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Poll Results: Links Or Parkland?

 
  • 37% (25)
    Links
  • 48% (32)
    Parkland
  • 13% (9)
    Not Sure
66 Total Votes  
post #37 of 67
11/12/09 at 12:10am

Re: Links Or Parkland?

yup... you were absolutely right... that was a long post... lol
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post #38 of 67
11/12/09 at 1:07pm

Re: Links Or Parkland?

Originally Posted by James_Black View Post
Which do you prefer to play on?

Links are more challenging but if I had to choose I'd pick parkland golf.
More challenging? How do you mean? Parkland can be very hard depending on course design. Different challenges...yes. Harder....not necessarily.

Originally Posted by SQ Bimmer View Post
Sorry for using a different adjective than you, but based off of your description, I would say we are talking about similar turf conditions and that I am not confused at all.

And I don't think all links courses have to be seaside. We have a lot of sand and a lot of wind in select parts of this state.
Sand != links golf. At least not by literal definition. I'd happily equate an inland course made in the style of an old links on the same soil as a links...but not everyone will .

Originally Posted by sabram View Post
As has been indicated by a few previous posters, unless they've been to the UK or Ireland, most Americans have never played a links course and many of them don't know what a links is....//.....ground like a pinball by the heaving land is the essence of links golf.
It was a VERY long post but much appreciated.


Links is essentially what the name implies. A piece of land (usually reclaimed from the sea) which "links" the coast to more cultivated/residential land.
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post #39 of 67
11/12/09 at 2:21pm

Re: Links Or Parkland?

I voted not sure. I have never played on a true links course so I don't know how I would like it.
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post #40 of 67
11/12/09 at 3:43pm
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Re: Links Or Parkland?

Originally Posted by misty_mountainhop View Post
More challenging? How do you mean? Parkland can be very hard depending on course design. Different challenges...yes. Harder....not necessarily.
A links course on a windy, wet day is more challenging than any parkland course.

Think about the Open.
When it's windy the pro's are lucky to shoot under par.
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post #41 of 67
11/12/09 at 4:42pm

Re: Links Or Parkland?

A links course on a windy, wet day is more challenging than any parkland course.

Think about the Open.
When it's windy the pro's are lucky to shoot under par.
Well, obviously we're moving far away from preference when we're now talking about difficulty.

That said, if we asked a pro golfer whether he would rather play the toughest British Open layout on the toughest of days or play the toughest of U.S. Open set up to be murderous but play it on a perfect day with no wind ... he'll take The British Open loop in a heartbeat. Don't think so? Winged Foot '74

Link-styled courses need to rely on the wind to put bite in the course. At parkland courses they need only put the tees at the tips, lengthen the rough and speed up the greens. Then, courses that are already tough just the way the members play it become a blood bath. There were plenty of pros that were 30 over after only two rounds at the '74 U.S. Open.
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post #42 of 67
11/12/09 at 5:03pm
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Re: Links Or Parkland?

Originally Posted by ctyankee View Post
Well, obviously we're moving far away from preference when we're now talking about difficulty.

That said, if we asked a pro golfer whether he would rather play the toughest British Open layout on the toughest of days or play the toughest of U.S. Open set up to be murderous but play it on a perfect day with no wind ... he'll take The British Open loop in a heartbeat. Don't think so? Winged Foot '74

Link-styled courses need to rely on the wind to put bite in the course. At parkland courses they need only put the tees at the tips, lengthen the rough and speed up the greens. Then, courses that are already tough just the way the members play it become a blood bath. There were plenty of pros that were 30 over after only two rounds at the '74 U.S. Open.
U.S open takes it to extremes though.
In general a links course is tougher.

I see your point but I'd prefer to have a long tough set up than having to play in high winds on a links course.

Link-styled courses need to rely on the wind to put bite in the course.
Most of the time they are windy.


I'd choose the links course over a U.S open layout though If I had to pick the easier.
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post #43 of 67
11/13/09 at 7:51am

Re: Links Or Parkland?

Originally Posted by James_Black View Post
A links course on a windy, wet day is more challenging than any parkland course.

Think about the Open.
When it's windy the pro's are lucky to shoot under par.
It patently is not, at least not necessarily. There is much to do with the course set up so you cannot equate them in this way.

Originally Posted by ctyankee View Post
Well, obviously we're moving far away from preference when we're now talking about difficulty.

That said, if we asked a pro golfer whether he would rather play the toughest British Open layout on the toughest of days or play the toughest of U.S. Open set up to be murderous but play it on a perfect day with no wind ... he'll take The British Open loop in a heartbeat. Don't think so? Winged Foot '74

Link-styled courses need to rely on the wind to put bite in the course. At parkland courses they need only put the tees at the tips, lengthen the rough and speed up the greens. Then, courses that are already tough just the way the members play it become a blood bath. There were plenty of pros that were 30 over after only two rounds at the '74 U.S. Open.
I doubt it. Can I hear you say Carnoustie '99 - winning score +6?
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post #44 of 67
11/13/09 at 1:33pm

Re: Links Or Parkland?

iacas has it right about the US courses not being "true" links courses for the most part. Since I've never played on a real links course, I voted for parkland, as - another poster noted - "its purrrdy". Love the walk in the country.
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post #45 of 67
11/13/09 at 1:49pm

Re: Links Or Parkland?

Originally Posted by misty_mountainhop View Post
I doubt it. Can I hear you say Carnoustie '99 - winning score +6?
I can but I prefer to say Winged Foot '74 - winning score +7.

They don't call it the 'Massacre at Winged Foot' for nothing. When they write a book about Carnoustie '99, let us know. ;) Keep in mind that you made the CUT at Winged Foot if you shot +35 over par the first two days ... 'nuff said?

Here's an article about it with some great quotes from those that were there.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...g=content;col1
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post #46 of 67
11/14/09 at 3:38am

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Originally Posted by ctyankee View Post
Well, obviously we're moving far away from preference when we're now talking about difficulty.

That said, if we asked a pro golfer whether he would rather play the toughest British Open layout on the toughest of days or play the toughest of U.S. Open set up to be murderous but play it on a perfect day with no wind ... he'll take The British Open loop in a heartbeat. Don't think so? Winged Foot '74

Link-styled courses need to rely on the wind to put bite in the course. At parkland courses they need only put the tees at the tips, lengthen the rough and speed up the greens. Then, courses that are already tough just the way the members play it become a blood bath. There were plenty of pros that were 30 over after only two rounds at the '74 U.S. Open.
Two comments

1 - Your speculation as to what another player might choose is just that - speculation.

2 - Most of us play golf for fun so the opinion of someone who plays golf for a living really has no meaning. I don't care what kind of course a tour player might prefer. I believe that the links style of golf has the bigger potential for fun. IMHO
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post #47 of 67
11/15/09 at 12:40am

Re: Links Or Parkland?

I like a links style. Don't have to worry so much about people coming up an adjacent fairway and if you find a ball, it's most likely lost.
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post #48 of 67
11/15/09 at 1:21am

Re: Links Or Parkland?

The Best links courses that i've ever player/seen are on Long Island, NY.

Shinnecock Hills, National Golf Links of America, Long Island National Golf Club, Cherry Creek Golf Links (home to Long Island's only par 6), to name a few.

Winged foot is close to LI too.

Plus there is Bethpage, though that is parkland
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post #49 of 67
11/15/09 at 3:58pm

Re: Links Or Parkland?

Originally Posted by ctyankee View Post
I can but I prefer to say Winged Foot '74 - winning score +7.

They don't call it the 'Massacre at Winged Foot' for nothing. When they write a book about Carnoustie '99, let us know. ;) Keep in mind that you made the CUT at Winged Foot if you shot +35 over par the first two days ... 'nuff said?

Here's an article about it with some great quotes from those that were there.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...g=content;col1
Who cares? If you want a "my dick's bigger than yours" competition, go find someone else.
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post #50 of 67
11/15/09 at 7:07pm

Re: Links Or Parkland?

Originally Posted by misty_mountainhop View Post
Who cares? If you want a "my dick's bigger than yours" competition, go find someone else.
No more like 'put up or shut up.' Apparently, you're doing neither.
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post #51 of 67
11/16/09 at 2:43am

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When you have to trick up a super-long course with knee high rough and greens like a tabletop, it goes beyond tough and becomes unfair.

I've never heard a cavalcade of interviews after a tough day at the British Open where people "hint" at an unplayable course.

I suspect that on a tough links or parkland (or prairie or mountain) course, most golfers on this site would embarass themselves. They'd never admit that though - it's the interweb.
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post #52 of 67
11/21/09 at 2:30pm

Re: Links Or Parkland?

Finally got to play Augusta National last week. It makes my top 2 parkland courses.

That said, I still prefer links over parkland.
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post #53 of 67
11/21/09 at 5:34pm

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I'd have to go with the links style.

It is true. Faced with pros with modern equipment, links courses do rely on on a set of natural defences, the wind being one of them.

I think it was the green keeper at Turnerry who said something along the lines of:

"the prevailing wind is from the East, but it never blows from there"

The strength of the wind is only one part of the equation. The way the wind swirls around is another.
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post #54 of 67
11/22/09 at 12:16am

Re: Links Or Parkland?

This is a really tuff question, I never played United Kingdom so I guess I never played a true links course. That said I've play many links style course from california to the OBX. I really enjoy Links style course and have scored good and bad on them, but I think I'm more comfortable on a Parkland course. I will say I love the look of desert courses but never seem to play them well, probably a lot closer to wind condition in theUnited Kingdom.
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