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post #19 of 353

Re: 250 yards is a respectable carry distance

When you think about the average distances an amateur can hit it, it makes you appreciate what guys like Alvaro Quiros and Bubba Watson can do even more.To be able hit it 320/330/340 is just ridiculous and a testiment to their strenght and technique.My good drives go roughly 230-240, which I'm delighted with considering I live in cold, wet, soggy Ireland.I can't understand the need to exaggerate drives, personally.Are people's ego's and self confidence that fragile?Anyone in the know would realise you're talking complete bull**** and you'd end up making a fool of yourself in the long run anyway.
post #20 of 353

Re: 250 yards is a respectable carry distance

Overestimating distance is a pretty easy thing to do. Last year, I smashed a drive and everyone in my foursome thought I hit it 300 yards. "Wow a 300 yard drive," or "damn that had to be close to 300," etc.

Well, when I got home, google earth confirmed the distance for me: 240 yards.

Whoops.
post #21 of 353

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I'm a horrible golfer, but used to care more about getting way out there off the tee more than anything else (common beginner attitude, I guess). I also picked up a GPS and started measuring my shots, and tracking distances on each club. I have hit exactly 2 drives over 300 yards in the past year. Both were on the same hole, downhill with a hard fairway. Since I've been tracking the distances, I've also started worrying more about putting it in a nice, playable spot from the fairway, instead of just jacking it out there though. It's been an eye opener to say the least. My average right now is 215 yards, that includes all of the horrible shots added in, so counting drives that actually get off the ground, I would say 240 is about my distance.

Last weekend, I completely hammered a ball down the center of the fairway. I was elated, it was the best drive I had hit all day. Outdrove everyone else by 20 yards. I went to measure it, and it was an uphill drive to a plateau with a nice approach shot, and got my heart broken. Measured out 210 yards....I was crushed. But it was uphill.........lol
post #22 of 353

Re: 250 yards is a respectable carry distance

250 carry is very respectable. Its above average i would say. If you can carry a driver 250 and get 10-15 yards of roll out afterwards you can play any lenth of golf course. 260-270 off the tee is all you really need.
post #23 of 353

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If you can FLY it 250 you are a long player. On summer days your good ones will go 270 280. I hit a career driver on a 390 yard hole and had 110 to a front flage in where I could see the pitch mark in front of the ball. It was down-hill down wind 55 degrees.

250 in the air is a big hit. You can play with anyone if you can do that consistantly.
post #24 of 353

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Originally Posted by Leftygolfer View Post
If you can FLY it 250 you are a long player. On summer days your good ones will go 270 280. I hit a career driver on a 390 yard hole and had 110 to a front flage in where I could see the pitch mark in front of the ball. It was down-hill down wind 55 degrees.

250 in the air is a big hit. You can play with anyone if you can do that consistantly.

+1

If you really carry 250, stop right there and work on something else. You'll never need more than that.
post #25 of 353

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i believe most people overestimate their distance because they're only measuring their best shots. if somebody crushes one down the middle they'll measure it at, say 260/270, and from that point on call that their driving distance. in reality, their average distance is closer to 230 or 240 yards. people do this with irons as well, that's why most people come up short. they hit one perfect 8 iron 160 yards to the center of the green and think that every 8 iron will go 160.

i play in a lot of charity tournaments and win long drive 50% of the time. People think i'm consistently hitting the the ball 300+, but usually 275/280 gets the job done. i've hit my fair share of balls over 300 yards, but don't consider that anywhere near my average. there's a lake at my local course that is exactly 265 yards carry to an adjacent tee box. I always try and make it from one tee box to the other, and do so 1 out of 3 times. my claim to fame is: a long drive down the middle leaving <100 yards to the green then proceeding to leave it short. definitely need to work on the wedge play this year.
post #26 of 353

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I think most of us actually think we hit it further than it actually is. I crushed a drive this past Saturday. My partner said you hit that about 275. I knew that would be a long hit for me. So I measured using the yardage markers. I hit it an honest 235. I usually hit about 220 or 225. But then again I'm old.
post #27 of 353

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Longer distance has to be combined with some kind of accuracy. I've got a buddy of mine who consistently drives 20-30 yards more than I do. Where I hit 60% of my FW, he only hits say 30%. If we play a wide open course, I have a hard time beating him. He plays a lot from the adjacent FW. However, if we play a tight course that punishes wild drives. I can beat him handily.
post #28 of 353

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I agree completely, if you're flying it 250, definitely a long hitter. I rarely see what the ball does after landing from a tee shot, but I'd figure 265 wouldn't be out of the norm with rollout, that's solid.

I've been playing a lot of golf and have joined a small league, 265 will easily put you in the hunt on long drive holes from what I've seen.
post #29 of 353

Re: 250 yards is a respectable carry distance

As a high handicapper, this is encouraging to hear. Last summer I was working on my driving consistently (for the first time ever) and at the peek I was hitting my no-name-brand 3-wood 210 yards plus roll 1 out of 4 times, and averaging about 190 yards. (The range I hit at had 50% used balls with a range strip painted on them, so they were mostly normal balls.) Not impressive, but I was pleased with myself. I just couldn't imagine switching to a driver, even a good driver, and gaining an average of more than 20, maybe 30, yards on equally good hits. I know I don't have a fast of swing, but hearing from people with 15 - 20 handicaps claiming to hit the ball 250 on average made me feel that attaining a 20 HCP was a looong way off for me.
post #30 of 353

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If I could get my drives to consistently end at 250 with the occasional 250 carry I would be very happy.
post #31 of 353

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Originally Posted by B-Con View Post
. . . hearing from people with 15 - 20 handicaps claiming to hit the ball 250 on average made me feel that attaining a 20 HCP was a looong way off for me.
Over the years, I've been schooled a few times by people who were "away" on all the par 4s and 5s, and took at least one more club on every par 3. It's who's away on the green that's important - and still being away after your first putt is a downer too. Be consistent at whatever length you are, that is the key.
post #32 of 353

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250 is a big carry.....consistent 250 ball flight with control....that's like heaven

I have actually met quite a few high cappers that can fly the ball 300...usually it's a bigger guy that loves John Daly.....granted, they only hit the fairway about 3 times a round, but when they catch one, holy crap.....early in the season, my better drives are 230+ and straight.....late in the season, my good drives are 260+......don't know if that has more to do with practice/form, the warm air, or the hardness of the fairway
post #33 of 353

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I finally invested in a GPS system late last season and I used it to measure each of my drives. I then logged them on the scorecard. For the three rounds I logged, my driver averaged 210 yards, 210 yard and 234 yards. Now... on the holes I hit the fairway, that was a lot better, but... I didn't hit the fairway very often. Below are the listed yardages on holes I hit the fairway for those three rounds:

249 - 245 - 250
219 - 247 - 257 - 238
197 - 260

Those were using the GolfLogix GPS on iPhone. It claims to be accurate to within 3-5 yards... but I tend to think there's about a 10-15 yard give or take with it... but even still - I think those are decent pokes. However, those are the balls that found the fairway, which means they were hit well (or well enough not to find the woods or water).

Also, those three rounds were the first three in which I used a new driver. I'd been using a TaylorMade R540 for about 5 years and last year, I purchased a Cleveland HiBORE XLS. I'd say there is a yardage difference of almost 20 yards between the two clubs.

Also... this was in late August with dried out fairways. The carry on each of those shots was probably 20 yards less than the actual measured distance.

CY
post #34 of 353

Re: 250 yards is a respectable carry distance

250 yards is pretty long.

I hit the ball 200-210 metres and that's around 230-240 yards.

Distance doesn't really matter as long as you hit shots on target
post #35 of 353

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Originally Posted by Shanks A Million View Post
I would say about 99% of golfers overestimate their distance. Google Earth's range measurement tool is very accurate, usually within one yard.

I have been criticized many times on this forum for insinuating that, perhaps some of the 15 handicaps here don't actually drive the ball 310. Even 250 is not hard to do with range balls if you have the swing speed, but very few do have both the speed and the ability to hit the center of the club face consistently. There's a range near me that uses terrible limited flight balls, and they don't carry anywhere near as far as regular balls, but I can still hit their back fence (240), but not every time, and not on the fly.

I'm not the longest hitter out there, but I do hit it a long way. I am, however, also an honest long hitter. I've been called a short hitter often on the internet because I average about 265. 265 is a very, very good average. That's Brian Gay distance, a guy who won twice last year on the PGA tour. But the mere fact that I'm not delusional enough to actually think I can hit a golf ball 300 yards regularly doesn't make me a short hitter. Indeed, I hit a 48° pitching wedge 130 yards. I do not, however, hit my 9.5° driver 300 yards. That's lunacy. Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods barely average 300, and they have extremely high swing speeds.

So, is 240 a good carry? You bet. I will take 240 carry any day. Have I driven it into a stream 280 from the tee? Yes. Does that mean I average 280? No. Most people I've played with hit their driver around 180-200 in the air, with some roll. If you are driving it 300, on a 6,500 yard course, you're hitting wedges to nearly every par 4, and 3 irons to every par 5.
Of course you are right. My regular group laughs because I know better how far they carry a club, especially after adjustments for conditons, then they do. Because of this several of them have asked me to caddy for them, I only agree to do it if they make the championship. I max my swing speed out at 95, average 92, carry the ball 220 max. You wouldn't believe the number of times I have been told I must average 260. I probably only hit 1/2 dozen drives over 250 all last year. Everyone forgets to adjust of weather, firm fairways, elevation etc. PGA tour average carry range is 260-270, the number of guys on tour who can consistently carry the ball over 300 yards is probably 25 or less.
post #36 of 353

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Originally Posted by allin View Post
...the number of guys on tour who can consistently carry the ball over 300 yards is probably 25 or less.
Because they choose to. I promise you many more can average over 300+ if they wanted. Problem is most can't average 300+ and consistently score well on PGA courses. Especially with the new groove rules this year.
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