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jdub Established Member

jdub

I am looking at a set of clubs and I can only find them in graphite stiff

do many people age 20-30 play with graphite?

I like the solid feel of graphite and I seem fairly accurate, what are your opinions

4dx hybrid Graphite Irons
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colin007 Incredible Member

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um, i really dont see too many younger players using graphite, but that really doesnt mean anything. it used to be (or so i was told) that steel tends to be more accurate. but then again, i have no proof of this.

Colin P.

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jdub Established Member

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I figured since I can only find the clubs in graphite flex or stiff... go with stiff

I should be fine right? its a nickent 4dx graphite

4dx hybrid Graphite Irons
3-4 Hybrid
Pipe Putter
Titleist Pro V1...I lose enough of em
Revolver Pro 440sz

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I am looking at a set of clubs and I can only find them in graphite stiff

What kind of clubs are you looking at?
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I hate graphite shafts in irons. And no, I don't see anyone under 70 play with them.

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What kind of clubs are you looking at?

nickent 4dx cb hybrid set

the set I was is normaly 800 dollars for graphite or 699 for steel I found em for 250 for graphite... but I cannot find steel my main concern would be shanking or breaking a shaft

4dx hybrid Graphite Irons
3-4 Hybrid
Pipe Putter
Titleist Pro V1...I lose enough of em
Revolver Pro 440sz

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jdub Established Member

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I just bought the stiff shaft graphite 4dx



really is a nice set of clubs...

4dx hybrid Graphite Irons
3-4 Hybrid
Pipe Putter
Titleist Pro V1...I lose enough of em
Revolver Pro 440sz

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Where's the Cart Girl? Well Established Member

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If they end up sucking, have them reshafted. I don't think there's any rules against changing graphite and steel, but I honestly don't know.

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3-wood: Taylormade R7 st (15*)
5-wood: Titleist 909 F2(18.5*)Irons: Taylormade RAC TP MB; Project-X 6.0 (3-PW)Wedges: Vokey Spin-Milled 52.08 Vokey Spin-Milled 58.12Putter: Odyssey White Hot Tour #1 (33")Ball: Titleist ProV1

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only have graphite in my driver, everything else is Steel

Ditto here. I used to have a factory graphite shaft in my 3wood, but I changed it out to a steel shaft at the start of this season. I would say I maybe lost a bit of yardage with it, but I hit it WAY more accurate.

I think the most common "school of thought" would be that graphite = distance, steel = accuracy. But nothing ever works universally... I agree w/ someone up there, you don't see many players 20-30 or even older playing with graphite irons. But IMHO as long as they aren't too weak for your swing there shouldn't be too much of an issue.

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I hate graphite shafts in irons. And no, I don't see anyone under 70 play with them.

You "hate" graphite shafts? A little over the top, don't you think? If you are ever in North Carolina, I can introduce you to a number of low handicap players, way under 70, with graphite shafted irons.

To the OP, if you like the clubs, and hit them well, don't let the graphite shafts deter you. Graphite has come a long, long way since some of these notions of accuracy, and age were started. Good graphite shafts are more accurate than 99% of the golfers swinging them.

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:cobra: Baffler TWS 23 hy
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plugged Dedicated Member

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You "hate" graphite shafts?

Yes, I do.

To be fair, I haven't tested them in probably ten years. But my statement on elderly men using them is true. I have never seen a young man using graphite shafts.

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Yes, I do.

I had a graphite shafted iron set 12 years ago, and didn't like them, but I hit a set of graphite shafted CCI's last week, and they were great. I would have to say the graphite technology has changed a lot in between 10 years ago and now, and the new graphite shafts are a lot better than they used to be.

I hit the graphite shafts a lot better than the crappy uniflex steel shafts that came in my X22's, that's for sure. I'm probably having a set of Graphalloy shafts put in my irons next week to get rid of the uniflex, in fact.
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I played golf with a very slender, fit 64-year-old who had retired last summer.

He plays 2-3 times a week, works on his game and had gone from a 23 HDCP down to a 4. Relies on a very smooth, tempo swing and clubs shafted with light/senior flex graphites - 45 grams. Only problem: When he really smacked one, he hooked it badly. Both his double bogies came from ripping hooks during a hole.

He admitted that hooks are a downside of the whippy graphites. (Still, he played 4-over from the middle tees that day).

I love graphites on my driver and metal woods, but they just feel funny on irons - especially wedges.

Also, graphites had some initial popularity because they were easier on the joints and tendons than metal shafts (a consideration for us people over 50). True Temper now offers shafts with sensicore, and Titleist and Ping have some iron models with rubber inserts in the back of the clubhead.

Anybody that works at a golf shop: Is sensicore and rubber strips cutting into graphite shaft popularity in irons?

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Everardo Great Member

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For one, shopping for clubs by stiff graphite vs regular steel isn't a comparison. If you are fitted for a stiff flex then use a stiff flex but don't let people talk you into adjusting your flex based on material, make sense?

Graphite offers great damping properties especially for people suffering from tendonitis and such. A past study showed that golfers are still playing a shaft too stiff and heavy for them (which could be another topic)

Another great thing about graphite is that the quality has become far superior in recent years (hence the higher cost) and allows the manufactures the ability to manipulate weight, balance points, kick points, tip sections, etc far more than with steel. With steel you can control a lot of that with the steps in the shaft however not as easily as with graphite, creating a truer matched set.

I don't suffer from tendonitis but I've been curious about graphite shafts in irons so I've built several demo clubs (and a complete set) to see how graphite shafts compare to my steel shafts and in many head-to-head tests both on the course and with a launch monitor a properly fitted set regarless of material provided great results.

Like many products there is poor, good and great quality. Graphite will cost more than steel when matched with equal quality.

Common myths associated with graphite irons shafts
  • Graphite shafts are for old people - Not True, as mentioned above graphite shafts in irons offer many advantages when compared to steel
  • All graphite iron shafts are cheap quality - Not True, like steel shafts, they are offered in a wide array of quality. This statement came about because golf club manufacturers will use cheaper quality shafts inorder to save cost and profit margins
  • Graphite shafts are not as accurate as irons - Not True, if you were properly fitted this wouldn't be an issue.
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I tried a number of clubs at demo day. My favorite iron was a Cobra S2 which I discovered had a graphite stiff shaft. I have steel uniflex irons and was surprised when I discovered the Cobra's were graphite. I hit the same club in a steel shaft and still liked the graphite better. Anyone have experience moving from steel to graphite irons?
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Im 22, 6'3 275lbs, and I use graphite shafts. I'm doing ok with them, but when I bought them I didnt know they were incorrect for my swing. Until I can afford to get new irons, and get fitted, they will just have to work.

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