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post #19 of 92
9/1/09 at 6:40pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Originally Posted by Drifterland View Post
Howdy... With all due respect everyone above is telling you how to hit a fade, which ofcourse has it's place, but I will try my best to explane the power fade and how to use it to kick major ass.
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Good post, I think I've read or heard the same explanation before. Will give this a go next time I'm at the range.

It makes sense also. You get the most distance with a draw, the motion coming from the inside on the ball, but a fade offer better accuracy. So, by aiming way off and coming from the inside, the swing path is in reality like a small fade, relative to the target line, but because of the set up, you can swing like hitting a draw.
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post #20 of 92
9/1/09 at 6:49pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
Good post, I think I've read or heard the same explanation before. Will give this a go next time I'm at the range.

It makes sense also. You get the most distance with a draw, the motion coming from the inside on the ball, but a fade offer better accuracy. So, by aiming way off and coming from the inside, the swing path is in reality like a small fade, relative to the target line, but because of the set up, you can swing like hitting a draw.
Yep, you nailed it on the head.
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post #21 of 92
9/2/09 at 3:38am

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Interesting, one of my friends does this and thought it was weird but definitely works well.
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post #22 of 92
9/2/09 at 5:32am
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Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Originally Posted by Drifterland View Post
Howdy... With all due respect everyone above is telling you how to hit a fade, which ofcourse has it's place, but I will try my best to explane the power fade and how to use it to kick major ass.

Have you ever seen tiger tee off with a 2-iron? He hits it 260-275 while he normally plays his 2-iron around 235-240. The way he gets so much extra yardage is using the same principal found in the power fade.

When he sets up he leaves the face wide open on the Iron and hits it as hard as he can, trying to hook it. Effectively giving him a monster 2-iron.

Now to the power fade. A pro never fades the ball the way most weekend golfers do unless they need to really slice it. An amateur aims left, points the clubhead at the target and swings a bit out to in trying to spin it more even though they set up to make a normal swing, just along a different path. Killing distance and accuracy and this also leads to the occasional pull/hook.

A pro on the other hand aims a little further left than his amateur friend and aims the clubface at the target. Now instead of try to fade it (Cutting across it or flicking your hands) he just swings aggressively with a draw swing, though still creating a slight fade because his setting up with the club open. This shot goes forever because he approached the ball from the inside and from a more shallow angle.

Go out and try this with a 5 or 6 iron. Hit your normal fade first and then set up a bit further left of the target and swing with that nice draw swing. Since the clubface is open and you are releasing fully, hitting hard, letting your body out race you a bit you will never be able to hit it left, and it will fly forever!

I will try and post a video on my blog soon that will explain the power fade in more detail.
Thanks Drifterland. This was helpful, I'll give it a try. I like the idea of being able to swing hard and free and not fear the left side of the course.
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post #23 of 92
9/2/09 at 10:16am

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

I've read many say you should hold off the release on this shot, is this right, or should the release through the ball be as with any regular shot, like a draw? Wouldn't holding off the release lose you some of the distance you are trying to achieve with this shot?
Since the clubface is aimed at the target, holding off the release sounds to me like it would make the ball go too far right.
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post #24 of 92
9/2/09 at 12:14pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Good tip. Went out last night in the yard, had a few found balls to shot into the woods. I did as the poster above said, I swung hard and a 5 yard fade. I need to work on the range but I really like this shot.

Thanks!!
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post #25 of 92
9/2/09 at 1:40pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
I've read many say you should hold off the release on this shot, is this right, or should the release through the ball be as with any regular shot, like a draw? Wouldn't holding off the release lose you some of the distance you are trying to achieve with this shot?
Since the clubface is aimed at the target, holding off the release sounds to me like it would make the ball go too far right.
Release normally, you don't want to hold off. Like you said it will kill your distance, and that is exactly why we aim the face at the target, so we don't have to sacrifice distance.
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post #26 of 92
9/2/09 at 1:52pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Great advice, and it really helped to jog my memory. My natural ball flight is right to left, but has turned into a pretty nasty hook over the past year and I'm having more trouble controlling it lately.

Earlier this year while FL I had one of my best driving rounds I ever had. Was tired of hitting hooks so I opened up my stance, layed the face open a little and then just swung aggressively. I was pounding these tight little fades all day long.

Since then I've been trying recpature that with almost no success. But I'm pretty sure I've been doing a "fade swing" which either makes me blow it way out to the right, or sometimes even hook the ball.

This helped me to remember that all I did that day was open up my stance and the clubface and then just swing as I normally would with no thoughts of manipulating the swing path.

Can't wait to go out and work on this.
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post #27 of 92
9/2/09 at 1:54pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

It is essentially an intential push.
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post #28 of 92
9/2/09 at 2:03pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Basically
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post #29 of 92
9/2/09 at 4:00pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Thanks for explaining the difference between swings Driterland. This is very helpful because I've always tried to use the outside to in swing path to create the fade and felt that part of my finish plays a role in the result of the shot. With the driver, I like to let loose with the swing and hit the ball and have a different swing compared to my iron swing due to the weight of the clubs. My swing speed average is around 105, I can peak out higher, but that's when I get to the point where I can't hold my finish for a few seconds. After reading the 'how hard do you swing' thread, I tried to slow down my swing a little bit yesterday at the range, but had a very hard time doing it. My tempo was horrid.
I'll have to give this a try at the range.
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post #30 of 92
9/14/09 at 10:58pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

I gave this a try as well, but opening up my burner driver's face felt quite awkward to say the least.....

The weight of the club just felt off, and all my shots took off down my body line but never came back....

Sounds easy in theory but its quite hard to pull off!

Jim
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post #31 of 92
9/15/09 at 6:32am

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Originally Posted by Leftygolfer View Post
It is essentially an intential push.
A push goes straight to the right. A fade starts left and then turns left. The degree of which is determined by the golfer.
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post #32 of 92
9/15/09 at 7:14am

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Originally Posted by enduro View Post
A push goes straight to the right. A fade starts left and then turns left. The degree of which is determined by the golfer.
Push fade then. You set up to push the ball right, but the clubface and alignment create a fade. You are pushing it right from the alignment of the body.
If you hit this shot with the body aligned to the target, you'd push fade it to the right.
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post #33 of 92
9/15/09 at 4:29pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
Push fade then. You set up to push the ball right, but the clubface and alignment create a fade. You are pushing it right from the alignment of the body.
If you hit this shot with the body aligned to the target, you'd push fade it to the right.
Exactly! That guy above you needs to read my earlier explanation.
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post #34 of 92
9/15/09 at 5:12pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
Push fade then. You set up to push the ball right, but the clubface and alignment create a fade. You are pushing it right from the alignment of the body.
If you hit this shot with the body aligned to the target, you'd push fade it to the right.
Yeah,...I tend to avoid that shot.
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post #35 of 92
9/15/09 at 5:26pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Swinging from the inside is preferable, and the reason you hit it right is the open clubface. With a shut clubface you'd hit a draw.
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post #36 of 92
9/16/09 at 8:51pm

Re: How do you hit a power fade?

Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
Push fade then. You set up to push the ball right, but the clubface and alignment create a fade. You are pushing it right from the alignment of the body.
If you hit this shot with the body aligned to the target, you'd push fade it to the right.
I was doing this at the range and thought I was doing the whole power fade shot wrong because of the follow on fade. Thx for clearing that up.
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