are in full English (with optional Dutch subtitles) and work perfectly on my non multi-region PS3. All looks absolutely legit to me (and I'm a bit of a fake-DVD snob, so I wouldn't settle for anything less!).
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post #68 of 115
5/12/10 at 10:36am

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Originally Posted by burnabao View Post
I searched high and low to try and find a non-R1 copy and finally found a guy on eBay selling the Dutch R2 version. I have no idea why the only European release seems to be Dutch. I was skeptical, but the DVDs themselves are in full English (with optional Dutch subtitles) and work perfectly on my non multi-region PS3. All looks absolutely legit to me (and I'm a bit of a fake-DVD snob, so I wouldn't settle for anything less!).
Strange one isn't it.Phil's guys missed an opportunity not distributing it in Europe.
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post #69 of 115
5/12/10 at 1:17pm

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Originally Posted by Tiger Spuds View Post
And woters, I thought the dvd was region 1 only?I had to procure it by alternative means...
Aha ha! The joys of a multiregional DVD player strike again!!

I have watched the first disc & very impressed with it. Happy I 95% use that hinge/hold thing already...not too sure about his putting ideas tho about apex at impact...hmmm, or the eyes behind & inside, or the forward press lol

The stopping it softly section is utterly superb i really cant wait to try that out later today!!
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post #70 of 115
5/17/10 at 3:01am

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I would highly recommend this one, and especially since you can pick it up on Netflix. Just watched it tonight, so I haven't had a chance to see if his ideas work for me, but its entertaining in any event. The backwards shot was worth the price alone!
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post #71 of 115
5/18/10 at 12:17am

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Well after reading this thread I decided to go ahead and get this video. The one part of my game that i have no confidence in is my short game. Maybe this is the key for me to break 90. I have been hitting my irons and even my driver pretty decent but 50 yards in I pretty much suck.
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post #72 of 115
5/18/10 at 6:45pm

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OK really very impressed with the around the green stuff, really helping ,I|'m now getting more than I ever thought possible out of my Vokey wedges but still undecided about the putting.

Im using the YES squared triangle putting aid to try Phil's putting technique out, cant really day if the forward press is helping or not, will need several proper rounds out on the course to see. I think on straight putts a slight forward press DOES help, not totally swayed on 30/40 lag putts yet...
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